So if Jackson is gone...
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OK, but lets assume that Haslam does want to bring in an overseer to be DFO......and that it won't be Peyton......who could/should it be.
Because I am ready for it to happen.
do not know. sort of like the holmgren experiment if you ask me.
haslam just needs to hire better or bring in some local billionaire (cough lebron cough) who might be able to judge talent.
do not know. sort of like the holmgren experiment if you ask me.
haslam just needs to hire better or bring in some local billionaire (cough lebron cough) who might be able to judge talent.
The thing about the "Holmgren experiment" is that it was not really a bad idea...it was just a bad choice of who to select.
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add the GM who just got canned from the cavs to the FO. make it a trifecta. at least he knows talent.
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It may be the exact kind of challenge that Manning would want, yes.
i get that. better men have tried and failed. i'm sure they wish the new era browns were not on their life resume and could get those years back.
plus, what are his qualifications? selling pizza?
let him stick to what he's good at.....being a d.i.c.k.
i get that. better men have tried and failed. i'm sure they wish the new era browns were not on their life resume and could get those years back.
plus, what are his qualifications? selling pizza?
let him stick to what he's good at.....being a d.i.c.k.
Many have tried and failed who are as qualified as the Cleveland Browns front office too.
Not very many have achieved this lack of success though. So far... now it's up to their salesmanship skills and not their football acumen. They have to sell the owner on another season and a half.
WSS
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It's getting harder and harder not to board the Fire Hue Train. What respected head coach declines a personal foul that would have pushed them out of FG range, then his great undertudies proceed to jump offsides on 4th and 1, all aboard! Last trains about to leave the station.
It's getting harder and harder not to board the Fire Hue Train.
Yeah, it is... but IMHO it's lame to pile on the penalty decline.
Kind of an aside, but I was looking into Hue's "Coaching Tree" last week. He doesn't exactly spring from heavyweight limbs nor give rise to substantial twigs...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
i get that. better men have tried and failed. i'm sure they wish the new era browns were not on their life resume and could get those years back.
plus, what are his qualifications? selling pizza?
let him stick to what he's good at.....being a d.i.c.k.
Many have tried and failed who are as qualified as the Cleveland Browns front office too.
Not very many have achieved this lack of success though. So far... now it's up to their salesmanship skills and not their football acumen. They have to sell the owner on another season and a half.
WSS
Many have tried and failed who are as qualified as the Cleveland Browns front office too.
Not very many have achieved this lack of success though. So far... now it's up to their salesmanship skills and not their football acumen. They have to sell the owner on another season and a half.
WSS
that's who i was talking about, the FO. the hue jackson thing, to me, is moot. he has no talent to work with. now if he's the one that is pulling these qb selections out of the hat then there is no excuse and should be gone.....today. but i find that hardly unlikely.
my basis for my earlier rant is based upon the fans who just turn like ravenous zombies on one regime because they don't like them for some reason but are willing to go the extra mile for another who's record and talent and ability to have players play hard every week is not even close.
hated mangini? i give you hue jackson. hated pettine and farmer? i give you hue jackson and these gems of talent evaluators. butch davis? jackson.
flippant asshats.
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It's getting harder and harder not to board the Fire Hue Train.
Yeah, it is... but IMHO it's lame to pile on the penalty decline.
Kind of an aside, but I was looking into Hue's "Coaching Tree" last week. He doesn't exactly spring from heavyweight limbs nor give rise to substantial twigs...
Yeah, it is... but IMHO it's lame to pile on the penalty decline.
Kind of an aside, but I was looking into Hue's "Coaching Tree" last week. He doesn't exactly spring from heavyweight limbs nor give rise to substantial twigs...
Just about every tree has its rotten apple. But what you are saying is that he doesn't even come off a tree. More like a rotten turnip.
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Yeah, it is... but IMHO it's lame to pile on the penalty decline.
Kind of an aside, but I was looking into Hue's "Coaching Tree" last week. He doesn't exactly spring from heavyweight limbs nor give rise to substantial twigs...
Just about every tree has its rotten apple. But what you are saying is that he doesn't even come off a tree. More like a rotten turnip.
Just about every tree has its rotten apple. But what you are saying is that he doesn't even come off a tree. More like a rotten turnip truck.
FIFY
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give hue a 3rd year marching tune from you assholes who couldn't wait to get of mangini or pettine after their 2nd.
hyp-o-friggin-criti-fuggin-cal 2 faced douchebags.
you deserve this bag of lit dog Sheet on your porch....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
give hue a 3rd year marching tune from you assholes who couldn't wait to get of mangini or pettine after their 2nd.
hyp-o-friggin-criti-fuggin-cal 2 faced douchebags.
you deserve this bag of lit dog Sheet on your porch....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Sorry mix, I've never wanted any of our coaches to go sooner that 3 years, regardless of how badly they were doing. We need consistency and you never know if a coach will turn things around with more time.
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I wanted Pettine and Mangini and Chud to get more time. I wanted Shurmur fired pretty soon after he was hired. I've tried to stay on the keep Hue train but I just don't see it getting any better. Game day decisions are horrible, yanking Kizer in and out of games this season has just been lame considering he left Hogan out there after 3 first half picks, but has less patience with his 21 year old "big future for the franchise" guy?
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I wanted Pettine and Mangini and Chud to get more time. I wanted Shurmur fired pretty soon after he was hired. I've tried to stay on the keep Hue train but I just don't see it getting any better. Game day decisions are horrible, yanking Kizer in and out of games this season has just been lame considering he left Hogan out there after 3 first half picks, but has less patience with his 21 year old "big future for the franchise" guy?
I wanted Pettine and Mangini and Chud to get more time. I wanted Shurmur fired pretty soon after he was hired. I've tried to stay on the keep Hue train but I just don't see it getting any better.
With you on Pet and Mangenius... Chud? Not so much... although he did attract one good coordinators in Norv. Patsy attracted two, but if there was ever a HC doomed by his FO, it was Shurmur's death by Wheezy.
Hue... well... I think I've been pretty clear on him. Conditional retention...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I wanted Pettine and Mangini and Chud to get more time. I wanted Shurmur fired pretty soon after he was hired. I've tried to stay on the keep Hue train but I just don't see it getting any better.
With you on Pet and Mangenius... Chud? Not so much... although he did attract one good coordinators in Norv. Patsy attracted two, but if there was ever a HC doomed by his FO, it was Shurmur's death by Wheezy.
Hue... well... I think I've been pretty clear on him. Conditional retention...
Hue... well... I think I've been pretty clear on him. Conditional retention...
Conditional retention regardless of record? Meaning if we go 0-16 or 1-15 this season making him a 1 or 2 win coach over 2 seasons you bring him back again for a 3rd year? And what is the conditional retention? I'm guessing he needs to hire an OC to take over the play calling. I guess I could live with that especially if the OC is a guy who could move into the HC role.
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Hue... well... I think I've been pretty clear on him. Conditional retention...
Conditional retention regardless of record? Meaning if we go 0-16 or 1-15 this season making him a 1 or 2 win coach over 2 seasons you bring him back again for a 3rd year? And what is the conditional retention? I'm guessing he needs to hire an OC to take over the play calling. I guess I could live with that especially if the OC is a guy who could move into the HC role.
Conditional retention regardless of record? Meaning if we go 0-16 or 1-15 this season making him a 1 or 2 win coach over 2 seasons you bring him back again for a 3rd year? And what is the conditional retention? I'm guessing he needs to hire an OC to take over the play calling. I guess I could live with that especially if the OC is a guy who could move into the HC role.
Yes...unless he said something behind the scenes along the lines of "I can make a Kessler-Hogan-Kizer QB room work" and guaranteed a number of victories... yes. I don't think he said any such thing.
More so when add in the loss of Coleman and the Britt that showed up. I'd even consider retention in spite of if making the above statement.
But conditional retention...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Conditional retention regardless of record? Meaning if we go 0-16 or 1-15 this season making him a 1 or 2 win coach over 2 seasons you bring him back again for a 3rd year? And what is the conditional retention? I'm guessing he needs to hire an OC to take over the play calling. I guess I could live with that especially if the OC is a guy who could move into the HC role.
Yes...unless he said something behind the scenes along the lines of "I can make a Kessler-Hogan-Kizer QB room work" and guaranteed a number of victories... yes. I don't think he said any such thing.
More so when add in the loss of Coleman and the Britt that showed up. I'd even consider retention in spite of if making the above statement.
But conditional retention...
Yes...unless he said something behind the scenes along the lines of "I can make a Kessler-Hogan-Kizer QB room work" and guaranteed a number of victories... yes. I don't think he said any such thing.
More so when add in the loss of Coleman and the Britt that showed up. I'd even consider retention in spite of if making the above statement.
But conditional retention...
I hope he didn't say anything like that, if he did he's as good as gone. But Tour- it's plain as mud now, barring a miracle turnaround- we're taking a qb with our first pick in 2018. Right now, it's not going to be lower than #2 overall, and almost a lead pipe lock bet it's going to be in the top 5.
From ESPN- "The Browns are just the fourth franchise in the Super Bowl era to start 0-7 in back-to-back seasons. Their chances to win the division are nonexistent, but their chances to "earn" the top pick in next year's draft are through the roof. The Browns are a 58.4 percent favorite to pick first, according to FPI."
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Conditional retention? Kinda sounds more like a side effect for a stomach medication instead of a football coach.
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