"With the First Pick of the 2018 Draft, the Browns Select..."
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nope. the new qb for the Browns will be Josh Allen. Hogan and Kizer can back him up.
We passed on Wentz, big colossal mistake - Allen is the Wentz type - just draft him - he's the
real deal.
nope. the new qb for the Browns will be Josh Allen. Hogan and Kizer can back him up.
We passed on Wentz, big colossal mistake - Allen is the Wentz type - just draft him - he's the
real deal.
I see nothing to show that he is any more the real deal than Rudolph is. Plays a lower level of competition.
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nope. the new qb for the Browns will be Josh Allen. Hogan and Kizer can back him up.
We passed on Wentz, big colossal mistake - Allen is the Wentz type - just draft him - he's the
real deal.
I see nothing to show that he is any more the real deal than Rudolph is. Plays a lower level of competition.
I see nothing to show that he is any more the real deal than Rudolph is. Plays a lower level of competition.
ah, look more closely at more about him, grasshopper !
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/19/mason-rudolph-nfl-draft-2018-scouting-report
“He’s O.K.,” said one AFC scouting director. “He’s playing in a great, quarterback-friendly offense. Probably has a top 10-caliber group of receivers. Gundy is a great coach and does an outstanding job with that offense. I’m not sold on him as a top guy . . . He’s a decent athlete. He’s tough and runs that offense well. But not sure the video game numbers he’s gonna put up this year will translate to the NFL.”
“He’s got good size,” was the positive an AFC personnel exec found before echoing the sentiment, “but his arm strength is lacking and he’s inconsistent with his accuracy.”
Added an area scout: “Not as good as the media wants everyone to believe; he’s a Day 3 guy. His accuracy isn’t as good as the numbers show—his receivers make a lot of tough catches for him. Arm strength is adequate, not tops. What’s the difference between him and Bryce Petty?”
But, in regards to the NFL draft, you should know what you’re watching. There have been 12 quarterbacks in major college football history to throw for 5,000 yards in a season, and just three of them—Derek Carr, Patrick Mahomes and David Klingler—went in the first five rounds out of the draft. The other nine? Two sixth-rounders, two seventh-rounders, a ninth-rounder (when that round still existed) and four undrafted free agents.
“At at a minimum, [Rudolph] has to have the arm talent,” the AFC scouting director said. “He might have the mental ability, but we don’t learn that until we get our hands on them after the season.”
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It isn't just me... in the same article, he lists the top ten in the draft:
1. Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. Sam Darnold, QB, USC
3. Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
4. Arden Key, EDGE, LSU
5. Derwin James, S, Florida State
6. Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
7. Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
8. Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
9. Harold Landry, EDGE, Boston College
10. Josh Allen, QB, WyomingDarnold should probably stay in school, and I wouldn't draft Rosen - personality/character flaws.
I don't see in Rudolph's career where he has faced adversity. gawdy numbers, sure. See that #10 there?
and, OMG, you let Minkah Fitzpatrick fall down to the Browns' second pick,
and I would have a seriously tough time between him and Ridley. Seriously.
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#10 is a big mistake. I think there is a job in the Browns FO just itching to put you in charge of player selection. Must continue the T-shirt tradition at all costs.
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invalid conclusion - no evidence that backs up your claims. I think half of this board could do a better job of picking
a qb and wr for the Browns. you disagree?
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I get to see little college stuff until the season is over so forgive me if wrong, but I thought Allen had been struggling?
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yes, he did striggle a few games. But he doesn't have a solid class of players around him. He raises the level of play up
hugely. Same thing for Carson Wentz - in 2016, the only N.Dakota players drafted were Wentz...and his OT who went in
the fifth round.
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Vegas odds for the No. 1 pick: 4/1 Saquon Barkley 6/1 Sam Darnold 6/1 Josh Rosen 8/1 Minkah Fitzpatrick 12/1 Mason Rudolph 25/1 Josh Allen
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Saquan Barkley, Penn State!
Nope. Browns HAVE to take best QB available. Now if they somehow land Cousins, Barkley is in play.
Nope. Browns HAVE to take best QB available. Now if they somehow land Cousins, Barkley is in play.
You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Nope. Browns HAVE to take best QB available. Now if they somehow land Cousins, Barkley is in play.
You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
I don't think you have a clue. The Browns keep drafting bad QBs. They do nothing to "ruin" them.....they ruin themselves. It is the bad QBs that ruin the Browns, not the other way around.
That would be like saying that BR really has no effect on the Steelers winning or losing.
Quarterbacks matter. None of these QBs that you claim the Browns ruined went on to any other situation and did one bit better. They simply proved that they were as mediocre or as bad as they were here.
Now, I am not saying that some of these QBs were not put into bad situations....they were. But they weren't ruined by those. They just proved that they were not good enough to handle them.
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Wyoming vs 6-2 Colorado State @ Laramie on CBSSN (221 Direct TV) @7pm eastern today.................about 45 min. from now if you want to see Josh Allen.
Naturally my wife has us playing bridge so I'm recording for tomorrow since there is no Browns game.
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Nope. Browns HAVE to take best QB available. Now if they somehow land Cousins, Barkley is in play.
You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
Draft Barkley? right- how many Super Bowls has Adrian Peterson been to? Landainan Tomlinson?
Get real. We passed on Wentz, took a bum in Kizer. He's a slightly better version of Akilli Smith. Reminds me a lot of the bad RG III also. Watch much of Deshone? His accuracy is terrible, something I duly noted before the draft. Yup, we get Gordon back in December, and Kizer will be throwing the ball 7 feet over his head too. It's not like we haven't tried drafting QBs- we've just drafted the wrong ones.
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The more tape I review of Baker Mayfield the more I like his game. This class as a whole is night and day vs 2016. Kiser would have been a day 3 prospect this year. Which is probably why he came out last year tbh.
If I had a gun on me I would go Mayfield at 1 and then best FS for the 1st round.
I'm cooling on Rosen at this point because of injurys and concussions. Jackson is bad passer and should not be considered in the first round. May be an excellent WR someday though
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You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
I don't think you have a clue. The Browns keep drafting bad QBs. They do nothing to "ruin" them.....they ruin themselves. It is the bad QBs that ruin the Browns, not the other way around.
That would be like saying that BR really has no effect on the Steelers winning or losing.
Quarterbacks matter. None of these QBs that you claim the Browns ruined went on to any other situation and did one bit better. They simply proved that they were as mediocre or as bad as they were here.
Now, I am not saying that some of these QBs were not put into bad situations....they were. But they weren't ruined by those. They just proved that they were not good enough to handle them.
I don't think you have a clue. The Browns keep drafting bad QBs. They do nothing to "ruin" them.....they ruin themselves. It is the bad QBs that ruin the Browns, not the other way around.
That would be like saying that BR really has no effect on the Steelers winning or losing.
Quarterbacks matter. None of these QBs that you claim the Browns ruined went on to any other situation and did one bit better. They simply proved that they were as mediocre or as bad as they were here.
Now, I am not saying that some of these QBs were not put into bad situations....they were. But they weren't ruined by those. They just proved that they were not good enough to handle them.
Ben had a great defense, solid offensive line, offensive weapons. You don’t just plunk down a rookie qb and expect fireworks and wins. Yes the browns have ruined quarterbacks, namely Tim couch. Kizer isn’t a bad qb either, he’s a rookie with nothing around him.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
You can’t just keep drafting and ruining qb’s, a qb needs a supporting cast and frankly drafting another one so high will in my opiniOn only set the team back. You draft Barkley and take pressure off whatever quarterback is under center and if that doesn’t work out then you draft a quarterback. I personally like kizer but he was put in with an uphill battle. I don’t think Crowell is bad but he’s not scaring anyone. Barkely is a multifaceted threat with good blitz pick up. You draft Barkley and don’t look back and watch kizer improve.
Draft Barkley? right- how many Super Bowls has Adrian Peterson been to? Landainan Tomlinson?
Get real. We passed on Wentz, took a bum in Kizer. He's a slightly better version of Akilli Smith. Reminds me a lot of the bad RG III also. Watch much of Deshone? His accuracy is terrible, something I duly noted before the draft. Yup, we get Gordon back in December, and Kizer will be throwing the ball 7 feet over his head too. It's not like we haven't tried drafting QBs- we've just drafted the wrong ones.
Draft Barkley? right- how many Super Bowls has Adrian Peterson been to? Landainan Tomlinson?
Get real. We passed on Wentz, took a bum in Kizer. He's a slightly better version of Akilli Smith. Reminds me a lot of the bad RG III also. Watch much of Deshone? His accuracy is terrible, something I duly noted before the draft. Yup, we get Gordon back in December, and Kizer will be throwing the ball 7 feet over his head too. It's not like we haven't tried drafting QBs- we've just drafted the wrong ones.
Rivers is a playoff choke artist otherwise the chargers had a great roster for a while. Peterson never had a qb because they never drafted a good one. They reached on ponder and Peterson tainted his career in the midst of bridgewater who also caught the injury bug.
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@boo-fagley said:
His offensive line is a sieve, but make no mistake, Allen can make all the throws look easy. What an arm.
Hes going to be special. The Browns must take him. This is it and taking Allen will change the Browns franchise forever for the good. Fvck Darnold.
Allen looked like crap. This is the 3rd game i have watched this year with him and he is totally unimpressive. If the Browns pick him he will be another for the t-shirt of shame.
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@boo-fagley said:
His offensive line is a sieve, but make no mistake, Allen can make all the throws look easy. What an arm.
Hes going to be special. The Browns must take him. This is it and taking Allen will change the Browns franchise forever for the good. Fvck Darnold.
Allen looked like crap. This is the 3rd game i have watched this year with him and he is totally unimpressive. If the Browns pick him he will be another for the t-shirt of shame.
Allen looked like crap. This is the 3rd game i have watched this year with him and he is totally unimpressive. If the Browns pick him he will be another for the t-shirt of shame.
Yeah I see a big arm and that is it.
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Allen looked like crap. This is the 3rd game i have watched this year with him and he is totally unimpressive. If the Browns pick him he will be another for the t-shirt of shame.
Yeah I see a big arm and that is it.
Yeah I see a big arm and that is it.
He has not even completed 60% of his college passes against mediocre teams, even last year with better players. Ridiculous pick for a pro team.
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