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  • Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

  • Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

    @vagitron said:

    Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

  • @vagitron said:

    Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

    @miktoxic said:

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

    Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.

    Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?

  • Fire RG3? After one outing?

    Could be a new low in Browns' fandom...

  • RG3 suks. Not after one outing, after this failed attempt of Hue bringing him back. Him and Hue have to go.

  • Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

  • @miktoxic said:

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

    Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.

    Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?

    @vagitron said:

    Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.

    Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?

    i haven't enjoyed anything cleveland browns since the 80s bro. i mean i love the team but i haven't been giddy about them since kosar was the QB. sure there have been glimpses of some great talent that could've blossomed if given the right situation but didn't because of poor management and decision making........from a multitude of regimes sence the reinstatement in '99.

    you complain about 'don't fire hue' well i agree, but i'll also fall back on my BIGGEST gripe about how things go down here and my feloow fans: who says who get's the right to go forward as a regime (in a fans' mind)? sure everyone can bitch and complain given their view which is completely self centered. hated holmgren. liked mangini. hated chud. liked davis. liked pettine. that's my opinion. so why wouldn't you have given pettine or mangini or butch davis the courtesy of 3 years to turn it around considering they finally got their guys in place and blah blah blah? oh no, but let's give hue the WHOLE 5 years because why? answer that batman. just let me know what he has done? he and the FO to make me believe like 'yeah, we got the right guy!' when i believed it in so many other coaches and staffs that you and others thought sucked BUT we will never know how good or bad they could have been because they got canned because of their record.

    hue jackson. 0 and 13 and given his past HC experience he's a whopping 8-13 with another 3 losses on the way. so we got a .500 coach. whoopdeefuckingdoo!! and i'm supposed to feel optimistic going forward? why? cuz there's smart people in the FO? hell there were smart people in charge of Enron.

    yeah i'll give this squad a chance. my chances go out the window after next year's draft. period.

  • Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

    Right...

  • Right, 0-13 soon too be 0-16 coaches deserve another go...

  • Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

    Yeah, that type of shit looks real good for non board members.

  • We can't shift direction again, it's way too soon. Hue knows football, he knows the league. Depth and injuries derailed this season.

    Look, the analytic guys will (hopefully) analyze their plan, and adjust. They'll have at least 4 of the top 65 picks. DO NOT TRADE DOWN.

    As bad as 0-13 is, if, yes IF, they get 4 or 5 solid draftees, they'll be like Indy or Houston...not spectacular, but close to a contender.

  • the Browns have a lack of talent. forget the dumping on the head coach all the time.

    I think, after seeing how RGiii has done the same things with the Redskins... that he doesn't see

    the field much. I give up on thinking he has "it". He just doesn't. Too bad. His decision-making

    is atrocious often, his accuracy sucks bigtime on short and intermediate throws. The Browns have to trade

    for one (Garopollo, of course, the guy a lot of us wanted in the draft), or draft one... Trubisky.

    I've just decided that RGiii has reached his level of incompetence.

    The Browns need to draft a KR, because Louis? seems like he wants to run sideways to not get hit.

    Secondary needs fixed. Doesn't work. Probably lack of talent, maybe Horton hears a Who,

    and watching the linebackers today, after watching Alambama play Florida... the Browns desperately

    need a dynamic Reuben Foster. He's amazing - explosive, fast, outsanding instincts, makes plays from sideline

    to sideline, ... he and Zach Cunningham would be outstanding additions to the Browns' defense. Foster

    is outstanding. If only Foster would reach the second round... for just one pick by the Browns.

    Maybe the problem is, that pass coverage works on Horton's paper, but not in real football on the field.

    TE's get wide open like I can't believe, gaps are huge, coverage so much of the time is behind the receiver..

    it just doesn't work most of the time. Too bad. The upside, though, is that the Browns do NOT GIVE UP, not

    for one second.

    and the refs. that horsecollar tackle vs Coleman nearly wasn't called. WTF ?

  • and, the Browns are going in the right direction, they just lack talent. You don't fire coaches just because

    they aren't winning their first year. You only fire coaches when they are going in the wrong direction, and

    have lost the team.

    Anything else is a dumb emotional knee jerk.

  • Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

    @vagitron said:

    Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

    This team is so deficient in talent it's ridiculous. The FO made some serious mistakes letting a few of the talented guys walk.

    @tour2ma said:

    Fire RG3? After one outing?

    Could be a new low in Browns' fandom...

    Make that 1-3\4 Tour. Plus the preseason.

  • @vagitron said:

    Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.

    Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

    @miktoxic said:

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

    Bitterness is really bad for you.

  • Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.

    Are you saying that Jimmy Harlem doesn't like white people?

    Z

  • Look at what they've given Hue to work with. I can't believe some of you guys are calling for his head when he hardly has any players. Most of these guys wouldn't be on practice squads elsewhere.

  • @miktoxic said:

    i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?

    GTFO.

    Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.

    Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?

    @vagitron said:

    Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.

    Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?

    If it is one thing Vag knows about its suckitude. For sure.

  • For those that watched the last game, the announcers mentioned that they had been in Berea and that the morale and spirit of everyone there was not that of an 0-12 football team. I've heard similar comments from other media people and the players themselves. Everyone is positive because they feel like they are building something and more importantly because Hue Jackson keeps a positive spirit and gets more determined with every loss. He doesn't give up like Pettine and Co. did.

    Nothing more than that convinces me that Hue is the right coach for this job. We were never going to win a lot of games this year. Bill Bilichick maybe squeezes a couple out of this roster. The real barometer for Hue's success isn't wins and losses this year, but if he can steer the ship through the shit storm without losing his team's respect, and it's pretty clear that he's doing just that.

    Some Browns fans are so beaten down by the losing that they act like they want more of the same pain because that's what you're asking for when you call for Hue Jackson to be fired, and if Hue gets fired because of all your clamoring, you'll get what you deserve.

  • ^ Post of the Year nominee...