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  • I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

  • I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Sure that wasn't me?

  • @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Sure that wasn't me?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Sure that wasn't me?

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

  • @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

    @clevfan4life said:

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

    I think he provides more long term value / potential on defense than offense.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Sure that wasn't me?

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

    @mld-woody said:

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

  • @mld-woody said:

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

    @tiamat63 said:

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

    I think he provides more long term value / potential on defense than offense.

    @mld-woody said:

    I think he provides more long term value / potential on defense than offense.

    I fully agree

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

    @mld-woody said:

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

    Amen.

    In mock draft news, CBS Sports mocked Peppers to us at 12.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2017-nfl-mock-draft-why-christian-mccaffrey-makes-sense-for-the-patriots/

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

    Amen.

    In mock draft news, CBS Sports mocked Peppers to us at 12.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2017-nfl-mock-draft-why-christian-mccaffrey-makes-sense-for-the-patriots/

    @mld-woody said:

    Won't even complain at this point. I've said my piece, I leave it to the front office to assure, or destroy, their job security.

  • Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

  • Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

    @baconhound said:

    Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

    Great question. I remember advocating for him a few years back on another board as a mid round target.

    He had a career 2016 and I'd be VERY interested in taking a look at what his market value is. While I might love the thought of having some home grown boys on the roster, Jefferson brings the ability to supplant Tyvis AND

    play a more traditional back hash role as well.

  • @baconhound said:

    Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

    Great question. I remember advocating for him a few years back on another board as a mid round target.

    He had a career 2016 and I'd be VERY interested in taking a look at what his market value is. While I might love the thought of having some home grown boys on the roster, Jefferson brings the ability to supplant Tyvis AND

    play a more traditional back hash role as well.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Great question. I remember advocating for him a few years back on another board as a mid round target.

    He had a career 2016 and I'd be VERY interested in taking a look at what his market value is. While I might love the thought of having some home grown boys on the roster, Jefferson brings the ability to supplant Tyvis AND

    play a more traditional back hash role as well.

    Looks like he is and maybe a cheap get at a couple million per.

  • Great quote from the article: "The Browns already have two quality, versatile linebackers in Jamie Collins and Christian Kirksey."

    It's so good they posted it twice.

    This article points out that Williams will not use 3 pure LB -- so any prior discussion about [remotely plausible] draft targets that included LB Foster are not really accurate because we already have our LB starters.

    Schobert/orchard/johnson seem fine for depth/spot starter.. Davis is not because he can't cover in space and should be a candidate for cut/trade.

  • Great quote from the article: "The Browns already have two quality, versatile linebackers in Jamie Collins and Christian Kirksey."

    It's so good they posted it twice.

    This article points out that Williams will not use 3 pure LB -- so any prior discussion about [remotely plausible] draft targets that included LB Foster are not really accurate because we already have our LB starters.

    Schobert/orchard/johnson seem fine for depth/spot starter.. Davis is not because he can't cover in space and should be a candidate for cut/trade.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Great quote from the article: "The Browns already have two quality, versatile linebackers in Jamie Collins and Christian Kirksey."

    It's so good they posted it twice.

    This article points out that Williams will not use 3 pure LB -- so our prior discussions about [remotely plausible] draft targets are incorrect because we already have our LB starters.

    Schobert/orchard/johnson seem fine for depth/spot starter.. Davis is not because he can't cover in space and should be a candidate for cut/trade.

    Well....again, it is said that Collins best spot is a ILB. This would be fine in a 3-4. But with perhaps the Browns running a base 4-3 an with the talent on the Browns he has to slide out to one of the OLB spots.

    I am of the opinion that the Browns are deficient at the OLB spots. Schobert is a starter. I think we can us an upgrade.

    Orchard should be in there....but he has not proven to be anything but backup depth.

    I still think a killer pure OLB may be a high draft target....more so than DE.

    And I also think with the base 4-3 that a DT may be a high draft target...more so than a DE.

    So... it is possible that Allen may be more in play at #1 than people think.

    Or Caleb Brantly or Carlos Watkins in round 2.

    Or in that 2d round you could see a former Schobert teammate take over for him: TJ Watt. (or the likes of McKinley/Tim Williams/Reddick/Cunningham