Betsy DeVos
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Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.
It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.
Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.
It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.
great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time
in the winter.
Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -
"True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."
"According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."
"Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?
Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."
"She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.
“I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:
The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential."So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time
in the winter.
Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -
"True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."
"According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."
"Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?
Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."
"She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.
“I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:
The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential." -
Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire.
It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician.
great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time
in the winter.
Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos -
"True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree."
"According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years."
"Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations?
Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others."
"She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like.
“I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said:
The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential."So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!
Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.
So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!
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The fuck are you blabbering about?
"This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies
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Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.
So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!
Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.
So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!
The 'attack' term was meant more for Cal, but you did criticize Clinton's pick from 20 years ago, which is fine, but irrelevant. It's basically arguing that the precedent makes it okay to appoint someone with no experience. I thought Trump was supposed to be the outsider who was going to do things differently in Washington? So how is appointing someone with zero qualifications different than doing something you claim has been happening in Washington for decades?
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
"This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies
And your point is....? First off, I"m neither liberal nor age discriminating. I'm calling out an obvious troll.
Calling me liberal is like saying I'm a Steelers fan because I agree that Ben is a HoF caliber QB. Your logic (not surprisingly) doesn't hold up. But please, carry on with another long winded post I'll be sure not to read.
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So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set?
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So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set?
So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set?
Trump is free to do (almost) as he damn near pleases. Doesn't make him exempt from appropriate criticism.
However he and his ilk are the ones that ran on a platform of being the outsiders of Washington and would make sensible, everyman kind of decisions correcting the course of what HAS been the norm. This is not that.
No?
edit: Unless you would hire a plumber whose main background is IT work?
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Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education.
This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't. It's creepy as shit.
This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't. It's creepy as shit.
You're creepy as shit. Some punk. I bet you shave your legs.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
http://www.snopes.com/betsy-devos-education-secretary/
Nice work. I see you are getting more information from internet memes these days .
Did you read that Snopes article? Or did you pull a Cal?
What did I say that was wrong?
Yes I read it that's why I posted it. Many of the pros and cons of her nomination are listed and excused or debunked.Did you read that Snopes article? Or did you pull a Cal?
What did I say that was wrong?
I'm not picking a fight with you here just wondering as I assume you are.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
How do you know that she can't do the job? Has she already made a tragic mistake? If she does I won't back her.
How many here have ever interviewed someone for a job?
I have found just as many if not more qualified people without degrees. Sometimes the ones with degrees almost feel entitled to the position.
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yep. Because their pres - can have a communist as an advisor and they won't say a peep.
if you aren't in lockstep with liberalism garbage.... you are nevert "qualified".
"She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like. "
She is invested in children, has children, she is very successful, and it takes someone
who isn't career-wise "on the take" to see the problems objectively. Most of the time,
you worked in the school system, you either had to fight indoctrination or you get indoctrinated.
saying she isn't qualifed because she isn't on the NEA's side... is sad. Did you guys
complain about Clinton's choice? A lawyer?
I think not. You are just barking up the old "we change it because the president is a different party" nonsense.
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You're creepy as shit. Some punk. I bet you shave your legs.
Oh, I think I hit a nerve.
How do you know that she can't do the job?
That is just.... THE worst logic I've ever heard. Maybe we should hire neurosurgeons that previously worked at daycares because, hey, how in the fuck do you know they CAN'T do the job. AMIRITE?!?
How many here have ever interviewed someone for a job?
I have. More times than I care to count. What's your point to this?
I have found just as many if not more qualified people without degrees. Sometimes the ones with degrees almost feel entitled to the position.
Have you ever interviewed someone in a panel committee for an appointment to the leader of a federal department?
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I think when you CHAIR the AMERICAN FEDERATION FOR CHILDREN,
you understand a hell of a lot about public education issues.
That's obviously why they didn't put their kids in public schools.
Did obamao have his kids in public schools? So, he was unqualified to nominate anybody
for Sec of Ed ?
What school does Obama's daughters attend?Described as "the Harvard of Washington's private schools", the school has educated children of notable politicians, including those of several presidents. Both of United States President Barack Obama's daughters, Sasha and Malia, and Vice President Joe Biden's grandchildren attend the school. -
Who did I attack? Re read what I posted.
So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research!
The 'attack' term was meant more for Cal, but you did criticize Clinton's pick from 20 years ago, which is fine, but irrelevant. It's basically arguing that the precedent makes it okay to appoint someone with no experience. I thought Trump was supposed to be the outsider who was going to do things differently in Washington? So how is appointing someone with zero qualifications different than doing something you claim has been happening in Washington for decades?
The demand for qualifications seems to be a little bit hazy and shifts one way or the other depending on whose candidate we are discussing.The 'attack' term was meant more for Cal, but you did criticize Clinton's pick from 20 years ago, which is fine, but irrelevant. It's basically arguing that the precedent makes it okay to appoint someone with no experience. I thought Trump was supposed to be the outsider who was going to do things differently in Washington? So how is appointing someone with zero qualifications different than doing something you claim has been happening in Washington for decades?
Frankly I'm not sure that a CEO of a computer company wouldn't be a good choice for CEO of an agricultural firm or an automotive company.
I remember talking to a sales guy who believed that if he could sell guitars you could sell refrigerators or cars or men's clothing.
So I don't know exactly what qualifications would make her better. I'm not just blindly defending her but I would think that growing up business-wise in the teachers union would not be a positive thing.
A different example would Joe Thomas necessarily be a better head coach than Bill Belichick.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
You're creepy as shit. Some punk. I bet you shave your legs.
Oh, I think I hit a nerve.
How do you know that she can't do the job?
That is just.... THE worst logic I've ever heard. Maybe we should hire neurosurgeons that previously worked at daycares because, hey, how in the fuck do you know they CAN'T do the job. AMIRITE?!?
How many here have ever interviewed someone for a job?
I have. More times than I care to count. What's your point to this?
I have found just as many if not more qualified people without degrees. Sometimes the ones with degrees almost feel entitled to the position.
Have you ever interviewed someone in a panel committee for an appointment to the leader of a federal department?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I'm sure that obamao's sec of ed were longtime progressive wonks in the public schools.
guess what. they didn't fix anything. That is why you get someone invested longterm
in FIXING the problem.
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I would like the Secretary of Education to have at least some experience with public schools.
Like the housing secretary has experience in public housing you mean?
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The demand for qualifications seems to be a little bit hazy and shifts one way or the other depending on whose candidate we are discussing.The 'attack' term was meant more for Cal, but you did criticize Clinton's pick from 20 years ago, which is fine, but irrelevant. It's basically arguing that the precedent makes it okay to appoint someone with no experience. I thought Trump was supposed to be the outsider who was going to do things differently in Washington? So how is appointing someone with zero qualifications different than doing something you claim has been happening in Washington for decades?
Frankly I'm not sure that a CEO of a computer company wouldn't be a good choice for CEO of an agricultural firm or an automotive company.
I remember talking to a sales guy who believed that if he could sell guitars you could sell refrigerators or cars or men's clothing.
So I don't know exactly what qualifications would make her better. I'm not just blindly defending her but I would think that growing up business-wise in the teachers union would not be a positive thing.
A different example would Joe Thomas necessarily be a better head coach than Bill Belichick.
WSS
The demand for qualifications seems to be a little bit hazy and shifts one way or the other depending on whose candidate we are discussing.
Frankly I'm not sure that a CEO of a computer company wouldn't be a good choice for CEO of an agricultural firm or an automotive company.
I remember talking to a sales guy who believed that if he could sell guitars you could sell refrigerators or cars or men's clothing.
So I don't know exactly what qualifications would make her better. I'm not just blindly defending her but I would think that growing up business-wise in the teachers union would not be a positive thing.
A different example would Joe Thomas necessarily be a better head coach than Bill Belichick.
WSS
Sure, there is no denying that the demand for qualifications is going to come from the opposing party. That doesn't mean a demand for qualifications shouldn't come. The Education Secretary's job, however, is not retail, and that's what you are comparing it to. The qualifications that would make her better would be the management of both public and private school systems so that she could see the flaws and strengths of each and try to address them.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
oh, baloney. the reps confirmed all sorts of appts by obamao, that did NOT
suscribe to their stances.
but NOW, of course, that table is turned. "devos bad, not on our side, boo hoo, dammit"
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