AJ McCarron
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That's terrifying price to pay for an audition. It's also terrifying to think that he might have played "decent" and the Browns might have skipped over another top QB because of AJ McCarron.
I don't disagree....But that's how I would see it playing out. You don't give up 2 picks for a guy without playing him the rest of the way. And what if he goes say 4-4 the rest of the way with 60+ completion percentage and say..10 TD's and 5 int's. I don't think you draft another QB high in round 1 if that's the case.
I don't disagree....But that's how I would see it playing out. You don't give up 2 picks for a guy without playing him the rest of the way. And what if he goes say 4-4 the rest of the way with 60+ completion percentage and say..10 TD's and 5 int's. I don't think you draft another QB high in round 1 if that's the case.
Here's another thing I just realized Mark. The attempted McCarron move officially threw Kizer under the bus. Not like I've been preaching it from Day One that I didn't like Deshone at all. Some of the brain trust on the Browns was just a little bit slower coming to the realization.
It gets you to thinking Hue got outvoted by the "consensus" anal-itics guys a bunch of times, he got tired of Sashi and DePo's crap and went directly to the uber boss telling him- "I can't win with Kizer." What this means to me is either Hue or Sashi are gone, or Sashi at the very least is going to get demoted to contract only work.
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not a fan of AJ and don't want him, but you know who else we 'wasted' a second and third on? The hot garbage that is Kessler and Kizer....thats your 2nd and 3rd right there as well.
So the idea that this front office or hue would value total garbage as being worth a 2nd and 3rd sounds about right.
And heck as much as I wouldnt want AJ he's better than kessler + kizer
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Hue should just go full on rogue.... Speak his mind at his press conferences and if a question leads to one or more of the Brain Trust Jackoffs in the FO needing to get thrown under the bus for one of their brilliant personnel decisions , phucking do it.
God I hate these phukers.
Hue should just go full on rogue.... Speak his mind at his press conferences and if a question leads to one or more of the Brain Trust Jackoffs in the FO needing to get thrown under the bus for one of their brilliant personnel decisions , phucking do it.
God I hate these phukers.
Speak his mind? Who wants to hear that schidt? Isn't it bad enough that we have to watch the dumb bastard on Sunday?
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Here's the problem. It doesn't MATTER whose fault it was, it's just another example of how we screwed the donkey and we look absolutely ridiculous...again.
I pretty much hate everything to do with our team right now. The thought of watching Kizer play more games makes me want to vomit, and what's worse is the impending feeling of doom due to the fact we're probably going to blow it all up again. I'm not saying it's what I want, but I feel it coming.
Here's the problem. It doesn't MATTER whose fault it was, it's just another example of how we screwed the donkey and we look absolutely ridiculous...again.
I pretty much hate everything to do with our team right now. The thought of watching Kizer play more games makes me want to vomit, and what's worse is the impending feeling of doom due to the fact we're probably going to blow it all up again. I'm not saying it's what I want, but I feel it coming.
Don't say you don't want to see it blown up as you make fun of everyone involved. What do you think makes Jimmy want to blow it up? Fan disgruntlement.
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Here's the problem. It doesn't MATTER whose fault it was, it's just another example of how we screwed the donkey and we look absolutely ridiculous...again.
I pretty much hate everything to do with our team right now. The thought of watching Kizer play more games makes me want to vomit, and what's worse is the impending feeling of doom due to the fact we're probably going to blow it all up again. I'm not saying it's what I want, but I feel it coming.
Don't say you don't want to see it blown up as you make fun of everyone involved. What do you think makes Jimmy want to blow it up? Fan disgruntlement.
Don't say you don't want to see it blown up as you make fun of everyone involved. What do you think makes Jimmy want to blow it up? Fan disgruntlement.
I wouldn't blame the fans when Jimmy went over the front office to try to please Hue and they disobeyed him. My theory is Hue convinced Jimmy the process isn't working and a lawyer and baseball guy can't make draft picks.
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Don't say you don't want to see it blown up as you make fun of everyone involved. What do you think makes Jimmy want to blow it up? Fan disgruntlement.
I wouldn't blame the fans when Jimmy went over the front office to try to please Hue and they disobeyed him. My theory is Hue convinced Jimmy the process isn't working and a lawyer and baseball guy can't make draft picks.
My theory is Hue convinced Jimmy the process isn't working and a lawyer and baseball guy can't make draft picks.
That’s my concern rather than theory, the quotes are out there from Jimmeh that the 2018 season was the one they were looking at back when they blew it up in 2016.
And here we are halfway through 2017 and everything suggests he wanted to throw away two draft picks over the front offices heads before we’ve even had the bye weekend.
IF it’s the case he’s already backing off the original plan and meddling once again in team affairs then the Browns have no chance while he is owner. Nothing good will ever happen here under Haslam.
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Albert Breer from MMQB was on the local sports radio show on the commute home today.
According to him, the Bengals and the Browns struck a deal early yesterday afternoon.
The Browns subsequently backed out of said deal, then came full circle and wanted to do the deal.
The clock ran out on the deal, and the rest is history.
Albert Breer from MMQB was on the local sports radio show on the commute home today.
According to him, the Bengals and the Browns struck a deal early yesterday afternoon.
The Browns subsequently backed out of said deal, then came full circle and wanted to do the deal.
The clock ran out on the deal, and the rest is history.
Ya, how bout that Harvard graduate? Lol
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There is absolutely no way this organization remains intact after this.
I don't know exactly what happened, but someone was grossly incompetent yesterday.
Someone thought A.J. McCarron was worth a 2nd and 3rd rounder, and someone messed up making the trade. (And "messed up" might have been the front office sabotaging a horrible deal on purpose.) IMO, the signs, at minimum, are SCREAMING that Hue is gone.
Here's something to ponder: Would the Browns have used their top pick next draft on a QB if they used a 2nd and 3rd rounder from the same draft on McCarron?
There is absolutely no way this organization remains intact after this.
I don't know exactly what happened, but someone was grossly incompetent yesterday.
Someone thought A.J. McCarron was worth a 2nd and 3rd rounder, and someone messed up making the trade. (And "messed up" might have been the front office sabotaging a horrible deal on purpose.) IMO, the signs, at minimum, are SCREAMING that Hue is gone.
Here's something to ponder: Would the Browns have used their top pick next draft on a QB if they used a 2nd and 3rd rounder from the same draft on McCarron?
The whole thing seems to be a for real clusterphukk. Between the HC, his daughter Baylee, then Stosh getting an earful from Jimmah with the pudpuller no where to be seen and the owners wife is on a big time rag over it all. Not to mention the national media in guffaw mode over it and the local media is in full on lynch mode.
And through it all, I shall remain a very hopeful fan..
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Somewhere Jimmy is sitting on a toilet scratching his head...
Somewhere Jimmy is sitting on a toilet while Dee slaps him in the head.
FIFY...lol
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I don't disagree....But that's how I would see it playing out. You don't give up 2 picks for a guy without playing him the rest of the way. And what if he goes say 4-4 the rest of the way with 60+ completion percentage and say..10 TD's and 5 int's. I don't think you draft another QB high in round 1 if that's the case.
Here's another thing I just realized Mark. The attempted McCarron move officially threw Kizer under the bus. Not like I've been preaching it from Day One that I didn't like Deshone at all. Some of the brain trust on the Browns was just a little bit slower coming to the realization.
It gets you to thinking Hue got outvoted by the "consensus" anal-itics guys a bunch of times, he got tired of Sashi and DePo's crap and went directly to the uber boss telling him- "I can't win with Kizer." What this means to me is either Hue or Sashi are gone, or Sashi at the very least is going to get demoted to contract only work.
Here's another thing I just realized Mark. The attempted McCarron move officially threw Kizer under the bus. Not like I've been preaching it from Day One that I didn't like Deshone at all. Some of the brain trust on the Browns was just a little bit slower coming to the realization.
Yes of course it did. But Huey has been screwing with Kizer's confidence all season with the way he pulls him in and out of the lineup week after week. The entire situations from the owner all the way down to the coach is one huge dumpster fire.
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Don't say you don't want to see it blown up as you make fun of everyone involved. What do you think makes Jimmy want to blow it up? Fan disgruntlement.
I wouldn't blame the fans when Jimmy went over the front office to try to please Hue and they disobeyed him. My theory is Hue convinced Jimmy the process isn't working and a lawyer and baseball guy can't make draft picks.
I wouldn't blame the fans when Jimmy went over the front office to try to please Hue and they disobeyed him. My theory is Hue convinced Jimmy the process isn't working and a lawyer and baseball guy can't make draft picks.
And Jimmy is easily convinced because none of the fans believe either.
If we were all of one backbone, he wouldn’t be trusting his HC over his GM on trades. Ridiculous
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I wouldn't blame the fans when Jimmy went over the front office to try to please Hue and they disobeyed him. My theory is Hue convinced Jimmy the process isn't working and a lawyer and baseball guy can't make draft picks.
And Jimmy is easily convinced because none of the fans believe either.
If we were all of one backbone, he wouldn’t be trusting his HC over his GM on trades. Ridiculous
And Jimmy is easily convinced because none of the fans believe either.
If we were all of one backbone, he wouldn’t be trusting his HC over his GM on trades. Ridiculous
You're gonna ride this all the way aren't you? And when changes are inevitably made....... BECAUSE THE TEAM CAN'T WIN A SINGLE PHUCKING GAME, then all we will hear from you is how it's all our faults that the poor beleaguered Brain Trust unjustly got run out of town by the big, bad, mean ol' fans and had absolutely nothing to do with their on field performance.
Too bad the NFL doesn't hand out participation trophies so our Brain Trust won't get their feelings hurt so much after they see the score board at the end of every game...... and God forbid that they look at the standings, as that would surely send them to their happy place along with their emotional support kitty cat.
Hey Jimmy, since you're reading all these posts.......................... F U C K O F F!
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Sooo, do you have a point?
There's that reading comp again..... my bad, next time I'll type s l o w e r........
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If McCarron is the answer, the question has been dumbed down so far that actual winning is no longer the goal.
This team was run into the ground by "football guys making football decisions" -- get over it.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Sooo, do you have a point?
There's that reading comp again..... my bad, next time I'll type s l o w e r........
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He could have been playing here and probably doing a better job than what we've had.
WSS
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He could have been playing here and probably doing a better job than what we've had.
WSS
He could have been playing here and probably doing a better job than what we've had.
WSS
I was not against keeping Brock here and seeing what he could do in a real game. As far as I am concerned, you can just add that up to another Quarterback fuyuck up by our FO.
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If McCarron is the answer, the question has been dumbed down so far that actual winning is no longer the goal.
This team was run into the ground by "football guys making football decisions" -- get over it.
If McCarron is the answer, the question has been dumbed down so far that actual winning is no longer the goal.
This team was run into the ground by "football guys making football decisions" -- get over it.
The fact that bad football guys made bad decisions doesn't make the current FO type or decisions right.
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