Most Overrated "Star" In Football
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What an odd statement. Didn't know we were rated@boo-fagley said:
Pearls of wisdom from the most overrated poster on the board.
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Who in the shit is dumb enough to say JJ Watt?
With a backup of Andrew Luck. The kid that took a 1 win team to the playoffs his rookie year before a dearth of weapons and Oline play got him killed.
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I actually agree with JJ. Don't get me wrong, he is a great player, but instead of going with a second tier player and calling him a star that's overrated, I think he qualifies. Houston basically sacrifices the players around him so he can get the stats. I have heard it mentioned by several ex nfl d-lineman that a lot of players in the league would have better stats if they were allowed to do whatever they wanted to get to the qb without any lane responsibilities. We got one of their ex lineman last year and they asked him about it and he just said "no comment". Plus as far as the elite pass rushers go, he seems to get a lot more sacks of the variety where the qb gets flushed right into him. Not saying he isn't great, just don't think he is a good like most seem to think.
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Who in the shit is dumb enough to say JJ Watt?
With a backup of Andrew Luck. The kid that took a 1 win team to the playoffs his rookie year before a dearth of weapons and Oline play got him killed.
Who in the shit is dumb enough to say JJ Watt?
With a backup of Andrew Luck. The kid that took a 1 win team to the playoffs his rookie year before a dearth of weapons and Oline play got him killed.
Psst When they won a single game they were sandbagging. Remember?
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@boo-fagley said:
JJ Watt
His picture is on milk cartons after big games. Showboat, dancing, Herman Munster, look at me axxhole in regular season games. Hey Dipshit, you are getting paid millions to go out and make plays. Cant stand watching a Texans game because the commentary drones on ad naseum about his life and what he had for breakfast.
If I am not mistaken, Ford Motor company builds a Texas pickup truck so his beloved fans can drive around Houston worshiping this clown.
Texas edition pick up trucks have been around far longer than JJW.
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Psst When they won a single game they were sandbagging. Remember?
WSS
Tell that to Curtis Painter.
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I actually agree with JJ. Don't get me wrong, he is a great player, but instead of going with a second tier player and calling him a star that's overrated, I think he qualifies. Houston basically sacrifices the players around him so he can get the stats. I have heard it mentioned by several ex nfl d-lineman that a lot of players in the league would have better stats if they were allowed to do whatever they wanted to get to the qb without any lane responsibilities. We got one of their ex lineman last year and they asked him about it and he just said "no comment". Plus as far as the elite pass rushers go, he seems to get a lot more sacks of the variety where the qb gets flushed right into him. Not saying he isn't great, just don't think he is a good like most seem to think.
Pretty sure Painter was painfully aware of the circumstances... as was Kerry Collins' 39-yo body...
... and pssst... those Colts won two of their last three games...
@boo-fagley said:
Ghoolie is the King. Never be another.
I'd say that was confirmation...
Houston basically sacrifices the players around him so he can get the stats.
League history is full of Defensive stars that that were so great their "freelancing" was green-lighted...
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Andrew Luck.
The perennial go to guy for the argument that so and so is no andrew luck.
WSS
+1Andrew Luck.
The perennial go to guy for the argument that so and so is no andrew luck.
WSS
Also overused,"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft".Really ? What ever reason/excuse people want to use, Lucks not who I would reference for #1 sure fire success until I've actually seen it.
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+1Andrew Luck.
The perennial go to guy for the argument that so and so is no andrew luck.
WSS
Also overused,"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft".Really ? What ever reason/excuse people want to use, Lucks not who I would reference for #1 sure fire success until I've actually seen it.
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Also overused,"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft".Really ? What ever reason/excuse people want to use, Lucks not who I would reference for #1 sure fire success until I've actually seen it.
Cam Newton instead? At least he took his team to a Superbowl.
In fact, in the history of football drafts, the following players who were #1 overall picks at QB are the ones that have taken their team to a championship game:
Joe Namath AFL draft
Terry Bradshaw
Jim Plunkett
John Elway
Troy Aikman
Drew Bledsoe #
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Cam Newton #
Each of these players won a title except those marked # whose team lost in their only title game appearance (so far..in Newton's case)
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I like Cam Newton but he's at the top of my just because of the "star" part of the question.
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"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft" is in reference to him coming out of college not what he's done in the NFL.
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My overrated stars would be Eli Manning and Andy Dalton.....
and, instead of JJ Watt, how about his counter part Clowney....?....
My overrated stars would be Eli Manning and Andy Dalton.....
and, instead of JJ Watt, how about his counter part Clowney....?....
I'd have Manning as the most overrated football player but the star thing has me going elsewhere. Has Eli done a commercial without Peyton? And that is a serious question, not being sarcastic.
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bent rapistbooger. tosses a 7 yard lob yo a wide open ant brown and squealer "fans" think he's Y. A. Tittle
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bent rapistbooger. tosses a 7 yard lob yo a wide open ant brown and squealer "fans" think he's Y. A. Tittle
bent rapistbooger. tosses a 7 yard lob yo a wide open ant brown and squealer "fans" think he's Y. A. Tittle
I don't think Ben is overrated. Look how bad they are without him. He might not be pin-point accurate but I think of him as a top 5 qb in the league. Off the top of my head only Brady (ughh) and Rodgers are the only ones I would take over him.
My overrated stars would be Eli Manning and Andy Dalton.....
and, instead of JJ Watt, how about his counter part Clowney....?....
Clowney is still considered by many to be a bust, so how can he be an overrated "star". I think most have an optimistic outlook on him though as he has shown flashes, but he needs to show he can stay healthy. He is a big name because of his measurables, but nfl star, not so much.
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"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft" is in reference to him coming out of college not what he's done in the NFL.
And what would be the purpose of this evaluation ? The whole "Luck" phenomena was projected NFL success. If not, who the hell would WANT to be the next "Andrew Luck" ?....or does being the "Andrew Luck of the draft" now mean, pouting, beat up and underperforming.....for whatever reason/excuse."there's no Andrew Luck in this draft" is in reference to him coming out of college not what he's done in the NFL.
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Nominating JJ Watt as the most overrated star in the NFL is a clear indication of the poster's 1) lack of understanding of the game, and 2) thinly veiled hatred of the man. Damn boy, the guy is no Rapistberger.
I'd take 11 JJ Watts on defense and be happy to annually lead the league in fewest points allowed.
As far as the most overrated star I'd have to throw our very own Joe Haden into the mix. Following a season where he was anointed as one of the league's best shut down corners and rewarded with a huge contract reflecting that skill he hasn't been on the field enough to make a positive impact, let alone live up to his contract. His injuries have also apparently affected his play as he has only been a shell of himself when he's on the field. I love the guy and I sport his jersey on Sundays, but a star in the league he is not.
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