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  • We'll have to see how he's used. The DC gets credit both ways as well. That is especially true in this case. That's the point I'm trying to get across. This is a player who's unique skill-set can best be utilized by a creative, good DC. It will mostly be on Peppers, but the DC and scheme is especially important in his case

  • Peppers is a ball killer why would we use him on offense much? He's a guided cruise missile

  • I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

  • Well, this guy may be better suited to the "hybrid" spot:

    Obi Melifonwu

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/obi-melifonwu?id=2558189

    6'4 219. Compared to 6'0 205 for Peppers

  • And maybe for a 5th round flyer this guy:

    Josh Harvey-Clemons

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/josh-harvey-clemons?id=2557880

    6'5 228

  • I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

  • I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Sure that wasn't me?

  • @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Sure that wasn't me?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Sure that wasn't me?

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

  • @mld-woody said:

    I read a quote by some anonymous scout that thinks he'd be better on offense.

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

    @clevfan4life said:

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

    I think he provides more long term value / potential on defense than offense.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Sure that wasn't me?

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

    @mld-woody said:

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

  • @mld-woody said:

    I don't believe thinking you're an NFL Scout makes you one.

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

    @tiamat63 said:

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Meh. He puts 5-10 lbs on and keeps his speed.....ridiculous

    I think he provides more long term value / potential on defense than offense.

    @mld-woody said:

    I think he provides more long term value / potential on defense than offense.

    I fully agree

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I see we're in a mood tonight...

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

    @mld-woody said:

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Then you should get your vision checked too lol

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

    Amen.

    In mock draft news, CBS Sports mocked Peppers to us at 12.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2017-nfl-mock-draft-why-christian-mccaffrey-makes-sense-for-the-patriots/

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Just being stupid about it. Hard to translate the light hearted nature over text.

    Amen.

    In mock draft news, CBS Sports mocked Peppers to us at 12.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2017-nfl-mock-draft-why-christian-mccaffrey-makes-sense-for-the-patriots/

    @mld-woody said:

    Won't even complain at this point. I've said my piece, I leave it to the front office to assure, or destroy, their job security.

  • Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

  • Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

    @baconhound said:

    Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

    Great question. I remember advocating for him a few years back on another board as a mid round target.

    He had a career 2016 and I'd be VERY interested in taking a look at what his market value is. While I might love the thought of having some home grown boys on the roster, Jefferson brings the ability to supplant Tyvis AND

    play a more traditional back hash role as well.

  • @baconhound said:

    Tony Jefferson still a free agent?

    Great question. I remember advocating for him a few years back on another board as a mid round target.

    He had a career 2016 and I'd be VERY interested in taking a look at what his market value is. While I might love the thought of having some home grown boys on the roster, Jefferson brings the ability to supplant Tyvis AND

    play a more traditional back hash role as well.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Great question. I remember advocating for him a few years back on another board as a mid round target.

    He had a career 2016 and I'd be VERY interested in taking a look at what his market value is. While I might love the thought of having some home grown boys on the roster, Jefferson brings the ability to supplant Tyvis AND

    play a more traditional back hash role as well.

    Looks like he is and maybe a cheap get at a couple million per.

  • Great quote from the article: "The Browns already have two quality, versatile linebackers in Jamie Collins and Christian Kirksey."

    It's so good they posted it twice.

    This article points out that Williams will not use 3 pure LB -- so any prior discussion about [remotely plausible] draft targets that included LB Foster are not really accurate because we already have our LB starters.

    Schobert/orchard/johnson seem fine for depth/spot starter.. Davis is not because he can't cover in space and should be a candidate for cut/trade.

  • Great quote from the article: "The Browns already have two quality, versatile linebackers in Jamie Collins and Christian Kirksey."

    It's so good they posted it twice.

    This article points out that Williams will not use 3 pure LB -- so any prior discussion about [remotely plausible] draft targets that included LB Foster are not really accurate because we already have our LB starters.

    Schobert/orchard/johnson seem fine for depth/spot starter.. Davis is not because he can't cover in space and should be a candidate for cut/trade.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Great quote from the article: "The Browns already have two quality, versatile linebackers in Jamie Collins and Christian Kirksey."

    It's so good they posted it twice.

    This article points out that Williams will not use 3 pure LB -- so our prior discussions about [remotely plausible] draft targets are incorrect because we already have our LB starters.

    Schobert/orchard/johnson seem fine for depth/spot starter.. Davis is not because he can't cover in space and should be a candidate for cut/trade.

    Well....again, it is said that Collins best spot is a ILB. This would be fine in a 3-4. But with perhaps the Browns running a base 4-3 an with the talent on the Browns he has to slide out to one of the OLB spots.

    I am of the opinion that the Browns are deficient at the OLB spots. Schobert is a starter. I think we can us an upgrade.

    Orchard should be in there....but he has not proven to be anything but backup depth.

    I still think a killer pure OLB may be a high draft target....more so than DE.

    And I also think with the base 4-3 that a DT may be a high draft target...more so than a DE.

    So... it is possible that Allen may be more in play at #1 than people think.

    Or Caleb Brantly or Carlos Watkins in round 2.

    Or in that 2d round you could see a former Schobert teammate take over for him: TJ Watt. (or the likes of McKinley/Tim Williams/Reddick/Cunningham