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Ok are we done with hogan now?

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  • C Clevfan4life

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    There are two rookies starting, our MLB has zero starts prior to this season, our DT has zero starts before this season, our SS has only four starts before this season.

     Outside of Collins and JMac, our next most veteran player is...Kirksey? A guy who wasn’t even considered a full time starter until last season? Shelton... a guy drafted two years ago?

    That’s pretty Shmucking close to a rookie defense.

    Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.

    If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job. 

    If it makes ya feel any better😮 Sashi gave the Texans the 4th rd. pick to draft Carlos Watkins in the 16M dollar man deal of Booger AssWieler to boot..Winning!!

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @clevfan4life said:

    Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.

    If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing. 

    I’m actually decently there with you, he’s been underwhelming in my opinion. I’d like to see more Ogubjobi..

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I’m actually decently there with you, he’s been underwhelming in my opinion. I’d like to see more Ogubjobi..

    I understand they're two gapping him, and our run defense is actually pretty good up the middle and to the right side, opposite ogbah. So danny isnt worthless, but at the same time on passing downs....where is the collapse of the pocket? Wheres the push up the middle? 

    Watching the game im like who the Shmuck is this watkins nigga? Dude was just ripping under the guard and/or center all game long. Apparently our o line has no answer for that move

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  • I expected meder and shelton to be terrors up the middle of the pocket this year. Its possible with our subpar DE's ( not garrett) that williams isnt comfortable knifing them through gaps

  • S SD_Tom

    And yeah, I want Wentz and Watson to light it up every single week, so our dipshit office can see how bad they messed up two drafts in a row. 

    @sd_tom said:

    And yeah, I want Wentz and Watson to light it up every single week, so our dipshit office can see how bad they messed up two drafts in a row. 

    No. No. No. No

    There are MUCH better trans around those QBs. If you think they'd be doing the same thing on our team you're a Shmucking idiot.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • I think nobody in our FO watched the college football playoffs last year.

    Watkins was huge in the championship  game.  Foster was the name called for Bama all night,  and of course we didn't get him either.

    Essentially everyone who played big in that game was crossed off our list,  including Deshaun 

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @sd_tom said:

    And yeah, I want Wentz and Watson to light it up every single week, so our dipshit office can see how bad they messed up two drafts in a row. 

    No. No. No. No

    There are MUCH better trans around those QBs. If you think they'd be doing the same thing on our team you're a Shmucking idiot.

    @mld-woody said:

    No. No. No. No

    There are MUCH better trans around those QBs. If you think they'd be doing the same thing on our team you're a Shmucking idiot.

    "No no no!"  is what we all thought when we passed on watson to go down and get Peppers instead. 

    Buckeyes and wolverines aside... Keep dreaming that he's a major impact player. 

    He's been crap,  whether he's been used incorrectly,  or whether he's just not nfl caliber,  he's looked completely  lost out there 

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply

  • Peppers took a TD saving angle on that texans wr. Not saying peppers all of a sudden became our best player im just saying, the kids improving. 

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  • B browns52

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    But, but, but...it’s all Kizer’s fault. Can’t you see? If Kizer wasn’t starting we’d have 5 wins already. He’s the one keeping us from being a good team.

    weeeeeheee heee heee heee....where the Shmuck is cleeeeeepsboard cheeeeeeezus....hahahahahahaaaaaa

    @browns52 said:

    weeeeeheee heee heee heee....where the Shmuck is cleeeeeepsboard cheeeeeeezus....hahahahahahaaaaaa

    Your posts are getting wierder by the day. Either you are smoking some potent Sheet or you've got some full blown CTE damage showing 

  • I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range. 

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  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    The only thing I want to highlight that I am 100% sick of is the Shmucking media declaring people the new franchise QB after a few decent showings. Its Shmucking annoying and the Cleveland media is the worst example of it around the league. Keep righting your stories about how player x was over looked until they got to the Browns. Please. Who the Shmuck came into this game think he was going to light anything up? Best case scenario he was going to have an average game. Just be honest about whats going on. Our coach didn't install a game plan for our rookie QB. Our rookie QB has sucked. Our "back up" QB ha doesn't have the talent to be a starter. Our only QB to show anything in an NFL game is inactive every week because he can't/won't throw the ball down field. Be Shmucking honest about it. At least Grossi calls this Sheet out as much of a Sheet can he is. 

    @harry-buffalo said:

    The only thing I want to highlight that I am 100% sick of is the Shmucking media declaring people the new franchise QB after a few decent showings. Its Shmucking annoying and the Cleveland media is the worst example of it around the league. Keep righting your stories about how player x was over looked until they got to the Browns. Please. Who the Shmuck came into this game think he was going to light anything up? Best case scenario he was going to have an average game. Just be honest about whats going on. Our coach didn't install a game plan for our rookie QB. Our rookie QB has sucked. Our "back up" QB ha doesn't have the talent to be a starter. Our only QB to show anything in an NFL game is inactive every week because he can't/won't throw the ball down field. Be Shmucking honest about it. At least Grossi calls this Sheet out as much of a Sheet can he is. 

    Yeah. The media’s the only one that does that..... ?

    @bbedward said:

    Time for GOATy Kessler 

    Lol

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Same thing I’ve been saying the whole time:

    Time. 

    Got any other ideas? Bc our idiot fans aren’t going to give that. 

  • In fairness, our entire roster looks lost out there.  Not just Kizer and peppers 

  • jcam222J jcam222

    I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range. 

    @jcam222 said:

    I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range. 

    I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @jcam222 said:

    I sure was wrong about what I thought we'd get out of Hogan today. I haven't had a chance to rewatch to see if the INT's were horrible throws or borderline big plays. No excuses though he stunk it up. Having said that do you feel they game planned this to his strengths? I expected to see a lot more in the intermediate and screen range. 

    I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.

    But yet Hue kept calling plays for a strong armed Qb

    either Hue is stupid, he doesn’t care, or he’s sticking it to the front office.  Any way this ORGANIZATION is the WORST IN NFL HISTORY 

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • D BoneD D Bone

    @clevfan4life said:

    Sheltons on my bubble now. He has the next 9 or so games to prove he belongs. For comparison did u see how disruptive carlos watkins was? Their 4th round pick i beleive. Dude was doggy walking our o line into the backfield on the reg. Our o line to their credit took him around the qb and hogan was able to step up. But thats a compromised pocket, watkins did his job.

    If they had watt and mercilus, omg. Hogan would have had even less real estate to move around. This loss could have been worse which utterly depressing. 

    ..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought. 

    @d-bone said:

    ..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought. 

    Nah, guys like Watkins just shove their hands up players’ arses up the play. Totally better. 

  • W wargograw

    @d-bone said:

    ..... and I'm guessing Watkins won't dance like a fool after he makes a tackle in a game he's losing badly...... just a thought. 

    Nah, guys like Watkins just shove their hands up players’ arses up the play. Totally better. 

    @wargograw said:

    Nah, guys like Watkins just shove their hands up players’ arses up the play. Totally better. 

    Not sure what you're talking about (and don't really want to know), but I don't think that is better at all......  but if that kind of stuff floats your boat so be it. 

  • Browns149B Browns149

    @dutch-oven said:

    I expected a more professional performance. I was shocked by the consistency of bad throws, and how weak his arm is. I knew it isn't Kizer's, but it looked weeeeeaaaaaaaaak.

    But yet Hue kept calling plays for a strong armed Qb

    either Hue is stupid, he doesn’t care, or he’s sticking it to the front office.  Any way this ORGANIZATION is the WORST IN NFL HISTORY 

    @browns149 said:

    But yet Hue kept calling plays for a strong armed Qb

    either Hue is stupid, he doesn’t care, or he’s sticking it to the front office.  Any way this ORGANIZATION is the WORST IN NFL HISTORY 

    Hogan couldnt throw out to the flat dude, i mean wtf is hue supposed to call screens all day? If hogan couldnt make those throws what throws can he make?

  • C Clevfan4life

    @browns149 said:

    But yet Hue kept calling plays for a strong armed Qb

    either Hue is stupid, he doesn’t care, or he’s sticking it to the front office.  Any way this ORGANIZATION is the WORST IN NFL HISTORY 

    Hogan couldnt throw out to the flat dude, i mean wtf is hue supposed to call screens all day? If hogan couldnt make those throws what throws can he make?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Hogan couldnt throw out to the flat dude, i mean wtf is hue supposed to call screens all day? If hogan couldnt make those throws what throws can he make?

    How about a slant or a seam pass.  Somewhere that a dB wasn’t sitting on a route.  

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • I’m surprised we only gave up 1 pick 6

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @clevfan4life said:

    Hogan couldnt throw out to the flat dude, i mean wtf is hue supposed to call screens all day? If hogan couldnt make those throws what throws can he make?

    How about a slant or a seam pass.  Somewhere that a dB wasn’t sitting on a route.  

    @browns149 said:

    How about a slant or a seam pass.  Somewhere that a dB wasn’t sitting on a route.  

    Thats on hogan, he cant read defenses apparently. He air mailed shirt throws left and right today, it looks like he doesnt belong in the nfl at all. Those throws were worse than any i saw from weedon save the shovel pass. 

  • Notice Chicago and Trubisky won. 

    Also notice how trubisky threw very little,  but they ran it a ton.  Helped manage the game for them. 

    Hue would run it 10-12 times,  and have him throw it 40 - 50 times instead,  and that's one of many reasons why we suck

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