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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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    Ahhh the ngr boogeyman is behind this clearly. Ur infantile little minds really relish that fantasy don't they?

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      "deep state" "shadow govt."

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        oh and i love how the Trump admin hiring impeachment consultants is somehow normal for any administration. They're getting ready for the inevitable.

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        @clevfan4life said:

        oh and i love how the Trump admin hiring impeachment consultants is somehow normal for any administration. They're getting ready for the inevitable.

        Wise move. Many dems have made no bones about wanting to impeach Trump right after he won. And no the Trump Derangement Syndrome on the left with their irrational hatred of Trump should not be normal but that is how the left rolls today.

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          Did obama ever hire impeachment lawyers when half the country was calling for it cause he was a secret mooslim plant? He didnt, cause he wasnt. Trump js hiring impeachment lawyers prob because he sees republicans getting awful squirmy with each new revelation

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            @clevfan4life said:

            oh and i love how the Trump admin hiring impeachment consultants is somehow normal for any administration. They're getting ready for the inevitable.

            Wise move. Many dems have made no bones about wanting to impeach Trump right after he won. And no the Trump Derangement Syndrome on the left with their irrational hatred of Trump should not be normal but that is how the left rolls today.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            Wise move. Many dems have made no bones about wanting to impeach Trump right after he won. And no the Trump Derangement Syndrome on the left with their irrational hatred of Trump should not be normal but that is how the left rolls today.

            Holy shit did you just forget anything that happened the last 8 years?

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              Wise move. Many dems have made no bones about wanting to impeach Trump right after he won. And no the Trump Derangement Syndrome on the left with their irrational hatred of Trump should not be normal but that is how the left rolls today.

              Holy shit did you just forget anything that happened the last 8 years?

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              Holy shit did you just forget anything that happened the last 8 years?

              Is that a rhetorical question?

              Lol

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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                Wise move. Many dems have made no bones about wanting to impeach Trump right after he won. And no the Trump Derangement Syndrome on the left with their irrational hatred of Trump should not be normal but that is how the left rolls today.

                Holy shit did you just forget anything that happened the last 8 years?

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                @mld-woody said:

                Holy shit did you just forget anything that happened the last 8 years?

                I remember the last 8 years very well with the corrupt liberal media downplaying or not even reporting many times the real scandals out of the Obama administration. Trump doesn't have that luxury with the corrupt media who are just a branch of the DNC who are out to hang him.

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                  Did obama ever hire impeachment lawyers when half the country was calling for it cause he was a secret mooslim plant? He didnt, cause he wasnt. Trump js hiring impeachment lawyers prob because he sees republicans getting awful squirmy with each new revelation

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Did obama ever hire impeachment lawyers when half the country was calling for it cause he was a secret mooslim plant? He didnt, cause he wasnt. Trump js hiring impeachment lawyers prob because he sees republicans getting awful squirmy with each new revelation

                  Many republicans are (sadly) naturally squishy or squirmy. Not to mention there are many republicans who would knife Trump in the back as easily as any democrat would (John McCain comes to mind).

                  BTW - some of the criticism of the GOP as talking a good game to it's base and then going to Washington and not following through is absolutely true. The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Did obama ever hire impeachment lawyers when half the country was calling for it cause he was a secret mooslim plant? He didnt, cause he wasnt. Trump js hiring impeachment lawyers prob because he sees republicans getting awful squirmy with each new revelation

                    Many republicans are (sadly) naturally squishy or squirmy. Not to mention there are many republicans who would knife Trump in the back as easily as any democrat would (John McCain comes to mind).

                    BTW - some of the criticism of the GOP as talking a good game to it's base and then going to Washington and not following through is absolutely true. The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    Many republicans are (sadly) naturally squishy or squirmy. Not to mention there are many republicans who would knife Trump in the back as easily as any democrat would (John McCain comes to mind).

                    BTW - some of the criticism of the GOP as talking a good game to it's base and then going to Washington and not following through is absolutely true. The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

                    You mean the veteran your current POTUS made fun of for his service and being captured?

                    Perhaps McCain recognizes an unreasonable and indecent man when he sees one?

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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      Many republicans are (sadly) naturally squishy or squirmy. Not to mention there are many republicans who would knife Trump in the back as easily as any democrat would (John McCain comes to mind).

                      BTW - some of the criticism of the GOP as talking a good game to it's base and then going to Washington and not following through is absolutely true. The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

                      You mean the veteran your current POTUS made fun of for his service and being captured?

                      Perhaps McCain recognizes an unreasonable and indecent man when he sees one?

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                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                      You mean the veteran your current POTUS made fun of for his service and being captured?

                      Perhaps McCain recognizes an unreasonable and indecent man when he sees one?

                      You are only partly right. Trump was out of line with his criticism of McCain's war record (especially when Trump never served in the military) but McCain has served as a useful idiot for the liberal MSM for many years prior to Trump. The left wing press always loved McCain and used him as a go to guy to validate much of their criticism of the GOP and McCain was always ready to badmouth his own party. I don't think McCain learned anything either about the liberal media when he ran for president and they turned on him like I knew they would.

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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        Did obama ever hire impeachment lawyers when half the country was calling for it cause he was a secret mooslim plant? He didnt, cause he wasnt. Trump js hiring impeachment lawyers prob because he sees republicans getting awful squirmy with each new revelation

                        Many republicans are (sadly) naturally squishy or squirmy. Not to mention there are many republicans who would knife Trump in the back as easily as any democrat would (John McCain comes to mind).

                        BTW - some of the criticism of the GOP as talking a good game to it's base and then going to Washington and not following through is absolutely true. The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

                        Maybe because the gop understands PP and what they do more than the oversimplified narratives fed to the simpletons that vote for republucans. So if they defund PP overnight you potentially fuck with their own voter base.

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Holy shit did you just forget anything that happened the last 8 years?

                          I remember the last 8 years very well with the corrupt liberal media downplaying or not even reporting many times the real scandals out of the Obama administration. Trump doesn't have that luxury with the corrupt media who are just a branch of the DNC who are out to hang him.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          I remember the last 8 years very well with the corrupt liberal media downplaying or not even reporting many times the real scandals out of the Obama administration. Trump doesn't have that luxury with the corrupt media who are just a branch of the DNC who are out to hang him.

                          No no no. Forget the MSM bullshit.

                          The script is just flipped. Conservatives wanted to do everything they could to get Obama out of office just you're claiming Liberals are doing with Trump now.

                          It is amazing to me that a group if you on here are just doing the exact polar opposite of what you were doing the last 8 years (reactions flipped, etc etc) and none of you seem to realize it.

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            The GOP control all three branches of government so what is their excuse today to continue funding Planned Parenthood?

                            Maybe because the gop understands PP and what they do more than the oversimplified narratives fed to the simpletons that vote for republucans. So if they defund PP overnight you potentially fuck with their own voter base.

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            Maybe because the gop understands PP and what they do more than the oversimplified narratives fed to the simpletons that vote for republucans. So if they defund PP overnight you potentially fuck with their own voter base.

                            Baloney. Planned Parenthood claims they do alot of services for women they don't like mammograms and prenatal care. The money PP gets can be better used for organizations that actually do mammograms and prenatal care for women. If republicans are going to make campaign promises such as de-funding PP then they should have their feet held to the fire when they don't deliver on it.

                            And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                            Yes, Planned Parenthood claims to do prenatal care, and yes, it’s a lie

                            https://www.liveaction.org/news/yes-planned-parenthood-claims-prenatal-care-yes-lie/

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                              @oldbrownsfan said:

                              I remember the last 8 years very well with the corrupt liberal media downplaying or not even reporting many times the real scandals out of the Obama administration. Trump doesn't have that luxury with the corrupt media who are just a branch of the DNC who are out to hang him.

                              No no no. Forget the MSM bullshit.

                              The script is just flipped. Conservatives wanted to do everything they could to get Obama out of office just you're claiming Liberals are doing with Trump now.

                              It is amazing to me that a group if you on here are just doing the exact polar opposite of what you were doing the last 8 years (reactions flipped, etc etc) and none of you seem to realize it.

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              No no no. Forget the MSM bullshit.

                              The script is just flipped. Conservatives wanted to do everything they could to get Obama out of office just you're claiming Liberals are doing with Trump now.

                              It is amazing to me that a group if you on here are just doing the exact polar opposite of what you were doing the last 8 years (reactions flipped, etc etc) and none of you seem to realize it.

                              The MSM thing is only BS to you because your side benefits from it.

                              Study: How Biased is the Media Against Trump? EXTREMELY Biased.

                              http://www.dailywire.com/news/14035/report-how-biased-media-against-trump-88-coverage-james-barrett

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Maybe because the gop understands PP and what they do more than the oversimplified narratives fed to the simpletons that vote for republucans. So if they defund PP overnight you potentially fuck with their own voter base.

                                Baloney. Planned Parenthood claims they do alot of services for women they don't like mammograms and prenatal care. The money PP gets can be better used for organizations that actually do mammograms and prenatal care for women. If republicans are going to make campaign promises such as de-funding PP then they should have their feet held to the fire when they don't deliver on it.

                                And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                                Yes, Planned Parenthood claims to do prenatal care, and yes, it’s a lie

                                https://www.liveaction.org/news/yes-planned-parenthood-claims-prenatal-care-yes-lie/

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                                Two sides of the same coin.

                                If you don't believe the majority of voters from either side are complete idiots, then you haven't taken an honest look around lately.

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                                  @clevfan4life said:

                                  Maybe because the gop understands PP and what they do more than the oversimplified narratives fed to the simpletons that vote for republucans. So if they defund PP overnight you potentially fuck with their own voter base.

                                  Baloney. Planned Parenthood claims they do alot of services for women they don't like mammograms and prenatal care. The money PP gets can be better used for organizations that actually do mammograms and prenatal care for women. If republicans are going to make campaign promises such as de-funding PP then they should have their feet held to the fire when they don't deliver on it.

                                  And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                                  Yes, Planned Parenthood claims to do prenatal care, and yes, it’s a lie

                                  https://www.liveaction.org/news/yes-planned-parenthood-claims-prenatal-care-yes-lie/

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  Baloney. Planned Parenthood claims they do alot of services for women they don't like mammograms and prenatal care. The money PP gets can be better used for organizations that actually do mammograms and prenatal care for women. If republicans are going to make campaign promises such as de-funding PP then they should have their feet held to the fire when they don't deliver on it.

                                  And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                                  1) im in agreement that perhsps the abortion services should be defunded given that half the country foesnt want to subsidize abortions and frankly, im still not sure whats going on at pp with selling fetus's. I dupport womens right to choose but not the right to get pregnant and monetize their fetus's.

                                  2) but claiming pp doesnt do any of those other services really shows the low information we're desling with. All humans in our society have fallen susceptible to having their narratives boiler plated for them, but you conservstives beleive "easily" disproveable falsehoods.

                                  If a theoretical physicist wirking on cutting edge unified theory research bullshits me about something he's working on, would be tough for anyone on the planet save for his colleagues to csll him on it. But you conservatives buy shit hook line and sinker that can be refuted with a sub 10 second google query. That is inforgiveable. The voncept of "alternative facts" has been brewing on ur side for years now. Because too many of u are profoundly ignorant of how too many thongs in this universe actually work.

                                  I know what this is about, im not fooled for a moment. You all want to go back to the days when ur church leaders were the only sources of answers. When men could be executed for saying the world isnt flat and we actually revolve around the sun. Those days are never coming back. Its that loss of control that boils people on ur side.

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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                                    Two sides of the same coin.

                                    If you don't believe the majority of voters from either side are complete idiots, then you haven't taken an honest look around lately.

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                                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    Two sides of the same coin.

                                    If you don't believe the majority of voters from either side are complete idiots, then you haven't taken an honest look around lately.

                                    Winston Churchill had some great quotes. Here is one:

                                    winstonchurchill1.jpg

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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      Baloney. Planned Parenthood claims they do alot of services for women they don't like mammograms and prenatal care. The money PP gets can be better used for organizations that actually do mammograms and prenatal care for women. If republicans are going to make campaign promises such as de-funding PP then they should have their feet held to the fire when they don't deliver on it.

                                      And btw it is the democrats who have a stranglehold on the low information voters.By far.

                                      1) im in agreement that perhsps the abortion services should be defunded given that half the country foesnt want to subsidize abortions and frankly, im still not sure whats going on at pp with selling fetus's. I dupport womens right to choose but not the right to get pregnant and monetize their fetus's.

                                      2) but claiming pp doesnt do any of those other services really shows the low information we're desling with. All humans in our society have fallen susceptible to having their narratives boiler plated for them, but you conservstives beleive "easily" disproveable falsehoods.

                                      If a theoretical physicist wirking on cutting edge unified theory research bullshits me about something he's working on, would be tough for anyone on the planet save for his colleagues to csll him on it. But you conservatives buy shit hook line and sinker that can be refuted with a sub 10 second google query. That is inforgiveable. The voncept of "alternative facts" has been brewing on ur side for years now. Because too many of u are profoundly ignorant of how too many thongs in this universe actually work.

                                      I know what this is about, im not fooled for a moment. You all want to go back to the days when ur church leaders were the only sources of answers. When men could be executed for saying the world isnt flat and we actually revolve around the sun. Those days are never coming back. Its that loss of control that boils people on ur side.

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      1) im in agreement that perhsps the abortion services should be defunded given that half the country foesnt want to subsidize abortions and frankly, im still not sure whats going on at pp with selling fetus's. I dupport womens right to choose but not the right to get pregnant and monetize their fetus's.

                                      2) but claiming pp doesnt do any of those other services really shows the low information we're desling with. All humans in our society have fallen susceptible to having their narratives boiler plated for them, but you conservstives beleive "easily" disproveable falsehoods.

                                      If a theoretical physicist wirking on cutting edge unified theory research bullshits me about something he's working on, would be tough for anyone on the planet save for his colleagues to csll him on it. But you conservatives buy shit hook line and sinker that can be refuted with a sub 10 second google query. That is inforgiveable. The voncept of "alternative facts" has been brewing on ur side for years now. Because too many of u are profoundly ignorant of how too many thongs in this universe actually work.

                                      I know what this is about, im not fooled for a moment. You all want to go back to the days when ur church leaders were the only sources of answers. When men could be executed for saying the world isnt flat and we actually revolve around the sun. Those days are never coming back. Its that loss of control that boils people on ur side.

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        No no no. Forget the MSM bullshit.

                                        The script is just flipped. Conservatives wanted to do everything they could to get Obama out of office just you're claiming Liberals are doing with Trump now.

                                        It is amazing to me that a group if you on here are just doing the exact polar opposite of what you were doing the last 8 years (reactions flipped, etc etc) and none of you seem to realize it.

                                        The MSM thing is only BS to you because your side benefits from it.

                                        Study: How Biased is the Media Against Trump? EXTREMELY Biased.

                                        http://www.dailywire.com/news/14035/report-how-biased-media-against-trump-88-coverage-james-barrett

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        The MSM thing is only BS to you because your side benefits from it.

                                        Study: How Biased is the Media Against Trump? EXTREMELY Biased.

                                        http://www.dailywire.com/news/14035/report-how-biased-media-against-trump-88-coverage-james-barrett

                                        1) No, it is BS in this case because it's used as a distraction. I wasn't discussing the media at all but "the liberal MSM!" is the answer to every post.

                                        2) That article refers to the same report you've posted on here before. It's done by a self proclaimed right wing group. Clearly that is a biased source.

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          The MSM thing is only BS to you because your side benefits from it.

                                          Study: How Biased is the Media Against Trump? EXTREMELY Biased.

                                          http://www.dailywire.com/news/14035/report-how-biased-media-against-trump-88-coverage-james-barrett

                                          1) No, it is BS in this case because it's used as a distraction. I wasn't discussing the media at all but "the liberal MSM!" is the answer to every post.

                                          2) That article refers to the same report you've posted on here before. It's done by a self proclaimed right wing group. Clearly that is a biased source.

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          1) No, it is BS in this case because it's used as a distraction. I wasn't discussing the media at all but "the liberal MSM!" is the answer to every post.

                                          2) That article refers to the same report you've posted on here before. It's done by a self proclaimed right wing group. Clearly that is a biased source.

                                          Study done by Harvard Woody...a very liberal institution :

                                          Harvard Study Agrees With MRC: Media Biased Against Trump

                                          http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jackson-richman/2017/05/19/harvard-study-agrees-mrc-media-biased-against-trump

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