2017 QBs who are: 1. Holding back their teams. 2. Elevating their teams.

Mark O

Sigh....

PoeticG

You can sigh all you want but you know I'm right.

Wasn't it you that promised me Gordon would never play for the Browns again... there was so many naysayers I can't remember them all... kinda like the Carr thing... or Tyrann Mathieu, it's just an instincts thing, some have it, some don't...

LogicIsForSquares

PoG, your gimmick is garbage.

PoeticG

Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.

Mark O

@poeticg said:

You can sigh all you want but you know I'm right.

Wasn't it you that promised me Gordon would never play for the Browns again... there was so many naysayers I can't remember them all... kinda like the Carr thing... or Tyrann Mathieu, it's just an instincts thing, some have it, some don't...

I don't know youre right. I think Hogan is hot garbage. Slightly better than Kessler...who we all know sucks donkey balls. Gordon still hasn't played a game yet. Lets see if he actually takes the field and plays before we put him in the hall of fame ok?

LogicIsForSquares

@poeticg said:

Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.

Well could you please stop, tic-tac dong.

PoeticG

Tic-Tac dong?

Kindly tell me good sir who holds the top spot for average rushing yards per attempt? Who has the longest pass completion of the season? ~ Aaaaaand, who has the best QBR on the team? (mic drop)

LogicIsForSquares

You and Ghoolie should compare notes. His gimmick is tired too.

Mark O

@poeticg said:

Tic-Tac dong?

Kindly tell me good sir who holds the top spot for average rushing yards per attempt? Who has the longest pass completion of the season? ~ Aaaaaand, who has the best QBR on the team? (mic drop)

All of those stats mean nothing since they are garbage time stats. He's not good. None of the Qb's are any good. The fact that you're blowing Kevin Fucking Hogan after what we've seen kills your Derek Carr love. One is really good...the other blows donkeys. I'll let you figure out which is which.

TexasAg1969

@poeticg said:

Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.

So gimmick it is. Well done!

BaconHound

1. Blake Bortles

2. Carson Wentz

PoeticG

@mark-o said:

All of those stats mean nothing since they are garbage time stats.

You mean the middle of the game against the Ravens, on whom we couldn't gain anything before or after he came in the game?

Or the garbage time when the Bengals were trying with ALL THEIR MIGHT, even bringing Burfict back in the game, to try and pitch a shutout, that Kevin foiled?

Or maybe it was the whole getting a start with only 3 days notice that he would be the guy going into his first start, against a lava hot Texans team?

Which one is it? You're not going to be able to "one liner" your way out of this one.

PoeticG

Just admit it, Kevin Hogan is the best QB by a big margin- but you want that first pick even if it means slandering the kid.

gumby73

@poeticg said:

Just admit it, Hogan CRY-ED

Kerry did too.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

Just admit it, Kevin Hogan is the best QB by a big margin- but you want that first pick even if it means slandering the kid.

browns23

Just to put in perspective Hogan has 7 career interceptions in 101 attempts and Kizer has 14 in 313 attempts. Meaning Hogan would have 21 picks if he had as many horrific attempts as Kizer....

PoeticG

Player	Att	Comp	Yds	Comp %	Yds/Att	TD	TD %	INT	INT %	Long	Sck	Sack/Lost	Rating
DeShone Kizer	313	166	1823	53.0	5.8	5	1.6	14	4.5	44	24	152	57.2
Kevin Hogan	75	46	517	61.3	6.9	4	5.3	5	6.7	49	6	35	71.9

So let's see this- Kizer has roughly 4x the amount of attempts as Hogan...

Kevin Hogan 300 184 2068 61.3 6.9 16 5.3 20 6.7 ? 24 140 ?

So okay, we extrapolate out into the future and we see that Hogan is better pretty much everywhere. It shows that Kizer has ALREADY been sacked 24 times. It shows Kizer has lost more yards on sacks, that Kizer loses on yards gained and on completions. It shows that Kizer's 5 TDS are eye opening and his dismal.

FYI- 3 of Hogan's INTs came of no consequence. Two of them came just before halftime in which there was no time on the clock, simple throw it up and hope someone makes a play types. So here I'll give Hogan a little credit, he wouldn't have 20 INTs so far. I'd say 10 to 12 would be an okay number but his 16 TDs (possibly more) would offset that discrepancy. HOWEVER, Kizer's 5 TDs to 14 INTs is astounding!!! Great job Kitanic!!! Woo Hoo!!! You guys have hitched your wagon to the right guy, that's for sure. Please, keep telling me that Kizer should start! lol

PoeticG

Another bonus of starting Kevin Hogan- We wouldn't need to see Kessler get sacked at least once a game. Hogan wouldn't need replaced as often as a cheap set of brakes.

browns23

Nowhere was I saying Kizer was good. Just saying Hogan has just as much potential to turn the ball over (if not more), and you always are adamant about how Kizers turnovers are such an issue like in the quote below.

”How about his season turnovers? What about his inaccuracy or his lack of touch? Is it any surprise Coleman dropped that pass, probably never in a million years did he expect it to go where it was supposed to, hell- I bet Kizer was even surprised. A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. Sorry but 1 accurate pass out of 8 attempts does not scream QBOTF. Kizer blows and I can't wait until we're done with his entitled butt.“

They all blow POG. Love your enthusiasm but Hogan, nor Kessler nor Kizer are the QBOTF.

On a side note I’m sure there was a pick or two of Kizers that went bouncing off one of our dumbass receivers hands straight into the DB’s hands (not that it matters). So the argument that his picks didn’t matter is ludicrous.

Nero

I wake up in the morning.

Check the thread on my phone "oh, there have been a lot of replies!" I read Tour's, I scroll down all the Hogan posts. There's nothing more.

Thanks for ruining my expectations.