Report: Browns Begin Searching For New Football Executive
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Jimmy Donovan just reported that Peyton Manning was in Cleveland last week.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Why?
Here as in done with the Browns.
I believe in what we are doing... I see it's promise. If the plug gets pulled prematurely, I'm done.
Here as in done with the Browns.
I believe in what we are doing... I see it's promise. If the plug gets pulled prematurely, I'm done.
Completely Agree Tour. I really enjoy the philosophy and method this FO is using but its really in its infancy in our organization. My issues have been with coaching and scheme some personal preference and some obvious misuse. I just cant get my head around the fact we grabbed so many athletic in space playmakers and run a scheme thats predicated on low percentage plays better suited to veteran players. A good example is the vertical passing game is greatly enhanced when a wily vet can get the PI calls. Britt for example Excelled GREATLY in Crossing routes as did Cody Kessler AND Sammie Coates but we rarely run them now... Funnily enough Kessler had the Highest QB Rating in the league on these routes...
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Jimmy Donovan just reported that Peyton Manning was in Cleveland last week.
Jimmy Donovan just reported that Peyton Manning was in Cleveland last week.
He really likes him some pierogies...
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Why?
Here as in done with the Browns.
I believe in what we are doing... I see it's promise. If the plug gets pulled prematurely, I'm done.
Here as in done with the Browns.
I believe in what we are doing... I see it's promise. If the plug gets pulled prematurely, I'm done.
I agree and disagree. I believe in the draft capital approach to an extent - I don't believe in how we've gone about identifying the talent. I still can't find it in myself to get past a couple of the players we ignored.
This is where i believe Sashi needs his role reduced.
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Jimmy Donovan just reported that Peyton Manning was in Cleveland last week.
Jimmy Donovan just reported that Peyton Manning was in Cleveland last week.
Was he looking at houses in berea too?
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No Strongsville, he buying a house next door to Bill Cowher.
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Here as in done with the Browns.
I believe in what we are doing... I see it's promise. If the plug gets pulled prematurely, I'm done.
So you beleive in analytics so much that bringing football people in would disgust you so much? Im not 100% against analytics, it has its place but it might be in other sports.
I want former high level players making draft decisions, not a bean counter. You can use analytics deciding on established free agents and what their actual value is vs what they're asking for etc, etc. I just dont see how someone like sashi brown with no eye for what goes on when the pads come on, how his opinion can trump the opinion on...lets say a QB... of a guy like manning
So you beleive in analytics so much that bringing football people in would disgust you so much? Im not 100% against analytics, it has its place but it might be in other sports.
I want former high level players making draft decisions, not a bean counter. You can use analytics deciding on established free agents and what their actual value is vs what they're asking for etc, etc. I just dont see how someone like sashi brown with no eye for what goes on when the pads come on, how his opinion can trump the opinion on...lets say a QB... of a guy like manning
It's not "analytics vs. old-school". It's the consensus process we have instituted. That is what I love.
We tried your route from '99 thru '015. Give my way another couple years.
Completely Agree Tour. I really enjoy the philosophy and method this FO is using but its really in its infancy in our organization. My issues have been with coaching and scheme some personal preference and some obvious misuse. I just cant get my head around the fact we grabbed so many athletic in space playmakers and run a scheme thats predicated on low percentage plays better suited to veteran players. A good example is the vertical passing game is greatly enhanced when a wily vet can get the PI calls. Britt for example Excelled GREATLY in Crossing routes as did Cody Kessler AND Sammie Coates but we rarely run them now... Funnily enough Kessler had the Highest QB Rating in the league on these routes...
"Louis, this may be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
I agree and disagree. I believe in the draft capital approach to an extent - I don't believe in how we've gone about identifying the talent. I still can't find it in myself to get past a couple of the players we ignored.
This is where i believe Sashi needs his role reduced.
First, "Sashi's role", and the consensus approach it represents, is precisely what I believe in.
Second, we all can name players we did not pick that we'd have preferred in varying degrees due to hindsight. Most of mine are either darkhorse QBs or OL, but Ibranched out this year and nailed a couple FS's... and of whom would look pretty good in Centerfield this season freeing Peppers to be Peppers. But I also know I'd have missed Njoku and Ogunjobi and Dayes and Schobert and Kindred and...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Peyton would likely bring someone like Bill Polian on with him....to consult or otherwise.
I would hope.
Mike Holmgren had a ton of experience in the NFL, the same winning pedigree as Manning but in a different position, and was mediocre at best as a front office exec.
I'm not saying Manning couldn't be successful, I just wonder if some people love the idea of Manning because he's a big name.
I'm not saying Manning couldn't be successful, I just wonder if some people love the idea of Manning because he's a big name.
Admit it... you really don't wonder about this... c'mon... it's OK... you can admit it.
There is zero evidence Manning has the chops to be a GM.
As for Polian.... why is it he would be available? And this is coming from a guy who listens when Bill speaks.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm not saying Manning couldn't be successful, I just wonder if some people love the idea of Manning because he's a big name.
Admit it... you really don't wonder about this... c'mon... it's OK... you can admit it.
There is zero evidence Manning has the chops to be a GM.
As for Polian.... why is it he would be available? And this is coming from a guy who listens when Bill speaks.
Admit it... you really don't wonder about this... c'mon... it's OK... you can admit it.
There is zero evidence Manning has the chops to be a GM.
As for Polian.... why is it he would be available? And this is coming from a guy who listens when Bill speaks.
Not saying it is impossible, but the list of Hall of Fame players who became even above average head coaches/managers/GMs in football/baseball/basketball isn't a real lengthy one.
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Yes. And no we haven’t. Last year’s team was far worse.
Defensively yes, offensively i cant really tell if we're better or worse yet.
Defensively yes, offensively i cant really tell if we're better or worse yet.
We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
Because I'm a fan W. Doesn't mean I have to have blinders on. That was major suckage 20+ games into a rebuild? We're the football equivalent of the Cubs loveable losers, deal with it.
I am dealing with it. You’re the one whining and being impatient. Just wait a year. Next year will be fun.
If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.
all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.
Get that football insight outta here
I don't agree wit Jimmy, Jimmy is the problem, dare I say Jimmy is the #1 enemy (a Steelers loving crook).
He WAS the problem (with his revolving door), and if he fired the current regime, he will prove that he still is. But as long as he doesn’t, he’s not.
I hate hearing from people on this board talking about players we should have taken. If we had taken Carr, he would've been more beat up than he is now. The fact is we've been trying to get good talent, but we don't give coaches enough time. Our fans want the coaches to go after one or two years. I still think we need to give them at least 3-5 years. Again, no team has a worse record than we do when it comes to firing coaches. How many have we had since '99? I forgot.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
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Defensively yes, offensively i cant really tell if we're better or worse yet.
We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
Because I'm a fan W. Doesn't mean I have to have blinders on. That was major suckage 20+ games into a rebuild? We're the football equivalent of the Cubs loveable losers, deal with it.
I am dealing with it. You’re the one whining and being impatient. Just wait a year. Next year will be fun.
If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.
all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.
Get that football insight outta here
I don't agree wit Jimmy, Jimmy is the problem, dare I say Jimmy is the #1 enemy (a Steelers loving crook).
He WAS the problem (with his revolving door), and if he fired the current regime, he will prove that he still is. But as long as he doesn’t, he’s not.
I hate hearing from people on this board talking about players we should have taken. If we had taken Carr, he would've been more beat up than he is now. The fact is we've been trying to get good talent, but we don't give coaches enough time. Our fans want the coaches to go after one or two years. I still think we need to give them at least 3-5 years. Again, no team has a worse record than we do when it comes to firing coaches. How many have we had since '99? I forgot.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
We all know it was the homeless guy’s fault.
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Defensively yes, offensively i cant really tell if we're better or worse yet.
We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
Because I'm a fan W. Doesn't mean I have to have blinders on. That was major suckage 20+ games into a rebuild? We're the football equivalent of the Cubs loveable losers, deal with it.
I am dealing with it. You’re the one whining and being impatient. Just wait a year. Next year will be fun.
If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.
all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.
Get that football insight outta here
I don't agree wit Jimmy, Jimmy is the problem, dare I say Jimmy is the #1 enemy (a Steelers loving crook).
He WAS the problem (with his revolving door), and if he fired the current regime, he will prove that he still is. But as long as he doesn’t, he’s not.
I hate hearing from people on this board talking about players we should have taken. If we had taken Carr, he would've been more beat up than he is now. The fact is we've been trying to get good talent, but we don't give coaches enough time. Our fans want the coaches to go after one or two years. I still think we need to give them at least 3-5 years. Again, no team has a worse record than we do when it comes to firing coaches. How many have we had since '99? I forgot.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
When McC left, that the O would decline was a given.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
Well, when you draft so many busts under "football guy" regimes, it's hard not to blame the Farmers and Holmgrens and the (fill in the blanks).
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Defensively yes, offensively i cant really tell if we're better or worse yet.
We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
Because I'm a fan W. Doesn't mean I have to have blinders on. That was major suckage 20+ games into a rebuild? We're the football equivalent of the Cubs loveable losers, deal with it.
I am dealing with it. You’re the one whining and being impatient. Just wait a year. Next year will be fun.
If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.
all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.
Get that football insight outta here
I don't agree wit Jimmy, Jimmy is the problem, dare I say Jimmy is the #1 enemy (a Steelers loving crook).
He WAS the problem (with his revolving door), and if he fired the current regime, he will prove that he still is. But as long as he doesn’t, he’s not.
I hate hearing from people on this board talking about players we should have taken. If we had taken Carr, he would've been more beat up than he is now. The fact is we've been trying to get good talent, but we don't give coaches enough time. Our fans want the coaches to go after one or two years. I still think we need to give them at least 3-5 years. Again, no team has a worse record than we do when it comes to firing coaches. How many have we had since '99? I forgot.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
We all sit here on pins and needles, so please All Mighty Glorious One, please enlighten us humble, simple knownuthins with your vast football knowledge as to what "the something else" is...
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So you beleive in analytics so much that bringing football people in would disgust you so much? Im not 100% against analytics, it has its place but it might be in other sports.
I want former high level players making draft decisions, not a bean counter. You can use analytics deciding on established free agents and what their actual value is vs what they're asking for etc, etc. I just dont see how someone like sashi brown with no eye for what goes on when the pads come on, how his opinion can trump the opinion on...lets say a QB... of a guy like manning
It's not "analytics vs. old-school". It's the consensus process we have instituted. That is what I love.
We tried your route from '99 thru '015. Give my way another couple years.
Completely Agree Tour. I really enjoy the philosophy and method this FO is using but its really in its infancy in our organization. My issues have been with coaching and scheme some personal preference and some obvious misuse. I just cant get my head around the fact we grabbed so many athletic in space playmakers and run a scheme thats predicated on low percentage plays better suited to veteran players. A good example is the vertical passing game is greatly enhanced when a wily vet can get the PI calls. Britt for example Excelled GREATLY in Crossing routes as did Cody Kessler AND Sammie Coates but we rarely run them now... Funnily enough Kessler had the Highest QB Rating in the league on these routes...
"Louis, this may be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
I agree and disagree. I believe in the draft capital approach to an extent - I don't believe in how we've gone about identifying the talent. I still can't find it in myself to get past a couple of the players we ignored.
This is where i believe Sashi needs his role reduced.
First, "Sashi's role", and the consensus approach it represents, is precisely what I believe in.
Second, we all can name players we did not pick that we'd have preferred in varying degrees due to hindsight. Most of mine are either darkhorse QBs or OL, but Ibranched out this year and nailed a couple FS's... and of whom would look pretty good in Centerfield this season freeing Peppers to be Peppers. But I also know I'd have missed Njoku and Ogunjobi and Dayes and Schobert and Kindred and...
First, "Sashi's role", and the consensus approach it represents, is precisely what I believe in.
Second, we all can name players we did not pick that we'd have preferred in varying degrees due to hindsight. Most of mine are either darkhorse QBs or OL, but Ibranched out this year and nailed a couple FS's... and of whom would look pretty good in Centerfield this season freeing Peppers to be Peppers. But I also know I'd have missed Njoku and Ogunjobi and Dayes and Schobert and Kindred and...
I was lead to believe Sashi's role would be a marriage of analytics and football minds. Instead I haven't found that to always be the case and when we seem to give our obligatory "coaches pick" that goes off the rails as well. I.E. Kess and Peppers. Basically if we aren't picking right off of PFF's boards we're going with the "HE'S A FOOTBALL PLAYER RARRARARR" crowd. These are two dogmatic approaches that scare the Sheet out of me.
I can't really credit our current draft approach for finding Njoku or Ogunjobi. The former was a well sought after prospect that came to us during a run on his position and the other was dug up after our coaching staff was able to get hands on during the senior bowl. I yield Dayes, Schobert and Kindred. Though the first of those three has yet to see any meaningful NFL action.
I agree, we need to give this more time. But I still believe this organization, more than anything, needs a 'no' man. Someone that believes in the idea of what our FO is attempting, but is willing to interject some common sense and genuine football when need be. And vice versa, someone to settle down the "FOOSBALL PLAYAAAAA" bunch. As of right now, that person doesn't exist in this franchise AFAIC.
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Defensively yes, offensively i cant really tell if we're better or worse yet.
We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
Because I'm a fan W. Doesn't mean I have to have blinders on. That was major suckage 20+ games into a rebuild? We're the football equivalent of the Cubs loveable losers, deal with it.
I am dealing with it. You’re the one whining and being impatient. Just wait a year. Next year will be fun.
If we change the defense again omg fuk all of u. Srsly if i see myles garrett chasing slot wr's downfield next year im done being a browns fan, which mrans football is over for me. The browns are the only thing i give a fuk about in the nfl. If we bring in some new fgt DC that changes scheme again and takes us back to 31st in all categories, im done.
all of u that would entertain even the thought of swapping dc's again need to just burn ur browns gear and just go riot fir another team. U show how profoundly ignorant u are of how football works. Defenses arent plug in play things that swapping a new scheme in and out makes a light go on. We have players from previous defenses that need rooted out and evicted, thst doesnt change overnight. Swap schemes again and we create a whole new mismatch of characters omg fuk u fuk u fuk u fuk u right in ur mouths.
Get that football insight outta here
I don't agree wit Jimmy, Jimmy is the problem, dare I say Jimmy is the #1 enemy (a Steelers loving crook).
He WAS the problem (with his revolving door), and if he fired the current regime, he will prove that he still is. But as long as he doesn’t, he’s not.
I hate hearing from people on this board talking about players we should have taken. If we had taken Carr, he would've been more beat up than he is now. The fact is we've been trying to get good talent, but we don't give coaches enough time. Our fans want the coaches to go after one or two years. I still think we need to give them at least 3-5 years. Again, no team has a worse record than we do when it comes to firing coaches. How many have we had since '99? I forgot.
You’d think at some point with so many GMs people would say “hey maybe they’re not the problem, maybe it’s something else.” But nope. People actually think it’s just GM’s faults that we’ve missed on so many first rounders.
1) We’re slightly worse there, but on the net, this team is far better.
2)I am dealing with it. You’re the one whining and being impatient. Just wait a year. Next year will be fun.
3)He WAS the problem (with his revolving door), and if he fired the current regime, he will prove that he still is. But as long as he doesn’t, he’s not.
1) A far better team should have been able to at least muster a few points in the first half against the very mediocre Colts, probably even have gotten a win.
2) The impatient # of Browns fans is legion, and growing after each successive loss. So don't single me out. And in case you don't realize it- there's a good number of us on the board- me, Cal, Canton Mike (that I personally have met) are running out of "next years" fast. I really have no choice but to be "patient" But that doesn't mean as a season ticket holder I'm thrilled about the product I'm shelling out money to see play like garbage. And don't tell me to dump them, unless you want to write me a check for $20,000 to buy back in when (in the far distant future) they're actually a playoff team.
3) OK, Jimmy give 'em 5 years- if we still suck, do us all a favor and sell the team.
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There isn’t a team in the NFL that will stand pat in the FO, or HC through 5 years of suck age. Ain’t happening.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
The problem I see since 99 is that we put a foundation in place and then continually tear it down and start over. There is no continuity. Players were drafted for one scheme and then when there is regime change new philosophies are implemented and different type players needed for the new schemes on offense and defense. That is the reason I don't want to start over again but we have to have the right foundation to start with. Expectations were not high this year but I thought we would be better than this. Coming off 1-15 last year I thought we might get 6 wins this year and be in play off contention next year but we are staring at a winless season right now. Not seeing improvement from last year and that should not be a hard bar to achieve.
I would have liked to see us go a different route. A simple philosophy of hiring the best available as HC and the FO and then having the confidence to stay with them and give them time to succeed. In hiring the best to look at their track records. If they have a prior track record of success that is a good indication with time they will be successful with the Browns. I believe that formula would have worked many years ago.
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The problem I see since 99 is that we put a foundation in place and then continually tear it down and start over. There is no continuity. Players were drafted for one scheme and then when there is regime change new philosophies are implemented and different type players needed for the new schemes on offense and defense. That is the reason I don't want to start over again but we have to have the right foundation to start with. Expectations were not high this year but I thought we would be better than this. Coming off 1-15 last year I thought we might get 6 wins this year and be in play off contention next year but we are staring at a winless season right now. Not seeing improvement from last year and that should not be a hard bar to achieve.
I would have liked to see us go a different route. A simple philosophy of hiring the best available as HC and the FO and then having the confidence to stay with them and give them time to succeed. In hiring the best to look at their track records. If they have a prior track record of success that is a good indication with time they will be successful with the Browns. I believe that formula would have worked many years ago.
The problem I see since 99 is that we put a foundation in place and then continually tear it down and start over. There is no continuity. Players were drafted for one scheme and then when there is regime change new philosophies are implemented and different type players needed for the new schemes on offense and defense. That is the reason I don't want to start over again but we have to have the right foundation to start with. Expectations were not high this year but I thought we would be better than this. Coming off 1-15 last year I thought we might get 6 wins this year and be in play off contention next year but we are staring at a winless season right now. Not seeing improvement from last year and that should not be a hard bar to achieve.
I would have liked to see us go a different route. A simple philosophy of hiring the best available as HC and the FO and then having the confidence to stay with them and give them time to succeed. In hiring the best to look at their track records. If they have a prior track record of success that is a good indication with time they will be successful with the Browns. I believe that formula would have worked many years ago.
Are you insinuating that the Browns didn't hire the best on purpose? It takes two to tango, just because the Browns want someone doesn't mean that person wanted the Browns. Look at some head coaches we've had recently, guys who didn't even get an interview with another team. There's a reason for that.
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The problem I see since 99 is that we put a foundation in place and then continually tear it down and start over. There is no continuity. Players were drafted for one scheme and then when there is regime change new philosophies are implemented and different type players needed for the new schemes on offense and defense. That is the reason I don't want to start over again but we have to have the right foundation to start with. Expectations were not high this year but I thought we would be better than this. Coming off 1-15 last year I thought we might get 6 wins this year and be in play off contention next year but we are staring at a winless season right now. Not seeing improvement from last year and that should not be a hard bar to achieve.
I would have liked to see us go a different route. A simple philosophy of hiring the best available as HC and the FO and then having the confidence to stay with them and give them time to succeed. In hiring the best to look at their track records. If they have a prior track record of success that is a good indication with time they will be successful with the Browns. I believe that formula would have worked many years ago.
Are you insinuating that the Browns didn't hire the best on purpose? It takes two to tango, just because the Browns want someone doesn't mean that person wanted the Browns. Look at some head coaches we've had recently, guys who didn't even get an interview with another team. There's a reason for that.
Are you insinuating that the Browns didn't hire the best on purpose? It takes two to tango, just because the Browns want someone doesn't mean that person wanted the Browns. Look at some head coaches we've had recently, guys who didn't even get an interview with another team. There's a reason for that.
Through the years since 99 the Browns obviously didn't think they hired the best for their positions or they wouldn't have fired them every other year. My guess is that turnover rate as much as anything now is a good reason many may not want to work for this organization. If they take the job will they be given enough time to turn things around before being fired?
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Interesting article supporting Tour's, War's and others' opinion on having to Trust The Process:
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