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  • Well I don't want to bring up job security for Hue but this is just another check AGAINST Jackson. Not that I feel like its even a big deal if we let Hue go at this point most of his Hand Picked staff has been replaced already. Combine that with the fact we have Williams on staff who is a more than adequate replacement.

    But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."

    Of all the players we drafted in these past 2 drafts he is the only one that really stands out against the rest.

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    He always is on the money.

    uh well no considering that reference was to Watson
  • All this stuff about division gets blown out of proportion. I've chaired a lot of meetings to develop processes, structure proposal etc. Very rarely are you going to have concencus on every decision. Sure you do sometimes but it's the exception not the rule. At the end of the day being a professional is about moving past it and getting on board.

  • Well I don't want to bring up job security for Hue but this is just another check AGAINST Jackson. Not that I feel like its even a big deal if we let Hue go at this point most of his Hand Picked staff has been replaced already. Combine that with the fact we have Williams on staff who is a more than adequate replacement.

    But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."

    Of all the players we drafted in these past 2 drafts he is the only one that really stands out against the rest.

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Well I don't want to bring up job security for Hue but this is just another check AGAINST Jackson. Not that I feel like its even a big deal if we let Hue go at this point most of his Hand Picked staff has been replaced already. Combine that with the fact we have Williams on staff who is a more than adequate replacement.

    But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."

    Of all the players we drafted in these past 2 drafts he is the only one that really stands out against the rest.

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

    But if we had taken Davis loser Webb Hue's job would be secure. Makes sense.

  • Well I don't want to bring up job security for Hue but this is just another check AGAINST Jackson. Not that I feel like its even a big deal if we let Hue go at this point most of his Hand Picked staff has been replaced already. Combine that with the fact we have Williams on staff who is a more than adequate replacement.

    But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."

    Of all the players we drafted in these past 2 drafts he is the only one that really stands out against the rest.

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

    Cmon man....Hue doesnt pound tables and the FO wouldnt defer to his choices(if he did).....completely ridiculous....this is on Shashi and Depo...

    And yes...I agree 100% that Hue is no talent evaluator....which is why Im certain he's not the influence that pushed this pick thru.....

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

    Cmon man....Hue doesnt pound tables and the FO wouldnt defer to his choices(if he did).....completely ridiculous....this is on Shashi and Depo...

    And yes...I agree 100% that Hue is no talent evaluator....which is why Im certain he's not the influence that pushed this pick thru.....

    @mudfly said:

    Cmon man....Hue doesnt pound tables and the FO wouldnt defer to his choices(if he did).....completely ridiculous....this is on Shashi and Depo...

    And yes...I agree 100% that Hue is no talent evaluator....which is why Im certain he's not the influence that pushed this pick thru.....

    Any explanation on why this pick does not Follow any of the patterns that the browns have drafted in the previous drafts then?

    Kizer is an anomaly when the data is compared side by side.

  • @mudfly said:

    Cmon man....Hue doesnt pound tables and the FO wouldnt defer to his choices(if he did).....completely ridiculous....this is on Shashi and Depo...

    And yes...I agree 100% that Hue is no talent evaluator....which is why Im certain he's not the influence that pushed this pick thru.....

    Any explanation on why this pick does not Follow any of the patterns that the browns have drafted in the previous drafts then?

    Kizer is an anomaly when the data is compared side by side.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Any explanation on why this pick does not Follow any of the patterns that the browns have drafted in the previous drafts then?

    Kizer is an anomaly when the data is compared side by side.

    Um....what patterns....this FO has one previous draft under its belt and they have repeated that...almost exactly....

    Trade back in the first....use that to pick a questionable player at a position we dont desperately need.....then burn a top round pick on a less than good QB prospect....whats different?

  • Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

  • Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

    Different strokes for different folks.....that will never change.....

  • So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.

    Again, I hope so.....Tarkenton only took his team to 3 Super Bowls, and at one time he was the most prolific passer in NFL history until he got surpassed by guys that came after the rules to aid the passing game and making it harder on defenses came along.

  • Well I don't want to bring up job security for Hue but this is just another check AGAINST Jackson. Not that I feel like its even a big deal if we let Hue go at this point most of his Hand Picked staff has been replaced already. Combine that with the fact we have Williams on staff who is a more than adequate replacement.

    But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."

    Of all the players we drafted in these past 2 drafts he is the only one that really stands out against the rest.

    Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."

    I keep reading that Kizer is "inaccurate", but... he's a career 60.7% passer with a 148 rating and a 2.5:1 TD to INT ratio... and that's after a "bad" 2016 season on a bad team.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well I have been of the opinion all along to build this D and forget the QB in the weak class.

    And you've had plenty of company in that opinion, Ag...

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Kizer is known for his feet.

    1000-yds in two seasons gets you "known" today?

  • Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

    I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much. 🙂

  • @cambridgeho said:

    Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

    I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much. 🙂

    we're going to need a decent back up for next year's QB
  • @cambridgeho said:

    Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.

    I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much. 🙂

    The latter does not preclude the former...

  • Pretty bad article. Clearly agenda driven. Not worth putting much stock into.

  • So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.

    Without the accuracy and with the bad attitude.

    Shit.

    WSS

  • So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.

    Without the accuracy and with the bad attitude.

    Shit.

    WSS

  • Fat ass you just called a guy who has yet to play a single snap in the nfl who only played like 13 college games for North Carolina no less, hall of fame bound. If you had any credibility you would have lost it right there.

  • hate the kizer pick BUT also thought the cowboys picking prescott was whack.

    not all of us 'genious' fans know everything about everything, unless of course, you wanna know about pussy..........

    just sayin. #'s in da book.