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Mud:

I agree Kessler can't throw.. but he makes up for it by both not being able to run and not having any NFL-level pocket awareness!

Other than that, keep the faith.

You know the old expression.. when you keep doing the same thing that you've been doing, you're sure to win big in 2017!

LondonBrown

Film grades are in from @Allbrightnfl and safe to say he doesn't particularly like any of them

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-SienfT3umX0HKxRyQqyXM9BqHrotdcQA6W-V_pDiY/edit#gid=156597622

Canton Dawg

We're going to find out soon if RGIII is part of the 2017 team or not.

He is due a $750,000 roster bonus on March 11th.

Suomi

@orion said:

(do we know for sure that Kessler isn't the Joe Montana?)

^^^ Exactly.

Suomi

Let's face it - when the discussion turns to quarterbacks Browns fans have a very short fuse. We all want so desperately to have that quality quarterback that can go out and win games. The problem is that we have been hoping for that guy to appear in a Browns uniform for so long that we're not willing to wait for said quarterback to develop. I think that Kessler can evolve into that quarterback. He had the highest QB rating of any rookie quarterback last year not named Prescott or Wentz; he had an assortment of poor offensive linemen trying to protect him, and they didn't; and Cory Coleman, a first round talent, was not available as a target due to injury. Based on all that I think that Kessler did OK. He wasn't great, but he shouldn't have been. He was learning the system on the fly, and based on his performance as a first year player I say he showed a lot of promise.

This draft, moreso than any other in recent memory, has no guaranteed starting-caliber quarterbacks. That's not me saying it, it's the myriad of national so-called "experts" that have made that claim. Why use a first round pick on a quarterback that arguably is not any better than what is currently have on the roster? That would be insanity, which is something I'm happy to see the current front office is avoiding.

Roll with Kessler, get him some protection (Zeitler), welcome Gordon back into the fold, sign Pryor, and take advantage of a stacked defensive draft by selecting defensive players with five of the Browns first six picks (draft OJ Howard at 12)...and the Browns will have the tools to begin their evolution into a winning franchise.

The Gipper

@canton-dawg said:

We're going to find out soon if RGIII is part of the 2017 team or not.

He is due a $750,000 roster bonus on March 11th.

That ain't much in the scheme of things. I predict that they will give that to him. Hue likes him....what else is there to say?

Canton Dawg

He sucks.

Tour2ma

Interesting tweet...

Marc Sessler‏Verified account @MarcSesslerNFL

Browns will 'likely add a young QB and a veteran,' per @MikeSilver. Says Jackson doesn't believe his favorite QB will be there at No. 12.

I was looking thru Silver's tweets for confimation when I found this:

Michael Silver‏Verified account @MikeSilver Mar 1

Michael Silver Retweeted Joe Thomas

Stop being so good at your job and my job

Michael Silver added,

Joe ThomasVerified account @joethomas73

Looks like the Patriots are trying to create leverage for a trade by getting the word out they "are not expected to trade...Garoppolo" https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/836936509173415936 …

LondonBrown

Some good stuff on the quarterback options here

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-combine-qb-prospects-20170302-story.html

Tour2ma

@londonbrown said:

Some good stuff on the quarterback options here

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-combine-qb-prospects-20170302-story.html

Nice, bite-sized takes...

One Trubs' detail I had not caught or seen elsewhere:

"But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball."

Added this little note which supports my little, ingrained habits rant over in Z's Kizer thread.

"Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching."

Flugel

@tour2ma said:

Nice, bite-sized takes...

One Trubs' detail I had not caught or seen elsewhere:

"But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball."

Added this little note which supports my little, ingrained habits rant over in Z's Kizer thread.

"Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching."

Very interesting. Muscle memory is very hard to change which lends credence to what you were saying previously about golf swings. I think Aaron Rodgers alluded to how important muscle memory following some of his clutch sideline throws he makes with poise when he was asked how he accomplished it so often. I imagine this is also applicable with bad habits perfected over time, which could be a concern for guys needing to be de-programed from a spread offense to more of a pocket passing offense.

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

Nice, bite-sized takes...

One Trubs' detail I had not caught or seen elsewhere:

"But he has a flaw that you have to be careful about. When he throws the ball, he locks his front leg. When you do that, you can’t really drive the ball."

Added this little note which supports my little, ingrained habits rant over in Z's Kizer thread.

"Normally, guys that are locked-front-leg throwers, that doesn’t change through coaching."

Except I have seen no trouble with him "driving the ball". He has quick accurate release and a very strong arm.

I am assuming that when someone doesn't "drive the ball" it means he has little Oomph on his throws. That is just not the case here.

I mean, unless a "locked front leg" results in something that does not affect A. Accuracy and B. Velocity......what does it affect? Touch?