Mock the Englishman, VERSION 2.0
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It would not disturb me at all to get 3 defenders in the 1st round, if OJ is gone by 12.
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I get the feeling that Greg Williams can motivate him. Williams even stated himself that he feels his purpose in life is to teach young men, especially the ones that are difficult to deal with. Furthermore Malik's "motor concerns" seem largely overblown to me as he played very well against high level competition like Ramcyk and McGlinchey.McDowell? No dude. We can't motivate him
One of the main problems is that McDowell was the only player on that defense worth a squirt of piss. Playing with guys like Shelton, Ogbah, Garrett, Collins and Kirksey would defiiitely help him out.
Voch Lombardi believes that McDowell is a better prospect than Solomon Thomas, and after watching a couple of videos on the subject, he makes a very convincing argument by just showing the game tape. Malik is a freak athlete with size who can play all over the line. Dude never gives up ground and in the right situation can be a force of a nature.
Garrett at 1 McDowell at 12 is something I wouldn't hate in the least. Garret -McDowell-Shelton-Ogbah-Bryant-Meder-Collins-Kirksey--let's go rupture Worthlessberger's cervix.
I get the feeling that Greg Williams can motivate him. Williams even stated himself that he feels his purpose in life is to teach young men, especially the ones that are difficult to deal with. Furthermore Malik's "motor concerns" seem largely overblown to me as he played very well against high level competition like Ramcyk and McGlinchey.
One of the main problems is that McDowell was the only player on that defense worth a squirt of piss. Playing with guys like Shelton, Ogbah, Garrett, Collins and Kirksey would defiiitely help him out.
Voch Lombardi believes that McDowell is a better prospect than Solomon Thomas, and after watching a couple of videos on the subject, he makes a very convincing argument by just showing the game tape. Malik is a freak athlete with size who can play all over the line. Dude never gives up ground and in the right situation can be a force of a nature.
Garrett at 1 McDowell at 12 is something I wouldn't hate in the least. Garret -McDowell-Shelton-Ogbah-Bryant-Meder-Collins-Kirksey--let's go rupture Worthlessberger's cervix.
Isn't McDowell pretty strictly a DT, where Thomas is a DE?
Nevertheless, as I mentioned, DT is, to me, a higher priority than DE give the dearth that we have at the DT spot relative to DE. While sure, it never hurts to get a great player, even at a position of surplus, you stilll need to fill the other holes on your team. And to me DT is a hole.
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It would not disturb me at all to get 3 defenders in the 1st round, if OJ is gone by 12.
It would not disturb me at all to get 3 defenders in the 1st round, if OJ is gone by 12.
How do you get 3 players with only 2 picks? Unless you do a trade.
And, presuming you don't want to trade #1, where are you going to get someone to give you 2 first round picks for #12?
(Or are you talking about trading up from #33 to low in the first round?)
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It would not disturb me at all to get 3 defenders in the 1st round, if OJ is gone by 12.
How do you get 3 players with only 2 picks? Unless you do a trade.
And, presuming you don't want to trade #1, where are you going to get someone to give you 2 first round picks for #12?
(Or are you talking about trading up from #33 to low in the first round?)
How do you get 3 players with only 2 picks? Unless you do a trade.
And, presuming you don't want to trade #1, where are you going to get someone to give you 2 first round picks for #12?
(Or are you talking about trading up from #33 to low in the first round?)
Yep-the trade up into the 18-21 level. Use some of those late rounders we waste anyway.
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How do you get 3 players with only 2 picks? Unless you do a trade.
And, presuming you don't want to trade #1, where are you going to get someone to give you 2 first round picks for #12?
(Or are you talking about trading up from #33 to low in the first round?)
Yep-the trade up into the 18-21 level. Use some of those late rounders we waste anyway.
Yep-the trade up into the 18-21 level. Use some of those late rounders we waste anyway.
Lets see if they can use some of that "currency" weve heard so much about and actually trade up for quality, instead of trading back for shit + more currency.....
(and Im not talking about trading 1st and 2nd round picks....lets see some 4th - 5th -6th rounds picks turn into a good player......)
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Yep-the trade up into the 18-21 level. Use some of those late rounders we waste anyway.
Lets see if they can use some of that "currency" weve heard so much about and actually trade up for quality, instead of trading back for shit + more currency.....
(and Im not talking about trading 1st and 2nd round picks....lets see some 4th - 5th -6th rounds picks turn into a good player......)
Lets see if they can use some of that "currency" weve heard so much about and actually trade up for quality, instead of trading back for shit + more currency.....
(and Im not talking about trading 1st and 2nd round picks....lets see some 4th - 5th -6th rounds picks turn into a good player......)
A man a plan Panama!
I think that's a good plan.
If they take Garrett #1, use some of that capital to move up to get the QB they need.
And/or move back up into the end of round one and get 3 hopeful first round studs.
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Yep-the trade up into the 18-21 level. Use some of those late rounders we waste anyway.
Lets see if they can use some of that "currency" weve heard so much about and actually trade up for quality, instead of trading back for shit + more currency.....
(and Im not talking about trading 1st and 2nd round picks....lets see some 4th - 5th -6th rounds picks turn into a good player......)
Lets see if they can use some of that "currency" weve heard so much about and actually trade up for quality, instead of trading back for shit + more currency.....
(and Im not talking about trading 1st and 2nd round picks....lets see some 4th - 5th -6th rounds picks turn into a good player......)
Ummmm... isn't R4/5/6 prime trade-back, bonus-pick territory?
Actually we've plenty of R5/6.... R3/4 is where we could stand to fill a couple long waits. I can easily see us trading down 3.01 (#65) overnite, Friday night to do a little filling... maybe even packaging it with 4.01.
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Wasn't my intended direction of movement, which was down in the 3rd and 4th, but for the right player...
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If we do any trading down I'd want ammunition for 2018 so we can move up for a QB since we will be 8-8. Right?
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If we do any trading down I'd want ammunition for 2018 so we can move up for a QB since we will be 8-8. Right?
If we do any trading down I'd want ammunition for 2018 so we can move up for a QB since we will be 8-8. Right?
At least...
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Wasn't my intended direction of movement, which was down in the 3rd and 4th, but for the right player...
Wasn't my intended direction of movement, which was down in the 3rd and 4th, but for the right player...
Now...see.....I cant get with moving down and adding more picks.....especially late ones......I honestly think too many picks too many years ina row dilutes the team and doesnt allow for proper evaluation or development....would much rather consolidate those later picks and get fewer(better) players.....
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Wasn't my intended direction of movement, which was down in the 3rd and 4th, but for the right player...
Now...see.....I cant get with moving down and adding more picks.....especially late ones......I honestly think too many picks too many years ina row dilutes the team and doesnt allow for proper evaluation or development....would much rather consolidate those later picks and get fewer(better) players.....
Now...see.....I cant get with moving down and adding more picks.....especially late ones......I honestly think too many picks too many years ina row dilutes the team and doesnt allow for proper evaluation or development....would much rather consolidate those later picks and get fewer(better) players.....
So if you add a couple picks late, then you forego a couple UDFAs.
Camp is limited to 90... I see some decent, 4th-5th-6th round prospects, but precious little in the 7th which infers the UDFA class will be weaker than usual.
At a minimum I could see trading either 6.01 or 6.04 for a midling and late 6th. Boards are so scattered by that stage you can probably land your 6.04 guy in the 6.15-6.20 range and still pocket a 6th round Comp... a Comp that could even end up being worth a late, 2018 5th to someone.
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6th round?.....have at it......
4th and earlier......use our picks or move up.....
For me...instead of getting an extra 6th.....Id rather use that 6th to turn my 4th into a late 3rd.....or a 5th into a 4th...etc...
Again.....with the 22 young uns we brought in last year....plus, what? another 15-20 coming this year?....how do we play and evaluate all those players?......especially if it takes a min 2 years to see what you have?....
I dont want to flood our roster with a huge pile of late rounders that we are forced to keep around for evaluation, playing time, etc...so, I say consolidate those15 players to 8 higher percentage players.....
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6th round?.....have at it......
4th and earlier......use our picks or move up.....
For me...instead of getting an extra 6th.....Id rather use that 6th to turn my 4th into a late 3rd.....or a 5th into a 4th...etc...
Again.....with the 22 young uns we brought in last year....plus, what? another 15-20 coming this year?....how do we play and evaluate all those players?......especially if it takes a min 2 years to see what you have?....
I dont want to flood our roster with a huge pile of late rounders that we are forced to keep around for evaluation, playing time, etc...so, I say consolidate those15 players to 8 higher percentage players.....
....how do we play and evaluate all those players?......especially if it takes a min 2 years to see what you have?....I dont want to flood our roster with a huge pile of late rounders that we are forced to keep around for evaluation, playing time, etc...so, I say consolidate those15 players to 8 higher percentage players.....
But, again, we're going into camp with 90... plus PUPs, so the number of youngsters, i.e., the evaluation/projection load, is not going to vary. You can argue you'd focus more upon, play your fewer, higher-taken guys, guys who you are likely going to assign a lower "stick" threshold and thus get more data over more time anyway, but then odds increase that the potential of one of lesser players you sign to fill out your camp eludes you.
How to evaluate them all? Coaching staff breaking down everything... scouts evaluating scrimmage and preseason tape... analytic data generation and crunching...
As for concentrating picks... that simply flies in the face of analytics. The odds of hitting upon one of two 25%-ers > one of one 40%-ers.
#castawidenet... and if you understood that, then you know tweets...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
....how do we play and evaluate all those players?......especially if it takes a min 2 years to see what you have?....
I dont want to flood our roster with a huge pile of late rounders that we are forced to keep around for evaluation, playing time, etc...so, I say consolidate those15 players to 8 higher percentage players.....
But, again, we're going into camp with 90... plus PUPs, so the number of youngsters, i.e., the evaluation/projection load, is not going to vary. You can argue you'd focus more upon, play your fewer, higher-taken guys, guys who you are likely going to assign a lower "stick" threshold and thus get more data over more time anyway, but then odds increase that the potential of one of lesser players you sign to fill out your camp eludes you.
How to evaluate them all? Coaching staff breaking down everything... scouts evaluating scrimmage and preseason tape... analytic data generation and crunching...
As for concentrating picks... that simply flies in the face of analytics. The odds of hitting upon one of two 25%-ers > one of one 40%-ers.
#castawidenet... and if you understood that, then you know tweets...
But, again, we're going into camp with 90... plus PUPs, so the number of youngsters, i.e., the evaluation/projection load, is not going to vary. You can argue you'd focus more upon, play your fewer, higher-taken guys, guys who you are likely going to assign a lower "stick" threshold and thus get more data over more time anyway, but then odds increase that the potential of one of lesser players you sign to fill out your camp eludes you.
How to evaluate them all? Coaching staff breaking down everything... scouts evaluating scrimmage and preseason tape... analytic data generation and crunching...
As for concentrating picks... that simply flies in the face of analytics. The odds of hitting upon one of two 25%-ers > one of one 40%-ers.
#castawidenet... and if you understood that, then you know tweets...
You know we did that last year and ended up cutting/keeping a lot of the wrong guys......you do realize they kept every single player they drafted, right?.....and thats NOT because they deemed them the best players....it's because they wanted to keep and evaluate their guys....
Which forced them to cut some of the wrong guys.....and vets who could have helped this team....
It'll happen again this year......
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McDowell? No dude. We can't motivate him
He's revealed himself to be a flat earther that believes in aliens. Looks like mock 3.0 will be different
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McDowell? No dude. We can't motivate him
He's revealed himself to be a flat earther that believes in aliens. Looks like mock 3.0 will be different
He's revealed himself to be a flat earther that believes in aliens. Looks like mock 3.0 will be different
Just like Kyrie
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Conley visiting the Jags and Jets jeez he could be long gone by 12
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Conley visiting the Jags and Jets jeez he could be long gone by 12
I'm ok with that.Conley visiting the Jags and Jets jeez he could be long gone by 12
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