Ok are we done with hogan now?
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Hogans air mailing every single throw is a head scratcher. Only thing i can come up with is that hue r pected him to make 1st team throws and he cant. To get the timing right he has to throw the ball 5 seconds before the wr's break. It was awful to watch.
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What did I say that you don't agree with?
Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?
The Defense let Watson toast them?
The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.
They won, no excuses about that from me.
Credit to Houston.
On to the next one.
Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.
What did I say that you don't agree with?
Young WRs made some rookie mistakes that turned out pretty costly?
The Defense let Watson toast them?
The Texans were the more physical and disciplined team today.
They won, no excuses about that from me.
Credit to Houston.
On to the next one.
Hogan is the answer. We need to play better around him.
I did not expect the Browns to win this game but was hoping for better QB play. If this is what we get out of Hogan we might as well just let Kizer play. I would have prefered Kizer sit to begin the year and was one reason why I wanted us to keep Osweiler around. But given what we have we should just roll with Kizer for the rest of the year, I didn't see anything today that showed me Hogan would give us a better change to win. I think its one thing to come off the bench and another to be the guy, the expectations are different and not everyone handles being the game. Yes out WRs suck, but over throwing them or under throwing them isn't a WR problem its a QB problem.
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Bad young teams don't lose this badly. TC. This is demonstrably worse than 1999.
+ This isn't a rookie defense.
There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.
Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?
That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.
There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.
Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?
That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.
Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
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There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.
Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?
That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.
Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought.
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Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought.
..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought.
Actually he prob would. In any case, danny made a good play...had a good dance too. I want these kids to have fun too. Nothing wrong with celebrating good play, ud hope it gets other guys hyped. It really didnt
danny is 6'2 330, he should be bulling the Shmuck out of ol 1v1. He should not be blockable without someone else helping/chipping
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There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.
Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?
That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.
Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
I’m actually decently there with you, he’s been underwhelming in my opinion. I’d like to see more Ogubjobi..
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There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.
Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?
That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.
Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If it makes ya feel any better
Sashi gave the Texans the 4th rd. pick to draft Carlos Watkins in the 16M dollar man deal of Booger AssWieler to boot..Winning!!
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Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
I’m actually decently there with you, he’s been underwhelming in my opinion. I’d like to see more Ogubjobi..
I’m actually decently there with you, he’s been underwhelming in my opinion. I’d like to see more Ogubjobi..
I understand they're two gapping him, and our run defense is actually pretty good up the middle and to the right side, opposite ogbah. So danny isnt worthless, but at the same time on passing downs....where is the collapse of the pocket? Wheres the push up the middle?
Watching the game im like who the Shmuck is this watkins nigga? Dude was just ripping under the guard and/or center all game long. Apparently our o line has no answer for that move
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I expected meder and shelton to be terrors up the middle of the pocket this year. Its possible with our subpar DE's ( not garrett) that williams isnt comfortable knifing them through gaps
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And yeah, I want Wentz and Watson to light it up every single week, so our dipshit office can see how bad they messed up two drafts in a row.
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I think nobody in our FO watched the college football playoffs last year.
Watkins was huge in the championship game. Foster was the name called for Bama all night, and of course we didn't get him either.
Essentially everyone who played big in that game was crossed off our list, including Deshaun
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No. No. No. No
There are MUCH better trans around those QBs. If you think they'd be doing the same thing on our team you're a Shmucking idiot.
"No no no!" is what we all thought when we passed on watson to go down and get Peppers instead.
Buckeyes and wolverines aside... Keep dreaming that he's a major impact player.
He's been crap, whether he's been used incorrectly, or whether he's just not nfl caliber, he's looked completely lost out there
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Peppers took a TD saving angle on that texans wr. Not saying peppers all of a sudden became our best player im just saying, the kids improving.
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But, but, but...it’s all Kizer’s fault. Can’t you see? If Kizer wasn’t starting we’d have 5 wins already. He’s the one keeping us from being a good team.
weeeeeheee heee heee heee....where the Shmuck is cleeeeeepsboard cheeeeeeezus....hahahahahahaaaaaa
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I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range.
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The only thing I want to highlight that I am 100% sick of is the Shmucking media declaring people the new franchise QB after a few decent showings. Its Shmucking annoying and the Cleveland media is the worst example of it around the league. Keep righting your stories about how player x was over looked until they got to the Browns. Please. Who the Shmuck came into this game think he was going to light anything up? Best case scenario he was going to have an average game. Just be honest about whats going on. Our coach didn't install a game plan for our rookie QB. Our rookie QB has sucked. Our "back up" QB ha doesn't have the talent to be a starter. Our only QB to show anything in an NFL game is inactive every week because he can't/won't throw the ball down field. Be Shmucking honest about it. At least Grossi calls this Sheet out as much of a Sheet can he is.
The only thing I want to highlight that I am 100% sick of is the Shmucking media declaring people the new franchise QB after a few decent showings. Its Shmucking annoying and the Cleveland media is the worst example of it around the league. Keep righting your stories about how player x was over looked until they got to the Browns. Please. Who the Shmuck came into this game think he was going to light anything up? Best case scenario he was going to have an average game. Just be honest about whats going on. Our coach didn't install a game plan for our rookie QB. Our rookie QB has sucked. Our "back up" QB ha doesn't have the talent to be a starter. Our only QB to show anything in an NFL game is inactive every week because he can't/won't throw the ball down field. Be Shmucking honest about it. At least Grossi calls this Sheet out as much of a Sheet can he is.
Yeah. The media’s the only one that does that..... ?
Time for GOATy Kessler
Lol
Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:
Time.
Got any other ideas? Bc our idiot fans aren’t going to give that.
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I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range.
I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range.
I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.
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I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range.
I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.
I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.
But yet Hue kept calling plays for a strong armed Qb
either Hue is stupid, he doesn’t care, or he’s sticking it to the front office. Any way this ORGANIZATION is the WORST IN NFL HISTORY
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Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.
If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing.
..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought.
..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought.
Nah, guys like Watkins just shove their hands up players’ arses up the play. Totally better.
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