***Official Browns Vs. New York Giants Game Day Thread***
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Same big 3 issues: #1.OL.. Nothing gets fixed, till this OL can block for more than 50 yards rushing in 21 attempts again..Pass Protection? 7 more sacks, forcing 2 more QB fumbles,leading to points against again...#2. QB, We get nowhere without a QB..our WR's maybe great if the ball was thrown on time & in stride not behind every receivers & at Dukes feet. Pryor's facial expressions made me laugh all day as he caught 6 for 131 yards. but could have had 10 for over 200 with a QB with any anticipation as Pryor sprinted his ass off all day. Shi$ on McC if you like, but Josh was 25/43 for 322 yards, no picks, 1 TD..The dreaded 3rd down,We Suck again 3 of 14..#3.DB'S-----To the Haden Haters..would you prefer Taylor,D. Williams or Dead Bootie Ba'phoon to cover the #1's? cuz Haden has not allowed 100 yards to S.Smith,Dez,A.Brown or Beckham in last 4 games. Teams other WR's & TE's coverage are a bigger problem than Haden. But book on this FO dumping that $ contract next season ...Bottom line we need to draft high or FA's a QB,OL,CB's & DB's..D front 7 growing up but got to get a sack monster,only 1 again today..
Same big 3 issues: #1.OL.. Nothing gets fixed, till this OL can block for more than 50 yards rushing in 21 attempts again..Pass Protection? 7 more sacks, forcing 2 more QB fumbles,leading to points against again...#2. QB, We get nowhere without a QB..our WR's maybe great if the ball was thrown on time & in stride not behind every receivers & at Dukes feet. Pryor's facial expressions made me laugh all day as he caught 6 for 131 yards. but could have had 10 for over 200 with a QB with any anticipation as Pryor sprinted his ass off all day. Shi$ on McC if you like, but Josh was 25/43 for 322 yards, no picks, 1 TD..The dreaded 3rd down,We Suck again 3 of 14..#3.DB'S-----To the Haden Haters..would you prefer Taylor,D. Williams or Dead Bootie Ba'phoon to cover the #1's? cuz Haden has not allowed 100 yards to S.Smith,Dez,A.Brown or Beckham in last 4 games. Teams other WR's & TE's coverage are a bigger problem than Haden. But book on this FO dumping that $ contract next season ...Bottom line we need to draft high or FA's a QB,OL,CB's & DB's..D front 7 growing up but got to get a sack monster,only 1 again today..
Regarding Josh, 322 yards, and a game killing turnover. May as well have been a pick 6. Be honest- you knew it was coming sooner or later.
I've been pretty hard on Dead Boddie, but he impressed me today, had a pretty decent game.
The defense stepped it up, there was a brief illusion of progress. You can't hang this loss on them. But- nice job Horton putting a linebacker on Beckham near the goal line. Beyond stupid.
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So no tavern today?
So no tavern today?
It needs to be reset sometimes. One of us just needs to to text Stan. PM me or one of the other mods if we forget to check it on a gameday.
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I hate to say it, but we were RIGHT there in this game. What killed us was Pryor getting tackled on that bomb. I'm not BLAMING Pryor of course, but if he JUST slips that tackle somehow, he goes for a 96 yard TD and that defensive TD never happens. It's stuff like that. We simply can't make "the play", and avoid the "awful play". Our defense was hanging. We got hands on footballs. Just couldn't make it happen on offense...and we had LOTS of chances.
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I hate to say it, but we were RIGHT there in this game. What killed us was Pryor getting tackled on that bomb. I'm not BLAMING Pryor of course, but if he JUST slips that tackle somehow, he goes for a 96 yard TD and that defensive TD never happens. It's stuff like that. We simply can't make "the play", and avoid the "awful play". Our defense was hanging. We got hands on footballs. Just couldn't make it happen on offense...and we had LOTS of chances.
I hate to say it, but we were RIGHT there in this game. What killed us was Pryor getting tackled on that bomb. I'm not BLAMING Pryor of course, but if he JUST slips that tackle somehow, he goes for a 96 yard TD and that defensive TD never happens. It's stuff like that. We simply can't make "the play", and avoid the "awful play". Our defense was hanging. We got hands on footballs. Just couldn't make it happen on offense...and we had LOTS of chances.
There were about three or four plays that defined the game, as usual, and they went against us, as usual - Crowell's fumble, McCown's fumble, Pryor not quite being able to break free for the TD - that's 21 points.
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We are unwatchable.
We came in from playing golf right at kickoff. The manager put the Browns/Giants on one of the TV's. I thanked him...and said...I don't know the reason to watch them. Who do I watch? The 37 year old QB? Crowell trying to get past the line of scrimmage? Anybody on our 33rd ranked defense interesting?
There really is no reason to watch us.
No reason to watch? C'mon now.
Yeah, it's a dismal season and most of us fans are bummed out. The key word there is "fans."
We had the ball at midfield, down 14-6. The NYG made a play and scored on a fumble return, basically sealing the game.
This young, undermanned team was actually playing some decent defense today against a veteran top-tier QB. Forgive me,I was into it, despite our offensive problems.
This young, undermanned team
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
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Same big 3 issues: #1.OL.. Nothing gets fixed, till this OL can block for more than 50 yards rushing in 21 attempts again..Pass Protection? 7 more sacks, forcing 2 more QB fumbles,leading to points against again...#2. QB, We get nowhere without a QB..our WR's maybe great if the ball was thrown on time & in stride not behind every receivers & at Dukes feet. Pryor's facial expressions made me laugh all day as he caught 6 for 131 yards. but could have had 10 for over 200 with a QB with any anticipation as Pryor sprinted his ass off all day. Shi$ on McC if you like, but Josh was 25/43 for 322 yards, no picks, 1 TD..The dreaded 3rd down,We Suck again 3 of 14..#3.DB'S-----To the Haden Haters..would you prefer Taylor,D. Williams or Dead Bootie Ba'phoon to cover the #1's? cuz Haden has not allowed 100 yards to S.Smith,Dez,A.Brown or Beckham in last 4 games. Teams other WR's & TE's coverage are a bigger problem than Haden. But book on this FO dumping that $ contract next season ...Bottom line we need to draft high or FA's a QB,OL,CB's & DB's..D front 7 growing up but got to get a sack monster,only 1 again today..
Regarding Josh, 322 yards, and a game killing turnover. May as well have been a pick 6. Be honest- you knew it was coming sooner or later.
I've been pretty hard on Dead Boddie, but he impressed me today, had a pretty decent game.
The defense stepped it up, there was a brief illusion of progress. You can't hang this loss on them. But- nice job Horton putting a linebacker on Beckham near the goal line. Beyond stupid.
I've been pretty hard on Dead Boddie, but he impressed me today, had a pretty decent game.
The defense stepped it up, there was a brief illusion of progress. You can't hang this loss on them. But- nice job Horton putting a linebacker on Beckham near the goal line. Beyond stupid.
And it wasn't just Boddy... I think Cam may have played his best game as a Brown. Not exactly a high bar, but he seemed to be in the hunt for that "honor".
As for Kirksey on OBJ... it's up to the players on the field to adjust (or call a time out, if necessary), if a mismatch presents itself.
I hate to say it, but we were RIGHT there in this game.
Yes, we were...
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This young, undermanned team
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
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see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
#s and 'analytics say this is the worse team in browns history, and they've been around since the 1800s.
bitonio is one guy. where's the depth?
exactly. thank you FO. THE FO is responsible (name any GM) for this team being shit since it's '99 redeux.
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oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
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This young, undermanned team
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
heh heh heh....facking dumb brocolli iq browns mgmt....hope they showed taylor gabriel rip apart the cards defense on the big screen at the stadium on sunday...heh heh heh...fucking dumbass chachi and lamebrane....wonder what halshit is thinking...thanks to him, the falcons have shanny, who is fucking awesome, mack blowing people 5 yds back, and now taylor ripping apart the nfl....heh heh heh....guess we did not need those folks..heh heh heh...
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maybe someday it won't feel like child abuse every time i dress my kid in Browns gear. McCown, Hogan, Kessler, I don't even care at this point. Just would like the Browns to stop embarrassing themselves every week.
Not going to stop anytime soon. Chargers at home is the only shot at 1-15
Not going to stop anytime soon. Chargers at home is the only shot at 1-15
i disagree, i think the bengals are the only chance we have at a win....chargers might still be in the hunt for a playoff spot and if so, rivers won't waste any time beating the shit out of the clowns...
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Hogan stinks
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
we still have robert gimpeth on the bench....you want to talk about a loser....this is where our head jackass coach is...he wanted him so much he was cumming in his pants over the thought...pffffffft...yeah, how dat work out for ya baby huey....
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There's always Terrelle Pryor! But I doubt he will be a Brown next year? He's frustrated and now he's calling out the Coaches and the FO for not drafting an Oline. Yep, Pryor isn't a "yes man" so you can bet he's gone next year. Hope I'm wrong because he really is turning into a stud receiver. I doubt even Odell could put up numbers from the likes of Kessler, McCown, Whitehurst, like Pryor.
He's a real gem and too good for this crap the Browns are dishing out every week!
There's always Terrelle Pryor! But I doubt he will be a Brown next year He's frustrated and now he's calling out the Coaches and the FO for not drafting an Oline. Yep, Pryor isn't a "yes man" so you can bet he's gone next year. Hope I'm wrong because he really is turning into a stud receiver. I doubt even Odell could put up numbers from the likes of Kessler, McCown, Whitehurst, like Pryor.
He's a real gem and too good for this crap the Browns are dishing out every week!
cmon man, we had cleeepsboard jeeeesus for a game...that in itself makes my season...heheheheheeeee....he is a righteous dude and very cool.....
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oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
yeah,,,right...was it dumbass sashi or chachi as i call him and the other lamebrane that got rid of taylor gabriel...the falcons got him just about for free and he is better than any wr we have including pryor...this kid knocked a 250 lb linebacker on his fucking ass sunday let alone blast thru the cards d...this kid, if he plays like he has been playing for the last4-5 weeks could possibly make the probowl...yeah this is history alright again and again and again....
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MKC just tweeted. . .
Confirming #Browns have waived QB Joe Callahan
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oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
homer. homer. homer.
i get the glass half full fan that you are but when do you hold someone accountable? last year, ten years ago or yesterday? 14 picks CAL. 14 picks and people are hanging their hats on 3 guys MAYBE being good enough moving forward.
i'm not BITCHING, i'm stating fact. if it was your macdonalds franchise that was losing money compared to the other 5 in your district and you knew it was because junior can't make the fries correct you just leave him in rotation or do you fire his dumb ass?
14 picks of shit. this coming draft is the make or break of this regime, that's my point. don't like seeing people lose their jobs but when the dollar is the bottom line as it is will most biz owners and your clients are screaming that you are putting out a shit product what do you think is gonna happen?
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see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
If we think Joel Bitonio is the answer go back and watch the early tape from this year.
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I was there.....bitchin about it....
He was our top preseason receiver....and his #'s were equal to all 4 rookies combined.....
And I questioned it and was shot down immediately......toild Higgins and Payton were WAY better...he sucked, etc etc etc...
Look it up.....
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it's easier to be a wr when you have the oline intact, a qb, and other wr's to take away
attention from you.
if he were here, he still wouldn't be a star. Higgins could have been the same thing to them.
if the Falcons had drafted Higgins, and he did the same thing, it would be "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! the stupid
Browns kept Gabriel, and the Falcons got Higgins !"
Maybe Gabriel wanted to go play for a winner, and nobody would trade him. Maybe whining doesn't fix anything.
Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and
win games for the Browns?
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