2017 QBs who are: 1. Holding back their teams. 2. Elevating their teams.
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Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.
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You can sigh all you want but you know I'm right.
Wasn't it you that promised me Gordon would never play for the Browns again... there was so many naysayers I can't remember them all... kinda like the Carr thing... or Tyrann Mathieu, it's just an instincts thing, some have it, some don't...
You can sigh all you want but you know I'm right.
Wasn't it you that promised me Gordon would never play for the Browns again... there was so many naysayers I can't remember them all... kinda like the Carr thing... or Tyrann Mathieu, it's just an instincts thing, some have it, some don't...
I don't know youre right. I think Hogan is hot garbage. Slightly better than Kessler...who we all know sucks donkey balls. Gordon still hasn't played a game yet. Lets see if he actually takes the field and plays before we put him in the hall of fame ok?
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Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.
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Tic-Tac dong?
Kindly tell me good sir who holds the top spot for average rushing yards per attempt? Who has the longest pass completion of the season? ~ Aaaaaand, who has the best QBR on the team? (mic drop)
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You and Ghoolie should compare notes. His gimmick is tired too.
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Tic-Tac dong?
Kindly tell me good sir who holds the top spot for average rushing yards per attempt? Who has the longest pass completion of the season? ~ Aaaaaand, who has the best QBR on the team? (mic drop)
Tic-Tac dong?
Kindly tell me good sir who holds the top spot for average rushing yards per attempt? Who has the longest pass completion of the season? ~ Aaaaaand, who has the best QBR on the team? (mic drop)
All of those stats mean nothing since they are garbage time stats. He's not good. None of the Qb's are any good. The fact that you're blowing Kevin Fucking Hogan after what we've seen kills your Derek Carr love. One is really good...the other blows donkeys. I'll let you figure out which is which.
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Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.
Real talk 100% authentic, no gimmick. Gimmicks are for the simple minded with little dicks.
So gimmick it is. Well done!
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1. Blake Bortles
2. Carson Wentz
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Tic-Tac dong?
Kindly tell me good sir who holds the top spot for average rushing yards per attempt? Who has the longest pass completion of the season? ~ Aaaaaand, who has the best QBR on the team? (mic drop)
All of those stats mean nothing since they are garbage time stats. He's not good. None of the Qb's are any good. The fact that you're blowing Kevin Fucking Hogan after what we've seen kills your Derek Carr love. One is really good...the other blows donkeys. I'll let you figure out which is which.
All of those stats mean nothing since they are garbage time stats.
You mean the middle of the game against the Ravens, on whom we couldn't gain anything before or after he came in the game?
Or the garbage time when the Bengals were trying with ALL THEIR MIGHT, even bringing Burfict back in the game, to try and pitch a shutout, that Kevin foiled?
Or maybe it was the whole getting a start with only 3 days notice that he would be the guy going into his first start, against a lava hot Texans team?
Which one is it? You're not going to be able to "one liner" your way out of this one.
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Just admit it, Kevin Hogan is the best QB by a big margin- but you want that first pick even if it means slandering the kid.
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Just admit it, Kevin Hogan is the best QB by a big margin- but you want that first pick even if it means slandering the kid.
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Just admit it, Kevin Hogan is the best QB by a big margin- but you want that first pick even if it means slandering the kid.
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Just to put in perspective Hogan has 7 career interceptions in 101 attempts and Kizer has 14 in 313 attempts. Meaning Hogan would have 21 picks if he had as many horrific attempts as Kizer....
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Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating DeShone Kizer 313 166 1823 53.0 5.8 5 1.6 14 4.5 44 24 152 57.2 Kevin Hogan 75 46 517 61.3 6.9 4 5.3 5 6.7 49 6 35 71.9 So let's see this- Kizer has roughly 4x the amount of attempts as Hogan...
Kevin Hogan 300 184 2068 61.3 6.9 16 5.3 20 6.7 ? 24 140 ?
So okay, we extrapolate out into the future and we see that Hogan is better pretty much everywhere. It shows that Kizer has ALREADY been sacked 24 times. It shows Kizer has lost more yards on sacks, that Kizer loses on yards gained and on completions. It shows that Kizer's 5 TDS are eye opening and his dismal.
FYI- 3 of Hogan's INTs came of no consequence. Two of them came just before halftime in which there was no time on the clock, simple throw it up and hope someone makes a play types. So here I'll give Hogan a little credit, he wouldn't have 20 INTs so far. I'd say 10 to 12 would be an okay number but his 16 TDs (possibly more) would offset that discrepancy. HOWEVER, Kizer's 5 TDs to 14 INTs is astounding!!! Great job Kitanic!!! Woo Hoo!!! You guys have hitched your wagon to the right guy, that's for sure. Please, keep telling me that Kizer should start! lol
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Nowhere was I saying Kizer was good. Just saying Hogan has just as much potential to turn the ball over (if not more), and you always are adamant about how Kizers turnovers are such an issue like in the quote below.
”How about his season turnovers? What about his inaccuracy or his lack of touch? Is it any surprise Coleman dropped that pass, probably never in a million years did he expect it to go where it was supposed to, hell- I bet Kizer was even surprised. A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. Sorry but 1 accurate pass out of 8 attempts does not scream QBOTF. Kizer blows and I can't wait until we're done with his entitled butt.“
They all blow POG. Love your enthusiasm but Hogan, nor Kessler nor Kizer are the QBOTF.
On a side note I’m sure there was a pick or two of Kizers that went bouncing off one of our dumbass receivers hands straight into the DB’s hands (not that it matters). So the argument that his picks didn’t matter is ludicrous.
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lol... really...
Kizer, or any other CLE QB, ain't holding back Sheet... at least not very far. Not with the WR corps and run game we've had to date.
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lol... really...
Kizer, or any other CLE QB, ain't holding back Sheet... at least not very far. Not with the WR corps and run game we've had to date.
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The Biggest holdback is Kizer, because he's taking plays away from THE GUY who is ready for this.
I count Kizer the biggest holdback because as the guy that leads this team at QB we're 0-11.
There is no way Hogan could be worse. No way Hogan could be worse than Kessler has been.
No way~ I know the Texans game will be brought up, but check this, had Hogan had preseason starts and reps with the first team he would have been even better ready for the Texans.
Hogan has this team competitive... and there is no argument for Kizer if it's not that him starting is intentionally losing for a high draft pick. He's the scapegoat. Well, even then it doesn't hold up because what if HOGAN is THE GUY. Then in the draft we can build the offense around his skillset and strengths and we'd have a chance at something special next year. Instead, I hope not, but maybe they take the wrong rookie QB next year and it's another rookie starting all season that can't get it... I know Hogan can execute at this level. He just needs an opportunity.
Hogan to Gordon for the game winner in SD. Bank on it.
Crazy Kev also elevates the guys around him when he's in the game. Ask Njoku or DeValve. or any of the practice squad players he's gotten elevated to the active roster.
The Biggest holdback is Kizer, because he's taking plays away from THE GUY who is ready for this.
I count Kizer the biggest holdback because as the guy that leads this team at QB we're 0-11.
There is no way Hogan could be worse. No way Hogan could be worse than Kessler has been.
No way~ I know the Texans game will be brought up, but check this, had Hogan had preseason starts and reps with the first team he would have been even better ready for the Texans.
Hogan has this team competitive... and there is no argument for Kizer if it's not that him starting is intentionally losing for a high draft pick. He's the scapegoat. Well, even then it doesn't hold up because what if HOGAN is THE GUY. Then in the draft we can build the offense around his skillset and strengths and we'd have a chance at something special next year. Instead, I hope not, but maybe they take the wrong rookie QB next year and it's another rookie starting all season that can't get it... I know Hogan can execute at this level. He just needs an opportunity.
Hogan to Gordon for the game winner in SD. Bank on it.
Crazy Kev also elevates the guys around him when he's in the game. Ask Njoku or DeValve. or any of the practice squad players he's gotten elevated to the active roster.
Fuhuck you and your Hogan horseshite. Do you have to ruin just about every thread with you fuyucking stupid, ignorant obsession. Fuyucking faggot.
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