***Official Browns Vs. New York Giants Game Day Thread***
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This young, undermanned team
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
Karlis Missed -
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
#s and 'analytics say this is the worse team in browns history, and they've been around since the 1800s.
bitonio is one guy. where's the depth?
exactly. thank you FO. THE FO is responsible (name any GM) for this team being shit since it's '99 redeux.
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oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
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This young, undermanned team
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
heh heh heh....facking dumb brocolli iq browns mgmt....hope they showed taylor gabriel rip apart the cards defense on the big screen at the stadium on sunday...heh heh heh...fucking dumbass chachi and lamebrane....wonder what halshit is thinking...thanks to him, the falcons have shanny, who is fucking awesome, mack blowing people 5 yds back, and now taylor ripping apart the nfl....heh heh heh....guess we did not need those folks..heh heh heh...
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maybe someday it won't feel like child abuse every time i dress my kid in Browns gear. McCown, Hogan, Kessler, I don't even care at this point. Just would like the Browns to stop embarrassing themselves every week.
Not going to stop anytime soon. Chargers at home is the only shot at 1-15
Not going to stop anytime soon. Chargers at home is the only shot at 1-15
i disagree, i think the bengals are the only chance we have at a win....chargers might still be in the hunt for a playoff spot and if so, rivers won't waste any time beating the shit out of the clowns...
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Hogan stinks
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
we still have robert gimpeth on the bench....you want to talk about a loser....this is where our head jackass coach is...he wanted him so much he was cumming in his pants over the thought...pffffffft...yeah, how dat work out for ya baby huey....
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There's always Terrelle Pryor! But I doubt he will be a Brown next year? He's frustrated and now he's calling out the Coaches and the FO for not drafting an Oline. Yep, Pryor isn't a "yes man" so you can bet he's gone next year. Hope I'm wrong because he really is turning into a stud receiver. I doubt even Odell could put up numbers from the likes of Kessler, McCown, Whitehurst, like Pryor.
He's a real gem and too good for this crap the Browns are dishing out every week!
There's always Terrelle Pryor! But I doubt he will be a Brown next year He's frustrated and now he's calling out the Coaches and the FO for not drafting an Oline. Yep, Pryor isn't a "yes man" so you can bet he's gone next year. Hope I'm wrong because he really is turning into a stud receiver. I doubt even Odell could put up numbers from the likes of Kessler, McCown, Whitehurst, like Pryor.
He's a real gem and too good for this crap the Browns are dishing out every week!
cmon man, we had cleeepsboard jeeeesus for a game...that in itself makes my season...heheheheheeeee....he is a righteous dude and very cool.....
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oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
yeah,,,right...was it dumbass sashi or chachi as i call him and the other lamebrane that got rid of taylor gabriel...the falcons got him just about for free and he is better than any wr we have including pryor...this kid knocked a 250 lb linebacker on his fucking ass sunday let alone blast thru the cards d...this kid, if he plays like he has been playing for the last4-5 weeks could possibly make the probowl...yeah this is history alright again and again and again....
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MKC just tweeted. . .
Confirming #Browns have waived QB Joe Callahan
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oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
oh, baloney. THIS FO has not been around for years. "The Browns" have changed
fo's, changed coaches, changed qb.s..
it's the stupid drafting in previous years, most of them, btw, that failed to build the Browns into a winning contender
every year.
Now, the Browns are on the right path, and it helps that a few players were great picks. At least stop the nonsense blaming
until Hue and co, and the fo has a second turn at the draft.
I get the venting about the past, but putting on the current Browns org is really dumb.
The Browns have been a jigsaw puzzle, with different puzzles' pieces. Just impossible.
Now, I see them as having only the right pieces on the board, and the picture is half? done.
You just refuse to go rabid hater until you see the rest of the jigsaw puzzle put together.
I mean, dammit, the Browns pitiful history for years is HISTORY. NOT THE CURRENT AFFAIRS.
They started off doing the right things. It doesn't happen in just one year - but it never happens
when you start off again and again and again doing the wrong things. THAT is the past.
homer. homer. homer.
i get the glass half full fan that you are but when do you hold someone accountable? last year, ten years ago or yesterday? 14 picks CAL. 14 picks and people are hanging their hats on 3 guys MAYBE being good enough moving forward.
i'm not BITCHING, i'm stating fact. if it was your macdonalds franchise that was losing money compared to the other 5 in your district and you knew it was because junior can't make the fries correct you just leave him in rotation or do you fire his dumb ass?
14 picks of shit. this coming draft is the make or break of this regime, that's my point. don't like seeing people lose their jobs but when the dollar is the bottom line as it is will most biz owners and your clients are screaming that you are putting out a shit product what do you think is gonna happen?
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see this is where i have problems with this fan thinking.
:THIS YOUNG AND UNDERMANNED TEAM."
uhhhhh, who's fault is that? did the nfl just fly over cleveland and baby drop shit into the locker room or did someone in the front office pick and choose this young and undermanned team?
c'mon man is right. not every team that sucks and brings in a new regime blows for an 0-16 season. the browns have become complacent with being the doormat of the afc. and fans that keep saying it's 3 years down the road. it's a 5 year plan.
go fuck yourselves. the giants fans i watched the game with yesterday could care less about a time frame for us. they won. we suck. next!
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
It is what it is. Yeah, the front office is responsible, I totally get that.
They aren't responsible for Bitonio going down, basically killing our O line. They are responsible, or maybe Hue, in trotting out Cam Erving at center every week.
My fan thinking isn't wrong. Believe me, I'm not happy, once again our tailgate was better than rhe game.
Watching this as long as I have, this is as bad as 1975, & 1990. Probably 2000 also.
If we think Joel Bitonio is the answer go back and watch the early tape from this year.
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I was there.....bitchin about it....
He was our top preseason receiver....and his #'s were equal to all 4 rookies combined.....
And I questioned it and was shot down immediately......toild Higgins and Payton were WAY better...he sucked, etc etc etc...
Look it up.....
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it's easier to be a wr when you have the oline intact, a qb, and other wr's to take away
attention from you.
if he were here, he still wouldn't be a star. Higgins could have been the same thing to them.
if the Falcons had drafted Higgins, and he did the same thing, it would be "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! the stupid
Browns kept Gabriel, and the Falcons got Higgins !"
Maybe Gabriel wanted to go play for a winner, and nobody would trade him. Maybe whining doesn't fix anything.
Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and
win games for the Browns?
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it's easier to be a wr when you have the oline intact, a qb, and other wr's to take away
attention from you.
if he were here, he still wouldn't be a star. Higgins could have been the same thing to them.
if the Falcons had drafted Higgins, and he did the same thing, it would be "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! the stupid
Browns kept Gabriel, and the Falcons got Higgins !"
Maybe Gabriel wanted to go play for a winner, and nobody would trade him. Maybe whining doesn't fix anything.
Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and
win games for the Browns?
He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and
win games for the Browns?
Compared to the 4 that were just drafted, Cal?......cause his rookie year was more than those 4 will have combined....
and, this preseason he had as many catches as all 4 combined(again)....
So, it's not about whether he's a superstar Cal....it's about whether he deserved to make this team over those that beat him out....(he did)....he earned it on the field.....plain and simple....
But....as we all know.....you will offer zero critical thinking to anything this team...coach or FO does.....it's all perrfect...i get it...
Oh...and Ill add he was a very good KR and PR.....last year we avg'd 25 yrds per kick return....this year? just 17....(and we have the same terrible drop in our punt return avgs...coulda helped there too)
So...yeah....smart move cutting the top producing receiver from camp and one of the only people who could also return....fecking brilliant....(Louis is tearing it up....aint he?....)
Enjoy sure hands Payton(the one who shouldve been cut)....and his 1 catch and zero yards, zero TDs and zero returns....
So.....sorry Tour...said it anyway.....
And its not that Im mad about Gabriel, per se.....he's just "another" example of what I see as a bad move that seems so obvious, yet no one seems to care or worry....... and all just say "we're rebuilding"...blah blah blah.....as if "rebuilding" means anything and everything is ok.....
Well be fine w/o Gabe....just need to point to bad choice after bad choice.....wrong players picked/starting/cut/etc....keeps happening...
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he's a veteran. The others are rookies. I never said perfect, I said on the right track.
but as a rookie, I'm sure you knew he was a star.
"He made his NFL debut on September 7, 2014 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, recording one reception and 5 receiving yards."
Big whoopee. I got yer critical thinking right here, you're just critically flinching.
Look who he's playing with, Mudly.
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Unit: Offense Defense Special TeamsPOS FIRST SECOND THIRD OTHER WR Julio Jones Justin Hardy Eric Weems LT Jake Matthews Tom Compton LG Andy Levitre Ben Garland C Alex Mack Ben Garland RG Chris Chester Wes Schweitzer RT Ryan Schraeder Tom Compton TE Austin Hooper Levine Toilolo Joshua Perkins WR Mohamed Sanu Taylor Gabriel Aldrick Robinson QB Matt Ryan Matt Schaub RB Devonta Freeman Tevin Coleman Terron Ward
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and, you know where Atlanta is in rushing touchdowns?
fifth. That helps the passing game too.
1 Buffalo 327 1731 5.3 75 20 157.4 10 2 2
Dallas 363 1730 4.8 60 19 157.3 5 1 3
Carolina 306 1204 3.9 47 14 109.5 3 3 4
New England 319 1274 4.0 44 13 115.8 7 2 5
Atlanta 279 1192 4.3 48 12 108.4 1 0
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingTouchdowns
that's Mud on the Tires.
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he's a veteran. The others are rookies. I never said perfect, I said on the right track.
but as a rookie, I'm sure you knew he was a star.
"He made his NFL debut on September 7, 2014 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, recording one reception and 5 receiving yards."
Big whoopee. I got yer critical thinking right here, you're just critically flinching.
Look who he's playing with, Mudly.
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Unit: Offense Defense Special TeamsPOS FIRST SECOND THIRD OTHER WR Julio Jones Justin Hardy Eric Weems LT Jake Matthews Tom Compton LG Andy Levitre Ben Garland C Alex Mack Ben Garland RG Chris Chester Wes Schweitzer RT Ryan Schraeder Tom Compton TE Austin Hooper Levine Toilolo Joshua Perkins WR Mohamed Sanu Taylor Gabriel Aldrick Robinson QB Matt Ryan Matt Schaub RB Devonta Freeman Tevin Coleman Terron Ward
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he's a veteran. The others are rookies. I never said perfect, I said on the right track.
but as a rookie, I'm sure you knew he was a star.
Big whoopee. I got yer critical thinking right here, you're just critically flinching.
Look who he's playing with, Mudly.
He did better as a Brown, than he is doing in Atlanta Cal.....
As a rookie, he had 36 catches for 621 yards and, while we didnt call him a star, we did call him a great find! (not hearing that about anybody now tho)
so...his rookie year was better than all 4 rookies we drafted this year.....and he wasnt even drafted or a starter....he did it in a backup role...
Has nothing to do with "who he's playing with"......
Annd Cal....Im still waiting for that big improvement you promised me since preseason....the gelling....and the "fun to watch".....and all those guaranteed wins....
Still waiting....and until it happens....nothing else matters....
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