"Browns' hierarchy seems to prefer Derek Anderson over fan-favorite Brady Quinn"
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Why do I have this feeling that if the headline read "Browns' hierarchy seems to prefer fan-favorite Brady Quinn" many of you would have no problem with this article at all?

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Why do I have this feeling that if the headline read "Browns' hierarchy seems to prefer fan-favorite Brady Quinn" many of you would have no problem with this article at all?

Why do I have this feeling that if the headline read "Browns' hierarchy seems to prefer fan-favorite Brady Quinn" many of you would have no problem with this article at all?

They're wigging out over the possibility that yet another staff might feel DA's the better QB. Maybe there's some blatant homer-sexualism over "local" kids.
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@shepwrite said:
That said... OBR continues to say that Anderson has his fans within the new regime, guys who still believe he'll be a better quarterback than Quinn. It would appear that Quinn has more fans -- hence the refusal to trade him even for a #1 -- but Anderson has fans.Anderson does have fans, and they're called teammates. The coach is no dummy.
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@shepwrite said:
That said... OBR continues to say that Anderson has his fans within the new regime, guys who still believe he'll be a better quarterback than Quinn. It would appear that Quinn has more fans -- hence the refusal to trade him even for a #1 -- but Anderson has fans.Anderson does have fans, and they're called teammates. The coach is no dummy.
Anderson does have fans, and they're called teammates. The coach is no dummy.
I think you are right. I think Brady hasn't exactly been accepted at this point.
That doesn't mean he can't or won't, but at this point I think there is something about the guy most of the players don't like as evidenced by him getting punched in the mouth.
I just can't see that as a one time thing that caused that. My feeling is some things had been brewing for a while before that happened.
Possibly BQ is trying a bit to hard to make it "his" team??
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Why do I have this feeling that if the headline read "Browns' hierarchy seems to prefer fan-favorite Brady Quinn" many of you would have no problem with this article at all?

They're wigging out over the possibility that yet another staff might feel DA's the better QB. Maybe there's some blatant homer-sexualism over "local" kids.
They're wigging out over the possibility that yet another staff might feel DA's the better QB. Maybe there's some blatant homer-sexualism over "local" kids.
......or homer-sexualism about "local" kids.
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Here we go again with the DA versus BQ thing again.
If the coaching staff really thinks DA is the better option, then we need a QB. Anderson WILL NOT win a championship. He doesn't have it. He's topped out. His ceiling is well known.
I could care less about Quinn, other than he represents the potential for an upgrade at the QB position.
(So, we're back to Shep's point: if we had good offers for Quinn AND were convinced DA was our guy..... we would have traded Quinn.)
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Gotta love how you old dawgs are stirring the pot, it's really sweet of ya. We've got Peens going with the "I have absolutely no proof whatsoever but I'm saying DA has the locker room since the fat Team Jester took a stupid sucker punch at him" card. Roach calling out fans for wanting to see a number one draft pick who happened to grow up in Columbus. Plus, claiming teammates are on the side of DA although the only recent comments were made by Winslow saying BQ should be the man.
All this over some moron writing a blog based on his opinion in which he contradicts himself.
Love you guys, you really know how to keep things hopping while Satn isn't around. It won't be funny for most of us Browns fans, but if somehow the scenario works out that we have to go through another season of watching DA start at QB, I hope you guys are happy. Plus. we'll be able to see more of the love the teammates have for him when they are throwing their hands up and shaking their heads in disgust at DA's accuracy and decisions er indecisions.
A Smith comment about punching BQ here:
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Gotta love how you old dawgs are stirring the pot, it's really sweet of ya. We've got Peens going with the "I have absolutely no proof whatsoever but I'm saying DA has the locker room since the fat Team Jester took a stupid sucker punch at him" card. Roach calling out fans for wanting to see a number one draft pick who happened to grow up in Columbus. Plus, claiming teammates are on the side of DA although the only recent comments were made by Winslow saying BQ should be the man.
All this over some moron writing a blog based on his opinion in which he contradicts himself.
Love you guys, you really know how to keep things hopping while Satn isn't around. It won't be funny for most of us Browns fans, but if somehow the scenario works out that we have to go through another season of watching DA start at QB, I hope you guys are happy. Plus. we'll be able to see more of the love the teammates have for him when they are throwing their hands up and shaking their heads in disgust at DA's accuracy and decisions er indecisions.
A Smith comment about punching BQ here:
Gotta love how you old dawgs are stirring the pot, it's really sweet of ya. We've got Peens going with the "I have absolutely no proof whatsoever but I'm saying DA has the locker room since the fat Team Jester took a stupid sucker punch at him" card. Roach calling out fans for wanting to see a number one draft pick who happened to grow up in Columbus. Plus, claiming teammates are on the side of DA although the only recent comments were made by Winslow saying BQ should be the man.
Winslow? Who's Winslow? Is that the guy that used to play tight-end for us?
DA was a shanked Dawson FG from going 11-4. If he didn't have the locker room, he'd be gone. Deal with it.
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Gotta love how you old dawgs are stirring the pot, it's really sweet of ya. We've got Peens going with the "I have absolutely no proof whatsoever but I'm saying DA has the locker room since the fat Team Jester took a stupid sucker punch at him" card. Roach calling out fans for wanting to see a number one draft pick who happened to grow up in Columbus. Plus, claiming teammates are on the side of DA although the only recent comments were made by Winslow saying BQ should be the man.
Winslow? Who's Winslow? Is that the guy that used to play tight-end for us?
DA was a shanked Dawson FG from going 11-4. If he didn't have the locker room, he'd be gone. Deal with it.
Winslow? Who's Winslow? Is that the guy that used to play tight-end for us?
DA was a shanked Dawson FG from going 11-4. If he didn't have the locker room, he'd be gone. Deal with it.
Your attempt at condescension fails and so do you Roach, your whole point is stupid and asinine.
Winslow commented because he could, but you can't name anybody who has sided with DA. There is no doubt he probably has backers on the team that are his boys, find me a team where that is not the case.
He'd be gone if he could garner more than a box of cracker jacks, so deal with that.
How long does DA have to suck ass for you guys to want another QB? Two more years....three....you boys have made your mind up that for whatever reason you don't like Quinn and will accept DA for all his misgivings. I have come to the conclusion that when guys pull out the "local boy" card with Quinn and avoid all the other issues that they are nothing but DA lovers, but usually they are from Oregon somewhere. We'll see how jumping for joy you guys are when DA is being DA again. I'm sure you'll remind all of us gay Queen lovers that DA is the shit because he could have went 11-4 or something.
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I certainly am one of the "Go with Brady!" fans but, frankly speaking, if we could succeed with Shaun Rogers under Center I couldn't care less.
I WANT TO WIN! Period.
I find all these Quinn-Anderson talks rather boring at the moment.
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Winslow? Who's Winslow? Is that the guy that used to play tight-end for us?
DA was a shanked Dawson FG from going 11-4. If he didn't have the locker room, he'd be gone. Deal with it.
Your attempt at condescension fails and so do you Roach, your whole point is stupid and asinine.
Winslow commented because he could, but you can't name anybody who has sided with DA. There is no doubt he probably has backers on the team that are his boys, find me a team where that is not the case.
He'd be gone if he could garner more than a box of cracker jacks, so deal with that.
How long does DA have to suck ass for you guys to want another QB? Two more years....three....you boys have made your mind up that for whatever reason you don't like Quinn and will accept DA for all his misgivings. I have come to the conclusion that when guys pull out the "local boy" card with Quinn and avoid all the other issues that they are nothing but DA lovers, but usually they are from Oregon somewhere. We'll see how jumping for joy you guys are when DA is being DA again. I'm sure you'll remind all of us gay Queen lovers that DA is the shit because he could have went 11-4 or something.
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It isn't about stirring the pot or wanting DA.
He does have the locker room from what I gather. He isn't the guy who got punched in the mouth.
I don't know if you have played team sports ...I assume some anyway.
You don't go from no problem to getting punched in the face at the drop of a hat.
From my experience, those things have usually brewed for a while until it finally spills over. Sorry, that is just how it works. Quinn wasn't just sitting there, all of a sudden says something and gets punched. There had to be more to it than that...I don't care how anybody wants to paint it.
As Roach said, I also can support whoever gets the job. I have a feeling you and others can't, and as he said, that is a sad situation.
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Sorry Riffer. If Quinn beats out DA, he'll have my 100% support. Unfortunately, you can't say the same thing about DA. To me, that is a sad situation.
Best regards,
Stupid and Assinine
Well, since I have never ever rooted against my QB, including last year when I wanted to trade DA when we could get something for him, I doubt I'll start now.
Another stupid and asinine comment Roach, you're piling them up.
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It isn't about stirring the pot or wanting DA.
He does have the locker room from what I gather. He isn't the guy who got punched in the mouth.
I don't know if you have played team sports ...I assume some anyway.
You don't go from no problem to getting punched in the face at the drop of a hat.
From my experience, those things have usually brewed for a while until it finally spills over. Sorry, that is just how it works. Quinn wasn't just sitting there, all of a sudden says something and gets punched. There had to be more to it than that...I don't care how anybody wants to paint it.
As Roach said, I also can support whoever gets the job. I have a feeling you and others can't, and as he said, that is a sad situation.
It isn't about stirring the pot or wanting DA.
He does have the locker room from what I gather. He isn't the guy who got punched in the mouth.
I don't know if you have played team sports ...I assume some anyway.
You don't go from no problem to getting punched in the face at the drop of a hat.
From my experience, those things have usually brewed for a while until it finally spills over. Sorry, that is just how it works. Quinn wasn't just sitting there, all of a sudden says something and gets punched. There had to be more to it than that...I don't care how anybody wants to paint it.
As Roach said, I also can support whoever gets the job. I have a feeling you and others can't, and as he said, that is a sad situation.
Peens just admit you love the Roachster cuz he's an older gentleman like yourself and you agree with some of his postings here where he goes against the grain.
Now on to your post. First off, I played football, basketball and baseball at a high level in HS. I also was a 19D10 Cavalry Recon Scout in the Army and a road construction foreman for years until a hip replacement forced me to change careers, so it's possible I may know a thing or two about working with a team.
What I ask from you or Roach is to back up your comments that DA has the locker room over Quinn. Right now you have zero cred basing a sucker punch from the fat team jester as your main resource, whereas I have the team's former superstar TE (who was supposed to be boys with DA) saying the Browns should go with Queen. I'll be waiting for some kind of proof other than Shaun Smith taking offense to something. That stuff happens in locker rooms all the time but doesn't get reported. Ever think that Smith is just a dumbass bully? Face it, it's all conjecture on your part but if someone doesn't agree with you they are immediately a Queen queer who won't back another QB.
You guys are the types that say you will back Quinn, but if he does get the job you'll be right on his nuts the minute he screws up talking up DA again, which is another reason a lot of us want him gone. I assume Mancock does too, hence making sure they got Ratliff in the trade.
If only Dexter could garner a free Pizza deliverd from Donatos.
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I like Roach because he makes sense.
That's cool with all you did...wasn't trying to say you didn't.....Cav Scouts train with the 5th up at Ft Knox the best I remember....pretty good outfit up there....2/327 here. No Slack
We will leave it at that....it will all play out over the next 2-3 months.
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That's cool with all you did...wasn't trying to say you didn't.....Cav Scouts train with the 5th up at Ft Knox the best I remember....pretty good outfit up there....2/327 here. No Slack
That is correct sir, although I did basic in Campbell and that sucked bad. WWI barracks and road marching everywhere.
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What's this crap from 'peen and others about our not "supporting" our QB? I cheer like hell for him and enjoyed the hell out of the Giants game last year. However, I don't think he's the answer. Has nothing to do with support.
Why didn't you come to the defense of other guys who weren't "getting it done"? (e.g., Andra Davis, Willie McGinnest, etc.) Why didn't you chide those who were wondering if we could find someone else who might do better?
Unreal.
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I did with Davis and never thought him the stiff many did.....Willie....well, you got me, he has been done for a while.
What can I say??
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It's tough to really claim the locker room as a backup. They tend to be politicized and sometimes racially and/or offense/defense divided. Pretty white boys with endorsement deals don't always get love from black defensive tackles.
But Smith didn't go after Quinn because nobody likes Quinn
I don't disagree as evidenced in my statement it doesn't mean he can't or won't build the teams confidence. I also didn't say nobody liked Quinn, and if it came across as such, I am clearing the record.
Not talking about you so much here Shepster, but there seems to be a lot of reading what people want to read rather than reading what people say.
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I think you are right. I think Brady hasn't exactly been accepted at this point.
That doesn't mean he can't or won't, but at this point I think there is something about the guy most of the players don't like as evidenced by him getting punched in the mouth.
I just can't see that as a one time thing that caused that. My feeling is some things had been brewing for a while before that happened.
Possibly BQ is trying a bit to hard to make it "his" team??
Yeah, how in the hell could anybody take these two quotes out of context.

don't disagree as evidenced in my statement it doesn't mean he can't or won't build the teams confidence. I also didn't say nobody liked Quinn, and if it came across as such, I am clearing the record.
Not talking about you so much here Shepster, but there seems to be a lot of reading what people want to read rather than reading what people say.
Then there is Roach's brilliant little swipe that started it all and you were so eager to agree with.
Anderson does have fans, and they're called teammates. The coach is no dummy.
So I guess this means that Mangini would never trade DA, it had nothing to do with the fact they couldn't get nothing for him.
Reading into what people aren't saying is going on, but that would be those who say that fans would never root for DA and only like Quinn because he grew up in Columbus. I gotcha.
I knew this kind of BS would go on here as long as DA didn't get moved, and it doesn't have to come from our Oregon State brethren either.
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