Haden ....RELEASED
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If PoG hates this move, we all know it was the right move.
Go back to pining for Josh Gordon and Kevin Hogan, PoG.
Don't forget about Trent Richardson who is still on his way to the hall of fame in PoG retarded mind. Didn't watch a lot the preseason games all that closely but the one time I did see him was chasing 5 yards behind the Giants receiver on the play that Peppers got called for and then not called for hitting the receiver. Saw that play and thought glass Joe is in mid season form already...getting torched. He "might" be healthy but the injuries have taken their toll on him. Saw it on TV last night showing how badly he was getting burnt last year and how bad his technique had become.
He had his time here and gave it everything but it's time to move on.
Don't forget about Trent Richardson who is still on his way to the hall of fame in PoG Retarded mind. Didn't watch a lot the preseason games all that closely but the one time I did see him was chasing 5 yards behind the Giants receiver on the play that Peppers got called for and then not called for hitting the receiver. Saw that play and thought glass Joe is in mid season form already...getting torched. He "might" be healthy but the injuries have taken their toll on him. Saw it on TV last night showing how badly he was getting burnt last year and how bad his technique had become.
He had his time here and gave it everything but it's time to move on.
With the new setup, have we moved away from the "Retard" automatic change for the R word?
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Don't forget about Trent Richardson who is still on his way to the hall of fame in PoG Retarded mind. Didn't watch a lot the preseason games all that closely but the one time I did see him was chasing 5 yards behind the Giants receiver on the play that Peppers got called for and then not called for hitting the receiver. Saw that play and thought glass Joe is in mid season form already...getting torched. He "might" be healthy but the injuries have taken their toll on him. Saw it on TV last night showing how badly he was getting burnt last year and how bad his technique had become.
He had his time here and gave it everything but it's time to move on.
With the new setup, have we moved away from the "Retard" automatic change for the R word?
With the new setup, have we moved away from the "Retard" automatic change for the R word?
It would appear to be the case. And I think retard was about the nicest thing I could come up with to describe his ridiculous school girl loves for these players who apparently we should keep forever. Since loyalty is more important than winning, we should be still playing Bernie at QB.
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I wrote the words s-t-o-c-k-t-o-n s-h-o-r-t-s and it did an automatic change to the R word. Have we entered Wonderland Alice down is up and up is down?
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How did cutting dq work out for us? We got karlos dansby......and what legacy did he leave the browns? Nothing, he was here for a last paycheck. There was talk of dq immediately going to staff upon retirement.....doubt he'll ever come here under any capacity
Karlos Dansby was miles better than DQwell Jackson. At least Dansby would make a tackle on occasion that was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Jackson didn't.
Karlos Dansby was miles better than DQwell Jackson. At least Dansby would make a tackle on occasion that was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Jackson didn't.
Yeah no he wasnt miles better, his tackles were even further downfield. Dq's tackle stats for the same two years in indy were comparable but way more sacks than dansby. Which shows indy was more confident in blitzing him. Both teams were running 3-4's at the time so the positions were equivalent.
I woukd have taken dq's slightly less tackle totals and more sacks ONTOP of his heart for the browns.
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Im admittedly dont have a great eye for evaluating db's....if haden on tape is so bad he doesnt belong on an nfl field than fine, but it isnt like pgh doesnt see tgat tape either. They wouldnt give him 7m just fir some intel on a team they've been owning for years anyway
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Haden signed his big contract and immediately tanked. This isn't unexpected - if anything I'm surprised Sashi let it ride last season. Speaking of loyalty to Cleveland.. he wouldn't take the same contract from Cleveland that he accepted from Pit.. that's the definition of a LACK of loyalty.
True, we offered him $7 Million restructured deal, and he signed a three year $7 Million deal (first year) with the Steelers.
There's more to it than that though . . . by going to the Steelers for the same money, he also gets to keep $4 Million from the Browns deal (Guaranteed or Contract structure).
So actually it's for a Net of $4 Million more than he would have gotten here.
From the Browns side, with Joe signing elsewhere, they're also off the hook for some $ . . . not sure how much it is, but it's not all a one sided deal.
True, we offered him $7 Million restructured deal, and he signed a three year $7 Million deal (first year) with the Steelers.
There's more to it than that though . . . by going to the Steelers for the same money, he also gets to keep $4 Million from the Browns deal (Guaranteed or Contract structure).
So actually it's for a Net of $4 Million more than he would have gotten here.
From the Browns side, with Joe signing elsewhere, they're also off the hook for some $ . . . not sure how much it is, but it's not all a one sided deal.
Well the Browns just accelerated Joe's cap hit into this year- where we had plenty of room to do so.
Loyalty is more important than winning?? You're fucking insane. Do some research and see how much loyalty New England shows to its players and how has that worked out for them? I suppose you'd rather have them keep aging veterans and overpay them when they can't produce than win all those super bowls. Your new boyfriend mr. Haden took the same money to play for shittsburgh that the Browns offered, how's that work out in your "loyalty" rant schoolgirl?? Where is the loyalty that Haden showed the Browns since he took the same money to go elsewhere?
Our resident Pats fan pointed that out Mark. Belichick would cut his mother if he thought it would help him win more games. Lawyer Milloy, Richard Seymour, Legarrette Blount (who led the league in TDs las year) was willing to part ways with a very productive Randy Moss because he was a head case...
Maybe I should collect on that bet I made with Po way back on what Richardson was going to do. Hogan or best QB? F'in crazy headed to practice squad.
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True, we offered him $7 Million restructured deal, and he signed a three year $7 Million deal (first year) with the Steelers.
There's more to it than that though . . . by going to the Steelers for the same money, he also gets to keep $4 Million from the Browns deal (Guaranteed or Contract structure).
So actually it's for a Net of $4 Million more than he would have gotten here.
From the Browns side, with Joe signing elsewhere, they're also off the hook for some $ . . . not sure how much it is, but it's not all a one sided deal.
Well the Browns just accelerated Joe's cap hit into this year- where we had plenty of room to do so.
Loyalty is more important than winning?? You're fucking insane. Do some research and see how much loyalty New England shows to its players and how has that worked out for them? I suppose you'd rather have them keep aging veterans and overpay them when they can't produce than win all those super bowls. Your new boyfriend mr. Haden took the same money to play for shittsburgh that the Browns offered, how's that work out in your "loyalty" rant schoolgirl?? Where is the loyalty that Haden showed the Browns since he took the same money to go elsewhere?
Our resident Pats fan pointed that out Mark. Belichick would cut his mother if he thought it would help him win more games. Lawyer Milloy, Richard Seymour, Legarrette Blount (who led the league in TDs las year) was willing to part ways with a very productive Randy Moss because he was a head case...
Maybe I should collect on that bet I made with Po way back on what Richardson was going to do. Hogan or best QB? F'in crazy headed to practice squad.
Maybe I should collect on that bet I made with Po way back on what Richardson was going to do. Hogan or best QB? F'in crazy headed to practice squad. I think PG needs a big dose of tranxene or vallium.
Richardson is going to come back still and dominate, just like Manziel and Gordon. Can't wait to see the three of them on the same offense.
Based on his track record...if Po hates the move then it must be a good one for the Browns.
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@boo-fagley said:
Who is s t o c k t o n s h o r t s?
A Retard.....what did you think?
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A troll extraordinaire, a man with zero leather-bound books, a man with no fans.
Back on track: I like the move of getting rid of Haden. Add to the culture of winning by.. holding people accountable to actually win. Haden has stunk ever since he signed that contract - he gave up the most TD's of any CB in the league last season! This is sports: perform or you're out.
Urban Meyer has said publically that he's done recruiting from schools that have disorganized weight rooms and/or don't get after every detail of a player's performance -- because those are two characteristics of the loser mentality which it takes years to untwist players away from. Keeping Haden around would be maintaining the loser attitude throughout the Browns organization.
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Vontese Burbicks suspension from 5 games has been reduced to 3 games.
That hit was a mugging... 5 games was not enough.
simply put, every damn action has helped jimmy save money, and what have we done with that money? Aside from Collins what big names have we picked up?
I'm going with.... Zeitler. Let me know what I win.
@boo-fagley said:
Who is s t o c k t o n s h o r t s?
A Manzelot that tried... and failed... to get our collective minds right.
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@boo-fagley said:
I gathered that much.
Is he a real person? Old poster? Steeler fan?
Well, yes, as far as I know, he was a real person and an old poster (not a Steeler fan). But, he was a real tool, and if I recalled he was banned by the admins. (they would have to fill you in on that). Shortly after that someone took offense to the use of the R word on here...and the admins agreed and said they would have to come up with some term to use in lieu of that, and asked for suggestions. Quickly someone suggested the use of the SS term. the guy who came as close to being a real life R word as anyone ever has on here....so the admins immediately grabbed onto that. It had been a few years now that the autocorrect translated the R word into SS ow with the new board upgrade, that autocorrect may have been negated. Not sure.
Actually I see that the SS word now autocorrects to Retard.
Also...one other pain in the ass about what is happening on here. If you try to interlineate something inside what has already been typed, it is deleting what is already on there and you are losing what you typed. That is why above on occasion you see something that seems incomplete or unintelligible.
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Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.
Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.
T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?
does Ward have diminished skills too? Maybe some of our Bronco lurkers can fill us in....
Regarding Haden- it dawned on me what happened. assuming Joe and his booger agent Rosenhaus met with Sashi last week, it probably went like this.... The Browns told Joe we like you, but not at your current salary, so lets' renegotiate to what we feel you're worth. Rosenhaus of course said no- & you just saw the result. Been real Joe, adios.
does Ward have diminished skills too? Maybe some of our Bronco lurkers can fill us in....
Ward is still good, a bit of a liability in coverage but great in the box. Word is that he will be cut shortly if we can't find a trade. Matter of salary vs the confidence in his cheaper backup, Simmons.
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Even Brock Osweiler picked on Haden at practice? Sad!
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Sane take (again) by Terry Pluto...
Includes some PFF data indicating that playing in a zone might be Joe's strength at this point...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Sane take (again) by Terry Pluto...
Includes some PFF data indicating that playing in a zone might be Joe's strength at this point...
Sane take (again) by Terry Pluto...
Includes some PFF data indicating that playing in a zone might be Joe's strength at this point...
That is what the Vaginator said that the Steelers would do with him. It may help him.
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