***Official Browns Vs. Bengals Game Day Thread***

VaporTrail

I would just like to point out that Crowell got 110 yards on 10 carries this weekend. Also, a big middle finger to Mark O and the other dipshits in the tavern who kicked me out for pointing out that the problem on our team isn't with our offensive line.

Mark O

@vaportrail said:
I would just like to point out that Crowell got 110 yards on 10 carries this weekend. Also, a big middle finger to Mark O and the other dipshits in the tavern who kicked me out for pointing out that the problem on our team isn't with our offensive line.

yep and most of those yards came running right up the middle behind the guy on our line that you hate... so you can take your middle finger and shove it up your ass. I kicked you out because you were annoying from the very beginning by saying that you were (1). rooting against the Browns to win a game (2). hoping the league would fold but yet you still watch every week and finally (3) being a general asshole all game long. And one last thing...take your big middle finger and shove it back up your ass.

gumby73

Agreed Mark o & Damn you should have seen the Vapor Trail on that Kick 74 yard punts,Thanks

Mark O

@gumby73 said:
Agreed Mark o & Damn you should have seen the Vapor Trail on that Kick 74 yard punts,Thanks

i do what I can...

Tour2ma

A final note on the TP-Pacman feud...

Browns wide receiver Terrelle Pryor chastises anyone who assumes he argued with Robert Griffin III, agrees with Adam Jones: ‘I was garbage’

By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal sports writer

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-wide-receiver-terrelle-pryor-chastises-anyone-who-assumes-he-argued-with-robert-griffin-iii-agrees-with-adam-jones-i-was-garbage-1.733641

Mudfly

I wasnt excited about signing Pryor, because I remember him from way back....first when he was the biggest HS player ever.....then his whole pre-college signing production.....then how he was as a Buckeye.......and through all of that, he always seemed immature and full of himself.....

Then we signed him.....and he seemed to be grown up and a bit humbled.....worked hard in the off-season.....worked hard through TC.....and obviously grew as a player and a WR.....and I gave him big props for doing so and admitted I was impressed with his new level of maturity and team player-ness..... and how he no longer seemed to be a cocky, me first guy....

But now.....thats he's back to being a "good" player, as opposed to being a failed(and humbled) QB.....it would seem some of that "me great" thing is creeping back in......

Tour2ma

Some, but then he did say he was "garbage"...

TP just seemed to be another of those in a long line of gifted athletes who never had to work hard to excel... so they never learned how to work hard. When he failed at QB (not horribly, but he failed) to make a career at his gifted position, he had to learn another position. That's a humbling prospect.

Now that he has achieved a decent level of proficiency at this second, "new" position comes an interesting fork in the road. One branch is flat as a pancake, easy peasy nice and easy. The other is another steep climb to greatness.

It will be interesting to see which he chooses.

Tour2ma

Quick OL grading update...

Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....

There's good news and bad news...

The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.

More later...

Zombo

@tour2ma said:

Quick OL grading update...

Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....

There's good news and bad news...

The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.

The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.

More later...

Cam's the worst player in the NFL.

Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!

Z

Mudfly

Zombo said:

Cam's the worst player in the NFL.

Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

Tour2ma

@mudfly said:
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

Or....

Tape sessions and Walk-thrus are "his speed", and he really shines...

I am only half-joking..

Zombo

@mudfly said:
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

They didn't draft him.

He's a first rounder and they gave him a shot. I'm OK with that.

I think if that Reiter guy would have not gotten injured he wouldn't have gotten his job back. Even if Bitonio stayed healthy he may have lost his job.

Somebody has to be the worst player, fitting that he is on the worst team. Actually more of a cause, probably.

Z

hoorta

Zombo said:

Cam's the worst player in the NFL.

Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!

Z

@mudfly said:
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....

It's why I'm pimping for Elflin, or another top graded center in the 2017 draft, no later than round two. Higher if necessary. If it's obvious Erving sucks that bad- what that does it say about his backups? CFL material?

Tour2ma

Eff the back-ups...

It says "our starters are hurt."

stillmotion

Zombo said:

Cam's the worst player in the NFL.

Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!

Z

I'd take Cam over Brandon Weeden

hoorta

@tour2ma said:

Eff the back-ups...

It says "our starters are hurt."

the only thing that hurts on Cam is his ego when he gets turnstiled yet again.... Hey just an observation... When Greco was still healthy, why didn't they bench Cam? Now? I suppose he's still playing because we go a whole lot of nothing behind him.

Tour2ma

Because Cooper had not yet arrived?

I went back in for another couple series... OY! Awarded my first ever triple-minus... and, no, you do not have to ask who got it. I think I am up to a dozen still shots now... this pain must be shared.

I now find myself longing for the ignorant bliss of thinking last Sunday, "Cam just played his best game as a Brown," and then chuckling at the thought that it might still be true.

And Crow? As long as he never has to make a decision he's fine, but if there are two choices? Seems like he'll pick the door with the the brick wall behind it every time. I never played the position, but back in the Stone Age I remember coaches telling RBs to cut whichever way my ass was pointing. Maybe someone can let me know if that's changed?

I'm not sure I can take anymore, but meeting friends at a local Microbrewery early tonite. So I may have a good enough bravery- buzz and some time to kill before SNL comes on.

gftChris

Cam scored highest on PFF for the browns this week, so it seems you disagree?

Tour2ma

Did not focus on Cam this week... yet to finish the Bengals' game. Not sure I can/will.

However, even not focused on him I caught one whiff on a run block... or I should say, attempted run block. But in fairness the DL was a whole yard away.