Jimmy Garoppolo Speculation

medicineman

I wanted to keep Taylor G and can name a lot of other fans. Just because they are not on this board don't mean they don't exist.

Flugel

@mudfly said:

just like I said last week.....someone points out a deficiency with the current situation, your only answer is Pettine.....

Has zero to do with today.....and just like Gabe had an off season with Pett, he also had a stellar rookie season with pett....I could go on and on about guys who did the same or better....but it has nothing to do with today, so it;'s not relevant...

But "remind" away......(I never liked Flip, btw....just another inexperienced nobody coach coming thru the turnstyle)

HA! If it's not relevant, why attack this staff for Gabriel's regression in 2015? Gabriel never played for this staff so who's getting their regimes wrong?

If you're all bothered that Gabriel and his tiny little catch radius wasn't impressing his position coach Al Saunders from the lack of accuracy of the QBs here in training camp, your perfect regime could have drafted Derek Carr or Jimmy Garapollo in round 2. Let's just pretend there were zero land mines to overcome like you want to do.

This staff got 77 receptions for over 1000 yards out of a first year starter at WR (Pryor). The last staff cut him only to bring him back so late they didn't have the balls to play him.

Of course you're comparing this staff and regime to the previous one. It's all you've been doing whether your cognizant of it or not. If you'd rather stay angry about how much you hate Sashi and Hue - keep on keepin on...

wargograw

@medicineman said:
I wanted to keep Taylor G and can name a lot of other fans. Just because they are not on this board don't mean they don't exist.

Rock solid evidence here.

chimpy07

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chimpy07

Sorry haven't heard Garoppolo mentioned in a while

medicineman

Why would you need evidence? And not to mention it don't matter what I wanted or you or any fan. They are going to do what they think is best, and as for getting rid of Taylor.........ya who looks like the dumbass for cutting him?

medicineman

HA what? You really think keeping Bowe and not Taylor was a great move? You are as smart as Pisspuke fans

Flugel

@medicineman said:
HA what? You really think keeping Bowe and not Taylor was a great move? You are as smart as Pisspuke fans

Who on earth are you talking to? Are you the only one on this board that doesn't know this regime got rid of Dwayne Bowe before they got rid of Taylor Gabriel?

Do you understand the difference between where Atlanta's passing game in 2016 was with an MVP accurate passer and Julio Jones freeing up every other receiver in their offense vrs where we were the last time Taylor Gabriel gave us his reception volume of 28 for only 241 yards at 8.6 yards per catch and zero TD receptions in 2015? He wasn't going in the right direction here no matter how much some of you need to Stephen King this thing. In his 2014 dream season here that he had 36 receptions - who was the WR they benched for the 5 games Josh Gordon returned for? Taylor Gabriel.

I realize absence makes the heart grow fonder; but the sum of FO decisions in our personnel here only had Gabriel averaging half a TD per season during his 2 year tenure here. Do I really need to tell you the QBs we had on this roster weren't about to tap that tiny catch radius any better than the ones here in 2015 could? In his 7 career TD receptions over 3 years, 6 of them were for Atlanta in 2016.

medicineman

The only good vet wr we have ever got from FA was Joe J back in 06, other than that nothing. We have no weapons we have no speed guys, Taylor had some speed but was small. Kenny Britt is a never was. Mark my words he will be hurt 11 out of 16 games.. Fix the oline then get a couple large 6'5 wr. But for the Taylor G? I was just being a troll. It is the off season and I am bored

medicineman

And I am stuck in a hotel on Wheeling Island right now. Don't feel like I want to gamble so I am on here

Tour2ma

@texasag1969 said:
Especially since every pick Tour has made so far for the Browns has been on defense.

Just going where the talent leads me, boss...

@boo-fagley said:
Garropolo needs some decent talent around him. Hes not Jesus.

... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.

@boo-fagley said:
Youre also underestimating Brisset. He stepped in when Garrapolo was hurt and played well just coming off the draft.

And that' somehow not a sign that the Pats offense pumps up a QB's preformance?

Tour2ma

@wargograw said:
I don't know of anyone besides Mud that wanted the Browns to keep Gabriel

I did, too. It's in a thread on 2016 roster cutdowns. You can check if you like.

@mr.-make-believe said:
I wanted to cut Hawkins instead of Gabe.

... and there it is.

D Bone

@tour2ma said:

... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.

You obviously missed his pro day.....

hoorta

@tour2ma said:

... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.

We already had Jesus on the roster- it didn't help.

jiggins7919

I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.

LogicIsForSquares

@jiggins7919 said:
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.

Could be a matter of the Browns trying to work out a potential trade on draft day. Trade back from 12 and get some other draft picks then move the later first rounder to the Pats. Could also be that they have no desire to get Jimmy G.

Tour2ma

@boo-fagley said:
Brisset has been groomed as a QB by Bill Parcell's since he was a teenager.

Wow... and it's been a long time since Bill was a teenager...

LondonBrown

@tour2ma said:

Wow... and it's been a long time since Bill was a teenager...

LOL

hoorta

@jiggins7919 said:
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.

EDIT :

Jiggins- I usually enjoy your takes, but the bolded is laughable. Can you give me one valid reason why we should be "nice" to the Patriots? The NFL is a cut throat business, and if I'm the Browns, I'm giving them as little time as possible to plan.

I've already said it a bunch of times guy. The Browns will thoroughly evaluate the 2017 QB class first. The Browns hold all the high cards in this scenario, NOT the Patriots. We have zero rush to get a trade done, if at all. MHO is Cleveland will wait and see how the draft is unfolding before they MIGHT make a move. You're 100% right the Patriots are in a bad way come draft day- so make 'em sweat. Bill panicked and took Clifford Charlton out of desperation once upon a time.

What you're missing out on- this isn't a seller's market for Garropolo, it's a buyers market. With more draft "cash" available than anyone the Browns can and will set the price for Jimmy- that's if they're even interested. It's curious the media is so gung-ho to get this trade done has ONLY linked Garropolo to the Browns and no one else- for that exact (simplistic) reason. Sashi and company can tell Bill to go pound salt if they think he's asking too much for a backup quarterback who's only thrown 90 some passes and got hurt after 1-1\2 games.

The Gipper

@boo-fagley said:

Right

Who would want a QB like Garrapolo who is smart, can make all throws and reads defenses?

First....you don't really know if he can do all that on more than a temporary basis....and B. even if you think he could do that...at what price?

#52 is my price. Take it or leave it.