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ODDS TO WIN 2017 AL PENNANT (11/2/17), Indians? WS too?

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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?

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      Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?

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      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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      @the-gipper said:

      Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?

      CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.

      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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        Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?

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        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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        @the-gipper said:

        Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?

        But the AL CENTRAL appears easier than it's been in years.

        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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          @the-gipper said:

          Why would the Indians have the same odds to win the pennant, but much lower odds of winning the WS?

          CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @mjp28 said:

          CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.

          OK...I misspoke.....I meant to say.....why would the Indians have the same odds as Boston to win the AL Pennant....but have much longer odds than Boston to win the WS?

          I can see having longer odds than say the Cubs or Dodgers...but why Boston?

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            @mjp28 said:

            CHI, LAD crowding everybody out even BOS but long way to go. Tribe on TV Saturday & Sunday.

            OK...I misspoke.....I meant to say.....why would the Indians have the same odds as Boston to win the AL Pennant....but have much longer odds than Boston to win the WS?

            I can see having longer odds than say the Cubs or Dodgers...but why Boston?

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            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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            @the-gipper said:

            OK...I misspoke.....I meant to say.....why would the Indians have the same odds as Boston to win the AL Pennant....but have much longer odds than Boston to win the WS?

            I can see having longer odds than say the Cubs or Dodgers...but why Boston?

            I thought that looked strange also but it's just like additional horses in another race plus odds can be affected by the bettors that might be betting unevenly in the AL and WS.

            Plus these numbers can and will change with injuries and unexpectedly hot or cold teams. I was just curious right now in the BOS vs CLE part.

            ....on second thought that's probably it right now Cleveland is the darling pick in the AL moreso than in the WS.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.

                We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.

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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  Well see come All Star break how all these teams are doing. Baseball is a marathon as you all know.

                  We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.

                  No shit, but All star break is a good indicator of whom will make it to the finish.

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    We'll see come like October 1st.....when it really counts. You can't win a Marathon if you only run 13 miles.

                    No shit, but All star break is a good indicator of whom will make it to the finish.

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                    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    No shit, but All star break is a good indicator of whom will make it to the finish.

                    Here’s an old article from Sports Illustrated (2010) for a very general idea of the break teams:

                    .....Here's what 14 full years of Wild-Card Baseball have taught us:

                    • First-place teams should start printing playoff tickets. Teams with an outright division lead of any length at the All-Star break go to the playoffs 73 percent of the time (61 of 83).

                    • Any team with a lead of more than five games is a virtual postseason lock. Only one team led its division at the break by more than five games and didn't make the playoffs: the 2003 Royals, who blew a seven-game lead. Texas holds a 5 1/2-game lead today.

                    • Teams with losing records this deep into the season are toast. Only two sub-.500 teams at the break made the playoffs: the 1997 Astros (43-45) and the 2003 Twins (44-49), who had the luxury of "chasing" the Pirates and Royals, respectively. No team more than five games under .500 at the break has made the postseason......

                    Bad starts can kill a team, even in April or May, Indians fans can remember a few of those. Still there are a few unusual great run examples but you want to be solid coming out of the break.

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                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                      Remember this from 2016?

                      http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/playoff-odds-biggest-risers-and-fallers-for-all-30-mlb-teams-at-all-star-break/

                      6. Cleveland Indians: 52-36

                      Opening Day odds: 68.9%

                      July 11 odds: 96.9%

                      Change: +28.0%

                      The Indians have been around for 115 years now, and earlier this month they managed to set a new franchise record with a 14-game winning streak. They'd never done that before. Led by the baseball's preeminent power rotation -- the Indians have the rotation everyone expected the Mets to have, basically -- the Indians have a comfortable 6 1/2 game lead in the AL Central even though Michael Brantley, their best player, has been limited to 11 games by offseason shoulder surgery and a setback.

                      7. Chicago Cubs: 53-35

                      Opening Day odds: 66.4%

                      July 11 odds: 90.2%

                      Change: +23.8%

                      At one point the Cubs had close to a 100 percent chance to make the playoff according to SportsLine, but their recent slump has knocked them down a bit. In fact, since their insane 25-6 start, the Cubbies are a sub-.500 team (28-29). They're still very good of course, and they're very likely to win the NL Central, but at some point Jason Heyward needs to hit and Jake Arrieta has to snap out of his recent slump.

                      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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