Who takes the fall?
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Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.
Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.
Right...
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Right, 0-13 soon too be 0-16 coaches deserve another go...
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Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.
Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.
Yeah, that type of shit looks real good for non board members.
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We can't shift direction again, it's way too soon. Hue knows football, he knows the league. Depth and injuries derailed this season.
Look, the analytic guys will (hopefully) analyze their plan, and adjust. They'll have at least 4 of the top 65 picks. DO NOT TRADE DOWN.
As bad as 0-13 is, if, yes IF, they get 4 or 5 solid draftees, they'll be like Indy or Houston...not spectacular, but close to a contender.
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the Browns have a lack of talent. forget the dumping on the head coach all the time.
I think, after seeing how RGiii has done the same things with the Redskins... that he doesn't see
the field much. I give up on thinking he has "it". He just doesn't. Too bad. His decision-making
is atrocious often, his accuracy sucks bigtime on short and intermediate throws. The Browns have to trade
for one (Garopollo, of course, the guy a lot of us wanted in the draft), or draft one... Trubisky.
I've just decided that RGiii has reached his level of incompetence.
The Browns need to draft a KR, because Louis? seems like he wants to run sideways to not get hit.
Secondary needs fixed. Doesn't work. Probably lack of talent, maybe Horton hears a Who,
and watching the linebackers today, after watching Alambama play Florida... the Browns desperately
need a dynamic Reuben Foster. He's amazing - explosive, fast, outsanding instincts, makes plays from sideline
to sideline, ... he and Zach Cunningham would be outstanding additions to the Browns' defense. Foster
is outstanding. If only Foster would reach the second round... for just one pick by the Browns.
Maybe the problem is, that pass coverage works on Horton's paper, but not in real football on the field.
TE's get wide open like I can't believe, gaps are huge, coverage so much of the time is behind the receiver..
it just doesn't work most of the time. Too bad. The upside, though, is that the Browns do NOT GIVE UP, not
for one second.
and the refs. that horsecollar tackle vs Coleman nearly wasn't called. WTF ?
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and, the Browns are going in the right direction, they just lack talent. You don't fire coaches just because
they aren't winning their first year. You only fire coaches when they are going in the wrong direction, and
have lost the team.
Anything else is a dumb emotional knee jerk.
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Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.
Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.
Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.
Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.
This team is so deficient in talent it's ridiculous. The FO made some serious mistakes letting a few of the talented guys walk.
Fire RG3? After one outing?
Could be a new low in Browns' fandom...
Make that 1-3\4 Tour. Plus the preseason.
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Why in the HELL would you fire hue jackson? Some of you act like the Browns were/are really on the verge of a super bowl. The team still needs to recover from the Farmer era. Firing Jackson just screams "more of the same please" and the factory of sadness remains open for another 2-3 seasons at least. The browns NEED continuity to turn the corner. As an outsider im always shocked by this from the Browns base. Yes the team has had bad coaches, i wouldnt label jackson as a bad coach considering the qb revolving door and the injuries.
Get a damn grip doom and gloomer coach firing bridage. Fire jackson and enjoy more mediocrity.
i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?
GTFO.
i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?
GTFO.
Bitterness is really bad for you.
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Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.
Only reason Haslam won't fire Hue is because he is black. If he were white he would be gone, guarfuckingteed.
Are you saying that Jimmy Harlem doesn't like white people?
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Look at what they've given Hue to work with. I can't believe some of you guys are calling for his head when he hardly has any players. Most of these guys wouldn't be on practice squads elsewhere.
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Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.i'd rather have the farmer pettine era. just my opinion. the fans did to them what they want to do to jackson now..........so now who get's to pick and choose? a fucking stooler fan? you know talent like piss knows a bucket. like the browns FO. this FO whiffed on every WR they picked. farmer whiffed on every DB. so? 6 or one one half a dozen?
GTFO.
Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?
Im no front office executive but i know more than my fair share about the nfl. Fire another coach, enjoyed further suckitude. Its pretty damn simple.
Edit: you enjoyed the farmer era? Based on what? Blown first round draft choices?
If it is one thing Vag knows about its suckitude. For sure.
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For those that watched the last game, the announcers mentioned that they had been in Berea and that the morale and spirit of everyone there was not that of an 0-12 football team. I've heard similar comments from other media people and the players themselves. Everyone is positive because they feel like they are building something and more importantly because Hue Jackson keeps a positive spirit and gets more determined with every loss. He doesn't give up like Pettine and Co. did.
Nothing more than that convinces me that Hue is the right coach for this job. We were never going to win a lot of games this year. Bill Bilichick maybe squeezes a couple out of this roster. The real barometer for Hue's success isn't wins and losses this year, but if he can steer the ship through the shit storm without losing his team's respect, and it's pretty clear that he's doing just that.
Some Browns fans are so beaten down by the losing that they act like they want more of the same pain because that's what you're asking for when you call for Hue Jackson to be fired, and if Hue gets fired because of all your clamoring, you'll get what you deserve.
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I have no qualms about Hugh staying ...I just want to see a football brain head the draft as GM and not someone who has no idea what they are talking about .... Sashi should be head of HR..... shopping for health plans etc not deciding what players we draft with 2 first round picks
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Amazed that folks still do not get our FO's structure...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Amazed that folks still do not get our FO's structure...
I don't think "getting it"...the structure... is the issue....it is having faith in the ability of the occupants of that structure. Or disagreeing with their tactic of stripping this team down to look like that statue a couple of posts above, then trying to recloth it using grass clippings and moss scrapings
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Amazed that folks still do not get our FO's structure...
I suppose the idea of the team actually sticking with a regime and letting them build something instead of expecting instant success seems hard to grasp as it hasn't happened here in a long time.
I don't think "getting it"...the structure... is the issue....it is having faith in the ability of the occupants of that structure. Or disagreeing with their tactic of stripping this team down to look like that statue a couple of posts above, then trying to recloth it using grass clippings and moss scrapings
They aren't trying to recloth it using grass clipping and moss scrapings, they are trying to recloth it using grass seeds and saplings. They may not be much now, but they'll grow into something if you give it time. Whatever 'clothes' we had before stripping the statue down must've been picked up from the local thrift shop because it only got us three wins.
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Amazed that folks still do not get our FO's structure...
I suppose the idea of the team actually sticking with a regime and letting them build something instead of expecting instant success seems hard to grasp as it hasn't happened here in a long time.
I don't think "getting it"...the structure... is the issue....it is having faith in the ability of the occupants of that structure. Or disagreeing with their tactic of stripping this team down to look like that statue a couple of posts above, then trying to recloth it using grass clippings and moss scrapings
They aren't trying to recloth it using grass clipping and moss scrapings, they are trying to recloth it using grass seeds and saplings. They may not be much now, but they'll grow into something if you give it time. Whatever 'clothes' we had before stripping the statue down must've been picked up from the local thrift shop because it only got us three wins.
I suppose the idea of the team actually sticking with a regime and letting them build something instead of expecting instant success seems hard to grasp as it hasn't happened here in a long time.
They aren't trying to recloth it using grass clipping and moss scrapings, they are trying to recloth it using grass seeds and saplings. They may not be much now, but they'll grow into something if you give it time. Whatever 'clothes' we had before stripping the statue down must've been picked up from the local thrift shop because it only got us three wins.
Which is three more than we have now. I knew before the season we were going to suck, if you remember I put the over under odds at 2-1\2 wins and took the under. But this is an entire different category of suck. Non-competetive suck. Still remember the preseason bleatings- we're rebuilding , but we're trying to win- yeah right- whatever. If this is tank for Trubiski- I suppose I can deal with it.
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jeff fisher is available now he would be a coup for cleveland football if we could get him here
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jeff fisher is available now he would be a coup for cleveland football if we could get him here
jeff fisher is available now he would be a coup for cleveland football if we could get him here
Yeah cause he worked out real well for the Rams..
We need Jon Gruden!!!
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