Jimmy Garoppolo Speculation
-
*
-
Sorry haven't heard Garoppolo mentioned in a while
-
Why would you need evidence? And not to mention it don't matter what I wanted or you or any fan. They are going to do what they think is best, and as for getting rid of Taylor.........ya who looks like the dumbass for cutting him?
-
HA what? You really think keeping Bowe and not Taylor was a great move? You are as smart as Pisspuke fans
-
HA what? You really think keeping Bowe and not Taylor was a great move? You are as smart as Pisspuke fans
HA what? You really think keeping Bowe and not Taylor was a great move? You are as smart as Pisspuke fans
Who on earth are you talking to? Are you the only one on this board that doesn't know this regime got rid of Dwayne Bowe before they got rid of Taylor Gabriel?
Do you understand the difference between where Atlanta's passing game in 2016 was with an MVP accurate passer and Julio Jones freeing up every other receiver in their offense vrs where we were the last time Taylor Gabriel gave us his reception volume of 28 for only 241 yards at 8.6 yards per catch and zero TD receptions in 2015? He wasn't going in the right direction here no matter how much some of you need to Stephen King this thing. In his 2014 dream season here that he had 36 receptions - who was the WR they benched for the 5 games Josh Gordon returned for? Taylor Gabriel.
I realize absence makes the heart grow fonder; but the sum of FO decisions in our personnel here only had Gabriel averaging half a TD per season during his 2 year tenure here. Do I really need to tell you the QBs we had on this roster weren't about to tap that tiny catch radius any better than the ones here in 2015 could? In his 7 career TD receptions over 3 years, 6 of them were for Atlanta in 2016.
-
The only good vet wr we have ever got from FA was Joe J back in 06, other than that nothing. We have no weapons we have no speed guys, Taylor had some speed but was small. Kenny Britt is a never was. Mark my words he will be hurt 11 out of 16 games.. Fix the oline then get a couple large 6'5 wr. But for the Taylor G? I was just being a troll. It is the off season and I am bored
-
And I am stuck in a hotel on Wheeling Island right now. Don't feel like I want to gamble so I am on here
-
I'm guessing at least one of those words would be fuck.
WSS
Especially since every pick Tour has made so far for the Browns has been on defense.
"I got my mind right boss."-Tour
Especially since every pick Tour has made so far for the Browns has been on defense.
Just going where the talent leads me, boss...
@boo-fagley said:
Garropolo needs some decent talent around him. Hes not Jesus.
... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.
@boo-fagley said:
Youre also underestimating Brisset. He stepped in when Garrapolo was hurt and played well just coming off the draft.
And that' somehow not a sign that the Pats offense pumps up a QB's preformance?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't know of anyone besides Mud that wanted the Browns to keep Gabriel
I did, too. It's in a thread on 2016 roster cutdowns. You can check if you like.
I wanted to cut Hawkins instead of Gabe.
... and there it is.
-
Especially since every pick Tour has made so far for the Browns has been on defense.
Just going where the talent leads me, boss...
@boo-fagley said:
Garropolo needs some decent talent around him. Hes not Jesus.
... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.
@boo-fagley said:
Youre also underestimating Brisset. He stepped in when Garrapolo was hurt and played well just coming off the draft.
And that' somehow not a sign that the Pats offense pumps up a QB's preformance?
-
Especially since every pick Tour has made so far for the Browns has been on defense.
Just going where the talent leads me, boss...
@boo-fagley said:
Garropolo needs some decent talent around him. Hes not Jesus.
... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.
@boo-fagley said:
Youre also underestimating Brisset. He stepped in when Garrapolo was hurt and played well just coming off the draft.
And that' somehow not a sign that the Pats offense pumps up a QB's preformance?
... and I wouldn't trade those four #2's for Jesus.
We already had Jesus on the roster- it didn't help.
-
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.
-
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.
Could be a matter of the Browns trying to work out a potential trade on draft day. Trade back from 12 and get some other draft picks then move the later first rounder to the Pats. Could also be that they have no desire to get Jimmy G.
-
@boo-fagley said:
Brisset has been groomed as a QB by Bill Parcell's since he was a teenager.
Wow... and it's been a long time since Bill was a teenager...
-
@boo-fagley said:
Brisset has been groomed as a QB by Bill Parcell's since he was a teenager.
Wow... and it's been a long time since Bill was a teenager...
-
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.
EDIT :
Jiggins- I usually enjoy your takes, but the bolded is laughable. Can you give me one valid reason why we should be "nice" to the Patriots? The NFL is a cut throat business, and if I'm the Browns, I'm giving them as little time as possible to plan.
I've already said it a bunch of times guy. The Browns will thoroughly evaluate the 2017 QB class first. The Browns hold all the high cards in this scenario, NOT the Patriots. We have zero rush to get a trade done, if at all. MHO is Cleveland will wait and see how the draft is unfolding before they MIGHT make a move. You're 100% right the Patriots are in a bad way come draft day- so make 'em sweat. Bill panicked and took Clifford Charlton out of desperation once upon a time.
What you're missing out on- this isn't a seller's market for Garropolo, it's a buyers market. With more draft "cash" available than anyone the Browns can and will set the price for Jimmy- that's if they're even interested. It's curious the media is so gung-ho to get this trade done has ONLY linked Garropolo to the Browns and no one else- for that exact (simplistic) reason. Sashi and company can tell Bill to go pound salt if they think he's asking too much for a backup quarterback who's only thrown 90 some passes and got hurt after 1-1\2 games.
-
@boo-fagley said:
Right
Who would want a QB like Garrapolo who is smart, can make all throws and reads defenses?
First....you don't really know if he can do all that on more than a temporary basis....and B. even if you think he could do that...at what price?
#52 is my price. Take it or leave it.
-
I'm still pretty sure the trade for JG is going to happen, but my concern about it is...why hasn't it happened? In my mind, the Patriots would want to know where they're picking for the upcoming draft. They would want as much time as possible to plan, evaluate, and scheme it up. As of right now, they don't even HAVE a first or second round pick in a draft that is heavy on defensive talent. The Patriots are in NEED of defensive talent. I'm a little concerned that there basically is ZERO chatter regarding this trade scenario, but then again, that doesn't mean anything.
EDIT :
Jiggins- I usually enjoy your takes, but the bolded is laughable. Can you give me one valid reason why we should be "nice" to the Patriots? The NFL is a cut throat business, and if I'm the Browns, I'm giving them as little time as possible to plan.
I've already said it a bunch of times guy. The Browns will thoroughly evaluate the 2017 QB class first. The Browns hold all the high cards in this scenario, NOT the Patriots. We have zero rush to get a trade done, if at all. MHO is Cleveland will wait and see how the draft is unfolding before they MIGHT make a move. You're 100% right the Patriots are in a bad way come draft day- so make 'em sweat. Bill panicked and took Clifford Charlton out of desperation once upon a time.
What you're missing out on- this isn't a seller's market for Garropolo, it's a buyers market. With more draft "cash" available than anyone the Browns can and will set the price for Jimmy- that's if they're even interested. It's curious the media is so gung-ho to get this trade done has ONLY linked Garropolo to the Browns and no one else- for that exact (simplistic) reason. Sashi and company can tell Bill to go pound salt if they think he's asking too much for a backup quarterback who's only thrown 90 some passes and got hurt after 1-1\2 games.
I've already said it a bunch of times guy. The Browns will thoroughly evaluate the 2017 QB class first. The Browns hold all the high cards in this scenario, NOT the Patriots. We have zero rush to get a trade done, if at all. MHO is Cleveland will wait and see how the draft is unfolding before they MIGHT make a move. You're 100% right the Patriots are in a bad way come draft day- so make 'em sweat. Bill panicked and took Clifford Charlton out of desperation once upon a time.
What you're missing out on- this isn't a seller's market for Garropolo, it's a buyers market. With more draft "cash" available than anyone the Browns can and will set the price for Jimmy- that's if they're even interested. It's curious the media is so gung-ho to get this trade done has ONLY linked Garropolo to the Browns and no one else- for that exact (simplistic) reason. Sashi and company can tell Bill to go pound salt if they think he's asking too much for a backup quarterback who's only thrown 90 some passes and got hurt after 1-1\2 games.
Nailed it
-
@boo-fagley said:
Right
Who would want a QB like Garrapolo who is smart, can make all throws and reads defenses?
First....you don't really know if he can do all that on more than a temporary basis....and B. even if you think he could do that...at what price?
#52 is my price. Take it or leave it.
@boo-fagley said:
Right
Who would want a QB like Garrapolo who is smart, can make all throws and reads defenses?
Gee, why don't you ask the 49ers, Bears, and Jets the same question? The media (and some Patriot fans) are looking with tunnel vision at the Golden Fruit Tree of multiple draft picks Cleveland and no one else has, hoping the Browns will be stupid enough to gift a bunch of them to the Patriots. You may have noticed Boo- Sashi didn't overpay for Pryor- though it can be argued he was more of an immediate need than a "right now" qb. He sure as hell isn't paying more than market value for a backup qb that might have starter potential. And have to sign him to a long term contract with at least top 50% qb money. Taking a qb at #12 is looking better and cheaper by the day.
First....you don't really know if he can do all that on more than a temporary basis....and B. even if you think he could do that...at what price?
#52 is my price. Take it or leave it.
Nailed it Gip- we've both been saying that from the get-go. We'll even throw the Brockstrich in and pick up $10 million of his salary, but that may reduce our offer.
-
@boo-fagley said:
Garroplo will never go the Jets. Ridiculous. The Bears already have Glennon which was a stupid move. He sucks. What did the 49ers offer? Do you know?
Sashi hoarding his cap money and draft picks is unlikely to produce wins sooner than later. Weak QB draft with the usual Russian roulette choices at QB.
Agreed, Bill isn't stupid enough to trade Garropolo in the division to the Jets. Browns aren't in a "win now" mode either. You're just reiterating media dumbspeak, if you think Jimmy is our only option. Just said it in the original post- "Browns lots of picks- New England needs picks". Aw shucks, the Browns have out maneuvered the Patriots in amassing draft picks and cap room. But, but- it's SO obvious- no it isn't. Already said it- the Browns aren't paying more than market value for a BACKUP QB, regardless of what the media or Patriot fans think. If we want to blow some cap room and draft picks, I'll spend it on a guy like Kirk Cousins- happens to be 10X the proven commodity than Garropolo, and I dare you to say otherwise. I don't know (neither does anyone else) what Sashi and DePo's opinion of Garropolo is, but I'm confident of this- unless they see Jimmy as the next Aaron Rodgers- you're not getting any more than (a) second round pick for his services.
Jimmy isn't Russian Roulette? Har, har- if he isn't- go keep him as your backup when Brady gets hurt. Hate to break it to you but JG definitely IS. After how many New England backups have flamed out? It's going to be different this time? He's got a smaller resume than Matt Cassell. This particular Browns fan has seen the media hype over New England backup qbs too many times to get sucked in again. Us Cleveland fans saw what can happen after defensive coordinators get a handle on a qb- like Derek Anderson. Pro Bowl to toilet bowl.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login