ODDS TO WIN 2017 AL PENNANT (11/2/17), Indians? WS too?
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ODDS TO WIN 2017 AMERICAN LEAGUE PENNANT (11/2/17)
Team Odds
Boston Red Sox 3/1
Cleveland Indians 3/1 <--- there's our tribe on 2/21/2017
Houston Astros 6/1
New York Yankees 9/1
Texas Rangers 12/1
Toronto Blue Jays 12/1
Detroit Tigers 15/1
Seattle Mariners 15/1
Baltimore Orioles 20/1
Los Angeles Angels 20/1
Kansas City Royals 25/1
Tampa Bay Rays 50/1
Minnesota Twins 60/1
Oakland Athletics 60/1
Chicago White Sox 100/1
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ODDS TO WIN 2017 WORLD SERIES (11/2/17) vegasinsider.com
Team Odds
Chicago Cubs 15/4
Boston Red Sox 6/1
Los Angeles Dodgers 10/1
Cleveland Indians 11/1 <--- hmmmmm on 2/21/2017
New York Mets 12/1
San Francisco Giants 12/1
Washington Nationals 13/1
Houston Astros 15/1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ a very top heavy NL, except for the AS Game

New York Yankees 24/1
St. Louis Cardinals 25/1
Texas Rangers 25/1
Toronto Blue Jays 25/1
Detroit Tigers 28/1 <---
Seattle Mariners 35/1
Baltimore Orioles 40/1
Los Angeles Angels 40/1
Kansas City Royals 50/1 <---
Colorado Rockies 60/1
Miami Marlins 70/1
Pittsburgh Pirates 70/1
Oakland Athletics 90/1
Arizona Diamondbacks 120/1
Minnesota Twins 120/1 <---
Philadelphia Phillies 120/1
San Diego Padres 120/1
Tampa Bay Rays 120/1
Atlanta Braves 200/1
Chicago White Sox 275/1 <--- CSUX?

Cincinnati Reds 300/1
Milwaukee Brewers 300/1
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Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?
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Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?
Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?
CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.
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Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?
Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?
But the AL CENTRAL appears easier than it's been in years.
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Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?
CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.
CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.
OK...I misspoke.....I meant to say.....why would the Indians have the same odds as Boston to win the AL Pennant....but have much longer odds than Boston to win the WS?
I can see having longer odds than say the Cubs or Dodgers...but why Boston?
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CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.
OK...I misspoke.....I meant to say.....why would the Indians have the same odds as Boston to win the AL Pennant....but have much longer odds than Boston to win the WS?
I can see having longer odds than say the Cubs or Dodgers...but why Boston?
I thought that looked strange also but it's just like additional horses in another race plus odds can be affected by the bettors that might be betting unevenly in the AL and WS.OK...I misspoke.....I meant to say.....why would the Indians have the same odds as Boston to win the AL Pennant....but have much longer odds than Boston to win the WS?
I can see having longer odds than say the Cubs or Dodgers...but why Boston?
Plus these numbers can and will change with injuries and unexpectedly hot or cold teams. I was just curious right now in the BOS vs CLE part.
....on second thought that's probably it right now Cleveland is the darling pick in the AL moreso than in the WS.
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Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.
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Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.
Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.
We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.
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Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.
We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.
We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.
No shit, but All star break is a good indicator of whom will make it to the finish.
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We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.
No shit, but All star break is a good indicator of whom will make it to the finish.
No shit, but All star break is a good indicator of whom will make it to the finish.
Hereβs an old article from Sports Illustrated (2010) for a very general idea of the break teams:
.....Here's what 14 full years of Wild-Card Baseball have taught us:
β’ First-place teams should start printing playoff tickets. Teams with an outright division lead of any length at the All-Star break go to the playoffs 73 percent of the time (61 of 83).
β’ Any team with a lead of more than five games is a virtual postseason lock. Only one team led its division at the break by more than five games and didn't make the playoffs: the 2003 Royals, who blew a seven-game lead. Texas holds a 5 1/2-game lead today.
β’ Teams with losing records this deep into the season are toast. Only two sub-.500 teams at the break made the playoffs: the 1997 Astros (43-45) and the 2003 Twins (44-49), who had the luxury of "chasing" the Pirates and Royals, respectively. No team more than five games under .500 at the break has made the postseason......
Bad starts can kill a team, even in April or May, Indians fans can remember a few of those. Still there are a few unusual great run examples but you want to be solid coming out of the break.
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Remember this from 2016?
6. Cleveland Indians: 52-36
Opening Day odds: 68.9%
July 11 odds: 96.9%
Change: +28.0%
The Indians have been around for 115 years now, and earlier this month they managed to set a new franchise record with a 14-game winning streak. They'd never done that before. Led by the baseball's preeminent power rotation -- the Indians have the rotation everyone expected the Mets to have, basically -- the Indians have a comfortable 6 1/2 game lead in the AL Central even though Michael Brantley, their best player, has been limited to 11 games by offseason shoulder surgery and a setback.
7. Chicago Cubs: 53-35
Opening Day odds: 66.4%
July 11 odds: 90.2%
Change: +23.8%
At one point the Cubs had close to a 100 percent chance to make the playoff according to SportsLine, but their recent slump has knocked them down a bit. In fact, since their insane 25-6 start, the Cubbies are a sub-.500 team (28-29). They're still very good of course, and they're very likely to win the NL Central, but at some point Jason Heyward needs to hit and Jake Arrieta has to snap out of his recent slump.
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