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Some, but then he did say he was "garbage"...
TP just seemed to be another of those in a long line of gifted athletes who never had to work hard to excel... so they never learned how to work hard. When he failed at QB (not horribly, but he failed) to make a career at his gifted position, he had to learn another position. That's a humbling prospect.
Now that he has achieved a decent level of proficiency at this second, "new" position comes an interesting fork in the road. One branch is flat as a pancake, easy peasy nice and easy. The other is another steep climb to greatness.
It will be interesting to see which he chooses.
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Quick OL grading update...
Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....
There's good news and bad news...
- The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
- The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.
More later...
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Quick OL grading update...
Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....
There's good news and bad news...
- The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
- The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.
More later...
Quick OL grading update...
Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....
There's good news and bad news...
- The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
- The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!
Z
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Quick OL grading update...
Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....
There's good news and bad news...
- The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
- The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!
Z
Zombo said:
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....
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Zombo said:
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....
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Zombo said:
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....
They didn't draft him.
He's a first rounder and they gave him a shot. I'm OK with that.
I think if that Reiter guy would have not gotten injured he wouldn't have gotten his job back. Even if Bitonio stayed healthy he may have lost his job.
Somebody has to be the worst player, fitting that he is on the worst team. Actually more of a cause, probably.
Z
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Quick OL grading update...
Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....
There's good news and bad news...
- The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
- The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!
Z
Zombo said:
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!
Z
Yet is declared our starter and stays in that position for the whole season......great talent evaluation and decision making there.....
It's why I'm pimping for Elflin, or another top graded center in the 2017 draft, no later than round two. Higher if necessary. If it's obvious Erving sucks that bad- what that does it say about his backups? CFL material?
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Eff the back-ups...
It says "our starters are hurt."
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Quick OL grading update...
Started late yesterday afternoon and almost made it to halftime before the wife got home. Here's a teaser....
There's good news and bad news...
- The good news is I think we may have something in Cooper... pretty solid debut.
- The bad news... we really need a new Center. More than physical limitations, of which some linger, Cam seems to have absolutely no aptitude for the position. He is as completely void of discipline as any OL I have seen and his read/react can be timed with a sundial.
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!
Z
Zombo said:
Cam's the worst player in the NFL.
Glad you are doing this, can't wait for whole report!
Z
I'd take Cam over Brandon Weeden
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Eff the back-ups...
It says "our starters are hurt."
the only thing that hurts on Cam is his ego when he gets turnstiled yet again.... Hey just an observation... When Greco was still healthy, why didn't they bench Cam? Now? I suppose he's still playing because we go a whole lot of nothing behind him.
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Because Cooper had not yet arrived?
I went back in for another couple series... OY! Awarded my first ever triple-minus... and, no, you do not have to ask who got it. I think I am up to a dozen still shots now... this pain must be shared.
I now find myself longing for the ignorant bliss of thinking last Sunday, "Cam just played his best game as a Brown," and then chuckling at the thought that it might still be true.
And Crow? As long as he never has to make a decision he's fine, but if there are two choices? Seems like he'll pick the door with the the brick wall behind it every time. I never played the position, but back in the Stone Age I remember coaches telling RBs to cut whichever way my ass was pointing. Maybe someone can let me know if that's changed?
I'm not sure I can take anymore, but meeting friends at a local Microbrewery early tonite. So I may have a good enough bravery- buzz and some time to kill before SNL comes on.
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Cam scored highest on PFF for the browns this week, so it seems you disagree?
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