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  • As some of you know, I'm a Realtor in Fort Lauderdale.

    I just heard, BQ just bought a house down here this week.

    My company also has Tim Couch's condo listing (for sale) here.

    @dan-in-florida said:

    As some of you know, I'm a Realtor in Fort Lauderdale.

    I just heard, BQ just bought a house down here this week.

    My company also has Tim Couch's condo listing (for sale) here.

    @lumbergh said:

    but how can he be in Fort Lauderdale when we all know he spends 24 hrs a day in the weight room and/or film room?

    Glad you asked...it was bought "for him". Other people were down here looking (previewing our properties & others) and taking pictures for him.

    We never saw him, we just knew it was for a "high profile" person. I found out it was for him, from his Realtor, about an hour ago.

    Fact 🙂

    ---------------------------

    Hopefully it's just a vacation home!

  • I'm a fan of "the staff knows best".

    However, Tdawg's argument is faulty: the coaching/GM staff that apparently felt DA was better was unceremoniously fired. They failed. Utterly.

    So, how we could use any of the prior regime's thinking on personnel is beyond me (QB's, Andra Davis, Shaffer, McGinnest, etc.).

  • I'm a fan of "the staff knows best".

    However, Tdawg's argument is faulty: the coaching/GM staff that apparently felt DA was better was unceremoniously fired. They failed. Utterly.

    So, how we could use any of the prior regime's thinking on personnel is beyond me (QB's, Andra Davis, Shaffer, McGinnest, etc.).

    @greythan said:

    I'm a fan of "the staff knows best".

    However, Tdawg's argument is faulty: the coaching/GM staff that apparently felt DA was better was unceremoniously fired. They failed. Utterly.

    So, how we could use any of the prior regime's thinking on personnel is beyond me (QB's, Andra Davis, Shaffer, McGinnest, etc.).

    I'm still flabbergasted that those guys put so much stock in DA after that freakish half year against rancid defenses. They couldn't see the things we saw and at least have concerns? Instead, they just guaranteed him the starting job when he signed the contract.

    It baffles me that a guy like Anderson who has such obvious flaws got a free pass based on potential because of his arm and the ability to stretch defenses. There is so much more to QBing effectively in the NFL than having a big arm, and DA has none of those other attributes.

    Even with the cockpit he had in 2007 he was still a big liability at times, especially keeping drives alive when we had the lead. Sometimes I think we give these so called experts too much credit when they can't see what the average fan sees.

    I'm still pissed off at how this franchise has handled this whole situation. DA had the job handed to him last year so it's only fair to let Quinn get the first team reps and get his shot.

  • @greythan said:

    I'm a fan of "the staff knows best".

    However, Tdawg's argument is faulty: the coaching/GM staff that apparently felt DA was better was unceremoniously fired. They failed. Utterly.

    So, how we could use any of the prior regime's thinking on personnel is beyond me (QB's, Andra Davis, Shaffer, McGinnest, etc.).

    I'm still flabbergasted that those guys put so much stock in DA after that freakish half year against rancid defenses. They couldn't see the things we saw and at least have concerns? Instead, they just guaranteed him the starting job when he signed the contract.

    It baffles me that a guy like Anderson who has such obvious flaws got a free pass based on potential because of his arm and the ability to stretch defenses. There is so much more to QBing effectively in the NFL than having a big arm, and DA has none of those other attributes.

    Even with the cockpit he had in 2007 he was still a big liability at times, especially keeping drives alive when we had the lead. Sometimes I think we give these so called experts too much credit when they can't see what the average fan sees.

    I'm still pissed off at how this franchise has handled this whole situation. DA had the job handed to him last year so it's only fair to let Quinn get the first team reps and get his shot.

    @riffer-x said:

    I'm still flabbergasted that those guys put so much stock in DA after that freakish half year against rancid defenses. They couldn't see the things we saw and at least have concerns? Instead, they just guaranteed him the starting job when he signed the contract.

    It baffles me that a guy like Anderson who has such obvious flaws got a free pass based on potential because of his arm and the ability to stretch defenses. There is so much more to QBing effectively in the NFL than having a big arm, and DA has none of those other attributes.

    Even with the cockpit he had in 2007 he was still a big liability at times, especially keeping drives alive when we had the lead. Sometimes I think we give these so called experts too much credit when they can't see what the average fan sees.

    I'm still pissed off at how this franchise has handled this whole situation. DA had the job handed to him last year so it's only fair to let Quinn get the first team reps and get his shot.

    You bring up a great point, heads should have rolled after the collapse of 2007 but the RAC mentality only rewarded it with a free pass. Hindsight sucks!

  • @dan-in-florida said:

    As some of you know, I'm a Realtor in Fort Lauderdale.

    I just heard, BQ just bought a house down here this week.

    My company also has Tim Couch's condo listing (for sale) here.

    @lumbergh said:

    but how can he be in Fort Lauderdale when we all know he spends 24 hrs a day in the weight room and/or film room?

    Glad you asked...it was bought "for him". Other people were down here looking (previewing our properties & others) and taking pictures for him.

    We never saw him, we just knew it was for a "high profile" person. I found out it was for him, from his Realtor, about an hour ago.

    Fact 🙂

    ---------------------------

    Hopefully it's just a vacation home!

    @dan-in-florida said:

    Hopefully it's just a vacation home!

    Once the incentive based escalators in his contract kick in from taking 70% of the snaps this season, I imagine he'll engrave "70%" in the driveway.

  • Dan, was that 'Down Here' as in Ft Lauderdale, or 'down here' as in 'someplace in Florida'?

  • Dan, was that 'Down Here' as in Ft Lauderdale, or 'down here' as in 'someplace in Florida'?

    @lemosley01 said:

    Dan, was that 'Down Here' as in Ft Lauderdale, or 'down here' as in 'someplace in Florida'?

    In the Fort Lauderdale area. BQ didn't buy one of our properties but speaking to his agent she said he did buy a house so I assume it is in Fort Lauderdale Florida or a close community to Fort Lauderdale. Usually the farthest agents go when they look at property here, it can be as far north as Boca Raton or as far south as Miami. My bet is Fort Lauderdale though.

  • @shepwrite said:

    I sincerely doubt that the new brass favors Derek Anderson, the lowest rated passer in pro football last year, over Brady Quinn, the guy they wouldn't trade for a first round pick.

    Come on. Unless you think they're psychotic, they'll start Quinn.

    unless they're psychotic they'd also notice that Quinn's rating wasn't any better than Anderson's. Against worse teams. Try again dreamer.

  • Lum, the hell is your problem? I've been pulling for DA too, but you've gotta be blind if you can't see that Quinn is going to start. I mean, how do you turn down two offers w/ first round picks for a guy you don't intend to start. It just doesn't make sense. Like, where the hell did this story even come from. It just seems a bunch like us having interest in Sanchez. It sounds like we're trying to build him up and sell him.

  • @shepwrite said:

    I sincerely doubt that the new brass favors Derek Anderson, the lowest rated passer in pro football last year, over Brady Quinn, the guy they wouldn't trade for a first round pick.

    Come on. Unless you think they're psychotic, they'll start Quinn.

    unless they're psychotic they'd also notice that Quinn's rating wasn't any better than Anderson's. Against worse teams. Try again dreamer.

    @lumbergh said:

    unless they're psychotic they'd also notice that Quinn's rating wasn't any better than Anderson's. Against worse teams. Try again dreamer.

    Only the psychotic would think Quinn's rating matters. He doesn't have the numbers to conclude anything. Quinn's numbers are meaningless as they are statistically insignificant. The end.

    This is nothing more than continued effort to keep DA's value high. Think of the opposite rumor. "Brass favors Quinn". Then, DA's value drops lower than it already is. Even if they keep DA and he's on the bench, the smart move is to say you would have been damn happy with him as your QB, so when QB #1 from some other team goes down, off he goes for something of value.

    This is not a bad "leak" from the Koki-Man camp for this time of year, and probably smart.

  • @lumbergh said:

    unless they're psychotic they'd also notice that Quinn's rating wasn't any better than Anderson's. Against worse teams. Try again dreamer.

    Only the psychotic would think Quinn's rating matters. He doesn't have the numbers to conclude anything. Quinn's numbers are meaningless as they are statistically insignificant. The end.

    This is nothing more than continued effort to keep DA's value high. Think of the opposite rumor. "Brass favors Quinn". Then, DA's value drops lower than it already is. Even if they keep DA and he's on the bench, the smart move is to say you would have been damn happy with him as your QB, so when QB #1 from some other team goes down, off he goes for something of value.

    This is not a bad "leak" from the Koki-Man camp for this time of year, and probably smart.

    @oconrecon said:

    Only the psychotic would think Quinn's rating matters. He doesn't have the numbers to conclude anything. Quinn's numbers are meaningless as they are statistically insignificant. The end.

    This is nothing more than continued effort to keep DA's value high. Think of the opposite rumor. "Brass favors Quinn". Then, DA's value drops lower than it already is. Even if they keep DA and he's on the bench, the smart move is to say you would have been damn happy with him as your QB, so when QB #1 from some other team goes down, off he goes for something of value.

    This is not a bad "leak" from the Koki-Man camp for this time of year, and probably smart.

    Remember, we tried to stay high on Frye then when we couldn't get anything but a 6th for him we shot his ass out of here faster than if he had been loaded into a circus cannon.

    A lot of us were screaming "take the picks" with DA a season ago because we saw him degrade over time where he started hot, went cold. He peaked at the start of the season then it was all downhill.

    Now we're all kicking ourselves in the ass for NOT getting a 1 and 3 for the Drive Assassin when we had the chance and now we'll be lucky to get a "Frye" out of his ass.

    So if poor Lums is dillusional about DA, just humor him. You never bash a qb you're trying to shuffle off.

    And if you can't see that if DA was such a damn good fit, we would have traded Quinn for those additional first rounders we were offered to keep DA here, clear up the controversy, and give our named starter all the reps to learn the system.

    Smokescreen, can you say it boys and girls?

  • @shepwrite said:

    I can't fathom a scenario where Quinn doesn't get at least a handful of starts in a row

    okay well I'll explain a scenario for you:

    He gets beat out in camp

  • Lum, the hell is your problem? I've been pulling for DA too, but you've gotta be blind if you can't see that Quinn is going to start. I mean, how do you turn down two offers w/ first round picks for a guy you don't intend to start. It just doesn't make sense. Like, where the hell did this story even come from. It just seems a bunch like us having interest in Sanchez. It sounds like we're trying to build him up and sell him.

    @vaportrail said:

    I mean, how do you turn down two offers w/ first round picks for a guy you don't intend to start.

    1. How do you know Quinn had two offers with 1st rd picks?

    2. How do you know Anderson didn't have offers with 1st rd picks?

    3. If you think you actually know the answers to either of those questions, then how the hell did the Winslow trade go down with ZERO prior indications from anybody?

  • @lumbergh said:

    unless they're psychotic they'd also notice that Quinn's rating wasn't any better than Anderson's. Against worse teams. Try again dreamer.

    Only the psychotic would think Quinn's rating matters. He doesn't have the numbers to conclude anything. Quinn's numbers are meaningless as they are statistically insignificant. The end.

    This is nothing more than continued effort to keep DA's value high. Think of the opposite rumor. "Brass favors Quinn". Then, DA's value drops lower than it already is. Even if they keep DA and he's on the bench, the smart move is to say you would have been damn happy with him as your QB, so when QB #1 from some other team goes down, off he goes for something of value.

    This is not a bad "leak" from the Koki-Man camp for this time of year, and probably smart.

    @oconrecon said:

    Only the psychotic would think Quinn's rating matters. He doesn't have the numbers to conclude anything.

    okay so why don't you tell that to shep and his "GREATEST FIRST GAME AS A STARTER PASSER RATING IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF BROWNS FOOTBALL" argument?

  • @vaportrail said:

    I mean, how do you turn down two offers w/ first round picks for a guy you don't intend to start.

    1. How do you know Quinn had two offers with 1st rd picks?

    2. How do you know Anderson didn't have offers with 1st rd picks?

    3. If you think you actually know the answers to either of those questions, then how the hell did the Winslow trade go down with ZERO prior indications from anybody?

    @lumbergh said:

    1. How do you know Quinn had two offers with 1st rd picks?

    2. How do you know Anderson didn't have offers with 1st rd picks?

    3. If you think you actually know the answers to either of those questions, then how the hell did the Winslow trade go down with ZERO prior indications from anybody?

    What year are you talking about with 1sr round offer for DA?

    You actually think there is a chance we turned down an offer for a 1st for DA? Really? Come on.

  • @oconrecon said:

    Only the psychotic would think Quinn's rating matters. He doesn't have the numbers to conclude anything.

    okay so why don't you tell that to shep and his "GREATEST FIRST GAME AS A STARTER PASSER RATING IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF BROWNS FOOTBALL" argument?

    @lumbergh said:

    okay so why don't you tell that to shep and his "GREATEST FIRST GAME AS A STARTER PASSER RATING IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF BROWNS FOOTBALL" argument?

    Because YOURE the one thats been claiming its a relevant stat for Quinn! Dumbass

  • @vaportrail said:

    I mean, how do you turn down two offers w/ first round picks for a guy you don't intend to start.

    1. How do you know Quinn had two offers with 1st rd picks?

    2. How do you know Anderson didn't have offers with 1st rd picks?

    3. If you think you actually know the answers to either of those questions, then how the hell did the Winslow trade go down with ZERO prior indications from anybody?

    @lumbergh said:

    2. How do you know Anderson didn't have offers with 1st rd picks?

    That's classic stuff right there. Classic.

  • me tinks lums done lost it.........dis is too funny da psychotic be often and regular or sumtin..........whatever

  • @shepwrite said:

    I can't fathom a scenario where Quinn doesn't get at least a handful of starts in a row

    okay well I'll explain a scenario for you:

    He gets beat out in camp

    @lumbergh said:

    okay well I'll explain a scenario for you:

    He gets beat out in camp

    Wow. You really think Ratliff is that good?

  • @lumbergh said:

    2. How do you know Anderson didn't have offers with 1st rd picks?

    That's classic stuff right there. Classic.

    mz. said:

    That's classic stuff right there. Classic.

    So go ahead and tell us how all the offers went down, Quinn fag.

    and FYI, classic was listening to BQ Fags proclaim for 2 years that the Browns would be unstoppable when Quinn went in.......oops