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  • you have to fix the oline or you can't run or pass well. have to get the right qb or you can't pass well.

    Have to be able to block. Early first round picks have to have immediate, dynamic

    impact on your team. If you are the Cowboys, etc... you have the luxury of drafting a qb

    that isn't going to start right away, but come on...

    the question is, which player can come in and be a game changer, the most dramatic addition to your team?

    If could be Trabisky, or Allen, or Garrett, or Foster or Hooker, some other names... with the second pick.

    Can you get a dramatic impact edge rusher later? maybe, if you are smart. Can you get a dramatic impact

    qb later? yeah, if you are very smart, and extremely lucky, like the Cowboys. I would love for the Browns to have

    drafted Elliot. But seriously, with the oline right side, qb situation, may as well not play him much, he would have

    been battered all to often behind the los. Nobody fears ignoring the pass game of the Browns. McCown can put

    up huge numbers, and they still lose.

    They aren't complete enough as a team to compete and win games. First year, it is just what is it. But you never

    get there, unless you get started on the right path. We are there. Ya only have one draft a year, so it's ludicrous to

    think the sky is falling just because we have a winless team so far.

    This next draft is crucial, and it's going to be fascinating.

  • Fournette would be a great second pick in the first rd.

  • While I think he'd be an awesome add to our team......I think our needs are so much deeper elsewhere...so Id avoid picking a RB that high.....Id prefer to wait for some strength on D and an improved OL before I start adding more O skill players...

    @mudfly said:

    While I think he'd be an awesome add to our team......I think our needs are so much deeper elsewhere...so Id avoid picking a RB that high.....Id prefer to wait for some strength on D and an improved OL before I start adding more O skill players...

    And Mixon may fall to late 2nd earlier 3rd and he would be a nice compliment to Crow

  • @mudfly said:

    While I think he'd be an awesome add to our team......I think our needs are so much deeper elsewhere...so Id avoid picking a RB that high.....Id prefer to wait for some strength on D and an improved OL before I start adding more O skill players...

    And Mixon may fall to late 2nd earlier 3rd and he would be a nice compliment to Crow

    @baconhound said:

    And Mixon may fall to late 2nd earlier 3rd and he would be a nice compliment to Crow

    Joe Mixon the woman hitter? No thanks.

    http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/23/joe-mixon-press-conference-oklahoma/

  • @baconhound said:

    And Mixon may fall to late 2nd earlier 3rd and he would be a nice compliment to Crow

    Joe Mixon the woman hitter? No thanks.

    http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/23/joe-mixon-press-conference-oklahoma/

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm an OU fan an agree it looks bad but the talent is there. Someone is going to take the chance. Mixon is better than Demarco Murray and almost as good as Peterson.

  • you have to fix the oline or you can't run or pass well. have to get the right qb or you can't pass well.

    Have to be able to block. Early first round picks have to have immediate, dynamic

    impact on your team. If you are the Cowboys, etc... you have the luxury of drafting a qb

    that isn't going to start right away, but come on...

    the question is, which player can come in and be a game changer, the most dramatic addition to your team?

    If could be Trabisky, or Allen, or Garrett, or Foster or Hooker, some other names... with the second pick.

    Can you get a dramatic impact edge rusher later? maybe, if you are smart. Can you get a dramatic impact

    qb later? yeah, if you are very smart, and extremely lucky, like the Cowboys. I would love for the Browns to have

    drafted Elliot. But seriously, with the oline right side, qb situation, may as well not play him much, he would have

    been battered all to often behind the los. Nobody fears ignoring the pass game of the Browns. McCown can put

    up huge numbers, and they still lose.

    They aren't complete enough as a team to compete and win games. First year, it is just what is it. But you never

    get there, unless you get started on the right path. We are there. Ya only have one draft a year, so it's ludicrous to

    think the sky is falling just because we have a winless team so far.

    This next draft is crucial, and it's going to be fascinating.

    @calfoxwc said:

    it's ludicrous to think the sky is falling just because we have a winless team so far

    If we in fact put the 0 and 16 in 2016 and that doesn't mean the sky is falling, then damn, I would hate to see how many losses it takes for you to look up.

  • Havent duke and crow been performing fairly admirably for running behind one of thevworst o lines in football?

  • Havent duke and crow been performing fairly admirably for running behind one of thevworst o lines in football?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Havent duke and crow been performing fairly admirably for running behind one of thevworst o lines in football?

    Absolutely but Mixon is the real deal. He is Zeke Elliott

  • A RB #1 overall? Really...

  • Absolutely zero interest in this idea.

    I'd be livid.

  • let me guess..another Leonard "Adrian Foster" Fournette? good luck staying healthy all 17 weeks with this guy too

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Havent duke and crow been performing fairly admirably for running behind one of thevworst o lines in football?

    Absolutely but Mixon is the real deal. He is Zeke Elliott

    @baconhound said:

    Absolutely but Mixon is the real deal. He is Zeke Elliott

    Trolololololol.

  • Yes! lets draft more fatass lineman.. thats really gotten us to so many superbowls... We cant even pass or catch the football because our QB's blow and our WR's are average at best.. but lets continue drafting fatass lineman.. it has worked so well in the past.. NOT!

    @nickers said:

    Yes! lets draft more fatass lineman.. thats really gotten us to so many superbowls... We cant even pass or catch the football because our QB's blow and our WR's are average at best.. but lets continue drafting fatass lineman.. it has worked so well in the past.. NOT!

    This gimmick wasn't even good the first time.

  • It's a possibility that we could take Trubisky first then pick Fournette with our second first.

    The WR position was addressed last season.

    With Gordon, Pryor, Coleman, Higgins, Hawkins, Louis and Payton we should be set. Most WR come to the next level in their second season so really just about all of them could make the jump! That jump would be even further amplified by a solid and dependable starter at both QB and RB.

    I think we've found our long term backup in Kessler, the kids a champ... just not elite. With Trubisky, Kessler and Hogan at QB I would feel pretty comfortable at that position for a while. Then we would have found solutions to QB-HB1/HB2-WR1/2/3/4- and all that really needs tweaked would be the center position. Hell, maybe a healthy and conditioned Erving could make a comeback next season?

    The Defense did a good job early in the season... too many injuries and too many reps killed that unit. Next season with an improved Offense this defense could shine.

    Just a thought.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'm an OU fan an agree it looks bad but the talent is there. Someone is going to take the chance. Mixon is better than Demarco Murray and almost as good as Peterson.

    @baconhound said:

    I'm an OU fan an agree it looks bad but the talent is there. Someone is going to take the chance. Mixon is better than Demarco Murray and almost as good as Peterson.

    You can't possibly actually believe either of those.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Havent duke and crow been performing fairly admirably for running behind one of thevworst o lines in football?

    Absolutely but Mixon is the real deal. He is Zeke Elliott

    @baconhound said:

    Absolutely but Mixon is the real deal. He is Zeke Elliott

    Or this.

  • @baconhound said:

    I'm an OU fan an agree it looks bad but the talent is there. Someone is going to take the chance. Mixon is better than Demarco Murray and almost as good as Peterson.

    You can't possibly actually believe either of those.

    @wargograw said:

    You can't possibly actually believe either of those.

    Absolutely if he wasn't sharing carries with Perine his numbers would be off the charts. Mixon is faster than Murray with much better passing catching skills. I'm not sure of measurables but football speed he is faster than Peterson but Peterson is a bulldozer. Therein a reason Stoops sold his soul with Keith Ford & Perine on the roster, Mixon is the real deal.

  • you have to fix the oline or you can't run or pass well. have to get the right qb or you can't pass well.

    Have to be able to block. Early first round picks have to have immediate, dynamic

    impact on your team. If you are the Cowboys, etc... you have the luxury of drafting a qb

    that isn't going to start right away, but come on...

    the question is, which player can come in and be a game changer, the most dramatic addition to your team?

    If could be Trabisky, or Allen, or Garrett, or Foster or Hooker, some other names... with the second pick.

    Can you get a dramatic impact edge rusher later? maybe, if you are smart. Can you get a dramatic impact

    qb later? yeah, if you are very smart, and extremely lucky, like the Cowboys. I would love for the Browns to have

    drafted Elliot. But seriously, with the oline right side, qb situation, may as well not play him much, he would have

    been battered all to often behind the los. Nobody fears ignoring the pass game of the Browns. McCown can put

    up huge numbers, and they still lose.

    They aren't complete enough as a team to compete and win games. First year, it is just what is it. But you never

    get there, unless you get started on the right path. We are there. Ya only have one draft a year, so it's ludicrous to

    think the sky is falling just because we have a winless team so far.

    This next draft is crucial, and it's going to be fascinating.

    @calfoxwc said:

    They aren't complete enough as a team to compete and win games. First year, it is just what is it. But you never

    get there, unless you get started on the right path. We are there. Ya only have one draft a year, so it's ludicrous to

    think the sky is falling just because we have a winless team so far.

    This next draft is crucial, and it's going to be fascinating.

    Agree. Just don't trade any picks and they can fix things in a hurry.

  • I don't think Mixon has even declared yet has he?

  • Mixon is a player the previous Browns would have ended up drafting. Then, he would be on dope,

    suspended, maybe jail time, etc etc etc.

    Then the same people who wanted to draft him, would bitch and bitch etc etc... forever and 27 more Sundays...

    NO. The Browns now draft comprehensively, including character, love for the game, locker room addition or

    subtraction....all that stuff. Stop the cycle of drafting players who are punks mentally while only looking at college videos and the

    combine.