The Browns could land a damaged Andrew Luck for the right price.
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Get Luck and sit him for a year. He's the best QB in the AFC in 2 years. He's more talented than Kirk Cousins who's the next top paid QB.
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I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career.
I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career.
Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs...
Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years.
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I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career.
Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs...
Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years.
Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs...
Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years.
I got the scope and fileted. And it helped a whole lot. But it never came back like before the injury. I've seen a few baseball pitchers hang it up after a labrum tear and Luck has it to. He most likely will need to relearn a throwing motion very different from what he used to do. He has a tough road ahead of him career wise. He should take up ....drone racing!!!...lol
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Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble. Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.
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Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble. Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.
Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble. Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.
Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall?
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I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time.
I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy.
I did not know him.....at all.
I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy.
I did not know him.....at all.
I knew some guys that knew Danny Green as well. They liked him. They said Danny Green was The Bomb. (err, or was that Danny Green was going to be bombed?) Well....one or the other. Can't recall specifically right now.
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@boo-fagley said:
So what? Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. You want him too?
Elway is not known for being a genius. Look at the cast of bums he drafted to play QB.
You don't follow along very well.....the OP said that Andrew LUck was a Stanford numbskull. I pointed out that Stanford may be the premier academic institution in the country....
Besides, everyone know that Harvard takes a back seat to Cornell.
But this conversation had nothing to do with football acumem.
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@boo-fagley said:
Makes no sense to trade for a used Andy Luck when the Browns can draft a brand new QB and get him in his prime at probably less money.
I went to Carmax. I could buy a spanking new vehicle with 1 mile on it for the same price of their 30,000 mile shined up jalopies. No to QBmax.
Just a fact: Nearly half of the Super Bowl winning QBs were not drafted by the team they won the SB with.
Just pointing out that sometimes it does not hurt to bring in an experienced guy.
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For $5m a year Browns might be lucky to get Anderson. You know, the guy who actually won games...
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Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble. Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out.
Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall?
Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall?
Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall?
Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Or, maybe we just do what the Skins did: Draft a QB in round one....and another in round 4.
It can't hurt......and this FO has certainly blown enough 3rd/4th round picks.....getting another "egg" would be no big deal.
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Sounds like my Rosen/Benkert plan...
I would not be shocked if they actually did it. The WR net the cast in 2016 was essentially that approach. And this draft will be the draft to fill our near, QB void.
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Sounds like my Rosen/Benkert plan...
I would not be shocked if they actually did it. The WR net the cast in 2016 was essentially that approach. And this draft will be the draft to fill our near, QB void.
Sounds like my Rosen/Benkert plan...
I would not be shocked if they actually did it. The WR net the cast in 2016 was essentially that approach. And this draft will be the draft to fill our near, QB void.
Interesting I've been thinking along the same lines of 1st overall and a 2nd rounder. It's a deeper class than anyone we have now in that position.
EDITL: However if Allen is there to pick in the 2nd, please use it on a WR, FS or some other position of greater need.
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@boo-fagley said:
Awesome, you have a 49% chance at winning a Super Bowl.
A cursory list - Brady has 5, E Manning has 2, Ben has 2, Wilson has 1, Flacco has 1, Rodgers has 1, Elway has 2. Over the last 15 years the team that drafted its QB has won the Super Bowl.
And without one the odds are.... Zero!
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Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall?
Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
So if the Browns used their #1 overall on a QB, what would you give up to get Luck?
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Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
So if the Browns used their #1 overall on a QB, what would you give up to get Luck?
So if the Browns used their #1 overall on a QB, what would you give up to get Luck?
Kizer?
WSS the
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On the other hand not even that unless anybody here sees Andrew Luck as being a crafty old veteran who could mentor our high draft pick.
Rather than the guy that never lived up to the hype that he actually is.
WSS the
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@boo-fagley said:
Awesome, you have a 49% chance at winning a Super Bowl.
A cursory list - Brady has 5, E Manning has 2, Ben has 2, Wilson has 1, Flacco has 1, Rodgers has 1, Elway has 2. Over the last 15 years the team that drafted its QB has won the Super Bowl.
Eli Manning was drafted by the then San Diego Chargers. It was a hell of a moment to forget about it.
See the enthusiasm?
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@boo-fagley said:
Awesome, you have a 49% chance at winning a Super Bowl.
A cursory list - Brady has 5, E Manning has 2, Ben has 2, Wilson has 1, Flacco has 1, Rodgers has 1, Elway has 2. Over the last 15 years the team that drafted its QB has won the Super Bowl.
Eli Manning was drafted by the then San Diego Chargers. It was a hell of a moment to forget about it.
See the enthusiasm?
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Sounds like my Rosen/Benkert plan...
I would not be shocked if they actually did it. The WR net the cast in 2016 was essentially that approach. And this draft will be the draft to fill our near, QB void.
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