Ship Osweiler?
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I predicted the day before camp started that the Ostrich would be the starter because I did not believe that Kessler could increase his ball speed (I think you're born with or without it) and that Kizer, being a rookie, would not beat him out.
But we haven't even played our first preseason game yet. The Ostrich can play himself out of the starter job.
Our current W/L record indicates that we're right in the thick of the hunt for a playoff spot. We have to put the 'current' best players out on the field. If / when we get to a point that we aren't going to the playoffs then you can start to get your future QB's feet wet.
I predicted the day before camp started that the Ostrich would be the starter...
Yup... and so far playing out pretty much as you thought it would. Makes you the leader at the Qtr-pole...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So what I said would happen months ago, is indeed solidifying. Hue is clueless when it comes to the QWB. The Browns have no plan, no lead hore, and pretty much are going to throw shit on the wall and hope something sticks.
Un-fucking-believable.
So what I said would happen months ago, is indeed solidifying. Hue is clueless when it comes to the QWB. The Browns have no plan, no lead hore, and pretty much are going to throw shit on the wall and hope something sticks.
Un-fucking-believable.
Or Hue may be trying to light a fire under the other QBs asses. He seems hell bent on getting the team a taste of success, even if it is a meaningless game.
There is something to be said for making sure the other 52 guys are on board with the plan, whatever the hell the plan may be, and the other 52 guys wanna win now and belive that the 53rd guy manning QB 1 is the guy who can get them there.
If Kizer be that guy, the other 52 gotta see something from him to buy into that, otherwise they just start going through the motions.
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Makes you the leader at the Qtr-pole...
I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.
The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....
I anxiously await our first preseason game. Can he move the team with the #1 receivers? What will Kizer look like in his first live action? And can Kessler shake off his scrimmage performance?
Our offense has a lot of questions to answer. Is our OL markedly better with the two new veterans? Will we be able to run the ball better? Has our WR/TE positions been improved over last year? Britt for Pryor and DeValve for Barnidge? Can Njoku perform like a 1st round pick? And of course, do we have a QB that's a worthy starter? - There's a lot we'll learn over the next few weeks. Hopefully it'll be positive and not forgettable.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
kessler fucking sucks jackson should have given all the reps to kizer last friday,instead he just mucked it up I don't get it as how fucking stupid Jackson is ,fire his ass now make willaims head coach and find someone to run the offense
kessler fucking sucks jackson should have given all the reps to kizer last friday,instead he just mucked it up I don't get it as how fucking stupid Jackson is ,fire his ass now make willaims head coach and find someone to run the offense
Some punctuation would've helped, but a coherent thought combined with punctuation would've actually made this readable.
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kessler fucking sucks jackson should have given all the reps to kizer last friday,instead he just mucked it up I don't get it as how fucking stupid Jackson is ,fire his ass now make willaims head coach and find someone to run the offense
Some punctuation would've helped, but a coherent thought combined with punctuation would've actually made this readable.
Some punctuation would've helped, but a coherent thought combined with punctuation would've actually made this readable.
Actually, punctuation and coherent writing style would not have made this post any better. Some of the most intelligent people I have ever met spoke broken English, or very little English. Horrible grammar doesn't detract from a person's point.
In all honesty, I think the person who lacks polish is the one who takes time out his life to correct spelling and grammar, especially in a place designed to trade ideas.
That said, I can give you a more focused version of what the guy said. I am quite able to understand his points.
Kessler has already shown that he does not have what it takes. Hogan, and AssOiler also, we know are not the QB of the future. The only QB the Browns have who potentially could be the QB of the future is Kizer.
What the poster is rightly saying is, a smart coach sends a message.............. KIZER is our future. A smart coach gives Kizer the bulk of the reps and the commitment of the franchise.
Hue Jackson should be, and will be fired this year. He has no fucking clue of who his talent really is. SO he plays political correctness by playing the most experienced guy. That way, when AssOiler fails Hue has something to hide behind.............D'uh he looked the best.
Who the fuck cares who looked the best? YOu got 3 cocksuckers who can't play, and a young kid with a lot of upsides. KIZER shoudl be running the team............ doesn't matter how much he fucks up. Go 1 - 15 again for all I care.... But AT LEAST shoot for the moon for once. Always fucking playing it safe for fear of being blamed for failure.
Hue Jackson is the worst fucking coach in the NFL and the worst Browns coach in our history. Totally in over his head.
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Makes you the leader at the Qtr-pole...
I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.
The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....
I anxiously await our first preseason game. Can he move the team with the #1 receivers? What will Kizer look like in his first live action? And can Kessler shake off his scrimmage performance?
Our offense has a lot of questions to answer. Is our OL markedly better with the two new veterans? Will we be able to run the ball better? Has our WR/TE positions been improved over last year? Britt for Pryor and DeValve for Barnidge? Can Njoku perform like a 1st round pick? And of course, do we have a QB that's a worthy starter? - There's a lot we'll learn over the next few weeks. Hopefully it'll be positive and not forgettable.
The hyperbole well that never runs dry...
I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.
The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....
There's a point where the incremental height "advantage" of each added inch meets the declining "fluidity" and you end up in the realm of "gangly". That's where I see Brock. I can't think of a great QB who was 6'7 or taller, and there aren't many at 6'6.
Alcohol and ibuprofen were my two greatest allies in my playing days...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The hyperbole well that never runs dry...
I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.
The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....
There's a point where the incremental height "advantage" of each added inch meets the declining "fluidity" and you end up in the realm of "gangly". That's where I see Brock. I can't think of a great QB who was 6'7 or taller, and there aren't many at 6'6.
Alcohol and ibuprofen were my two greatest allies in my playing days...
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Vandalay...
Houston is having a little fun at our expense...
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So....Ill guess that you agree there is a good chance he's gonna be gone......whether Hue wants him or not?
Or.....do you think Hue is BSing and he really doesnt believe Brock gives us the best chance to "score and win"...(his words)....
And....on the Hue consulting with Harvard guys thing.....what do think the convo centers around?......whether Hue can count on Brock being here or who Shashi thinks is best to start?......and why would Shashi input on that, other than a lack of trust in Hues opinion or that he has a plan that conflicts with Hues?
"Mr. Fader, you sure ask a lot of questions for someone from New Jersey!."
First, "Showcase" was a joke. Moving Brock to work against the 1's is not the way to showcase him. Whether he continues in the game against the 2's will be interesting. I still do not like the pressure Hue is generating for this game.
On your other points:
- I don't see us trading our regular-season starting QB out from under Hue.
- I believe Hue. At this point it seems Brock has earned the start that is three days away. It's a long way until regular season.
- I think there's room in Hue's and his Coordinators' week for a sit down with Department Heads comparing notes on what they are seeing out of every player. There would certainly be room in that to discuss any on-going trade inquires teams are making about any players we have rostered.
- I would also expect at least Sashi and Berry to be sitting in, but participating very little in, Hue's full staff meetings where players' progress is discussed.
- DePo and the real Analytics core? They likely tabulate what they see/measure in practice and submit reports daily to Hue as well as key FO.
Sashi & Co. sets the 53. Hue & Co. sets the starting lineup. That hasn't changed. That there is a potential conflict around a player means the conversation must flow. The only thing that can make any disagreement worse is if it is accompanied by surprise.
Whether (Brock) continues in the game against the 2's will be interesting.
And in the above linked Houston article is this:
The Brock Osweiler Era officially starts Thursday when the Browns play host to the Saints in the first preseason game.
That era may be short-lived however, as Browns coach Hue Jackson said part of the reason he's starting Osweiler is because Cody Kessler and rookie DeShone Kizer need more playing time.
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I don't want to sound to negative but you can bet the farm he will throw a pick on his first drive (If we do pass it on the first drive) Mite just be 3 runs but either way his first passing drive he will turn it over. He freaking blows
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The hyperbole well that never runs dry...
I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.
The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....
There's a point where the incremental height "advantage" of each added inch meets the declining "fluidity" and you end up in the realm of "gangly". That's where I see Brock. I can't think of a great QB who was 6'7 or taller, and there aren't many at 6'6.
Alcohol and ibuprofen were my two greatest allies in my playing days...
There's a point where the incremental height "advantage" of each added inch meets the declining "fluidity" and you end up in the realm of "gangly". That's where I see Brock.
I hear ya. I haven't paid attention to Brock until we got him....so I'm quite anxious to watch him and see if he looks like a big gawk out there...or like a nfl QB.
There are certainly enough people who are saying he sucks.....but I'd like to formulate my own opinion on him based on what I actually see.
The Brock Osweiler Era officially starts Thursday when the Browns play host to the Saints in the first preseason game.
That era may be short-lived however, as Browns coach Hue Jackson said part of the reason he's starting Osweiler is because Cody Kessler and rookie DeShone Kizer need more playing time.
I think he means Kizer. I think he's relegating Kessler to afterthought status in his mind now. But hey, right now it's Brock's job to lose now. Two weeks into TC and Kessler's already lost the job. That leaves Kizer & Colonel Hogan.
I think (I'm doing a lot of thinking here, my head hurts) that Kessler only gets the job back if the Ostrich gets hurt.
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I don't want to sound to negative but you can bet the farm he will throw a pick on his first drive (If we do pass it on the first drive) Mite just be 3 runs but either way his first passing drive he will turn it over. He freaking blows
I hear ya, O... I saw more than a little Brock last season. He'd look smooth on one drop then like a spaz on the next one. And he ran like McCown...
I don't want to sound to negative but you can bet the farm he will throw a pick on his first drive...
Pretty big talk with our farms...
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well-well well-https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/8/8/16111098/dolphins-interest-in-trading-for-brock-osweiler-cursory-at-best
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I just can't believe he is even still on the damn team smh .
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Just read an account where trade talk opened with Fins wanting us to eat half Brock's salary and we asked for multiple picks... which is what linked article says...
Apparently it was a short call.
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I can't get that link to come up, though I see from the link it says something about the Dolphins interested in a trade for B.O. Fill in the blanks.
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I can't get that link to come up, though I see from the link it says something about the Dolphins interested in a trade for B.O. Fill in the blanks.
Fill in the blanks.
in the shorts, mia. got Cutler for 10M plus possible 3M more in incentives..If we assume multi-able is 2..Mia. wanted Browns to pay more than half of 16M & Browns wanted Multi-able picks back(2?,3?) from Mia. a little murky at this point..MKC is on it
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kessler fucking sucks jackson should have given all the reps to kizer last friday,instead he just mucked it up I don't get it as how fucking stupid Jackson is ,fire his ass now make willaims head coach and find someone to run the offense
Some punctuation would've helped, but a coherent thought combined with punctuation would've actually made this readable.
Some punctuation would've helped, but a coherent thought combined with punctuation would've actually made this readable.
let's make it easy for you
Kessler has sucked all through camp and did not deserve first team reps (Jackson is a fool) and should be fired
kizer should be given every chance possible to show he can be are QB going forward
doe's that help ?
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