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  • C Clevfan4life

    @baconhound said:

    Defense was bad today

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

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    @clevfan4life said:

    they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

    They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

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      @clevfan4life said:

      they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

      They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      @baconhound said:

      They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

      Not at all.

      I have zero faith that if the Browns could somehow stumble upon a lead late in a game that the defense could or would stop the other team from marching down the field and taking back the lead.

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        @mark-o said:

        Getting thrown in day 1 worked out pretty well for the Eagles 

        Was that the cleveland eagles?

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        GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by Ghoolie
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        @clevfan4life said:

        Was that the cleveland eagles?

        Did you know that during the second world war when men and materials were in short supply, the Browns and the Eagles combined into one football team? It's true. They were called the Cleagles.

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          R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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          I’m more concerned with Kizer missing a wide open gordon for a sure touchdown, and yet another strip sack.  The defense has been playing like Sheet lately, but the Chargers have averaged 33 points per game over the last 3 and 22 points per game over the season.  The Browns held them to 19, which is good enough to win when your rookie QB Doesnt shoot the team in the foot. 

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            ^^^^^ that

            what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

            But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

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              ^^^^^ that

              what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

              But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

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              stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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              @clevfan4life said:

              ^^^^^ that

              what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

              But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

              True that, look at how good mccourty did on covering Allen. He had some major stops, and Allen is crazy good. Kizer missed throws all game and held onto the ball too long. 

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                @clevfan4life said:

                ^^^^^ that

                what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

                But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

                True that, look at how good mccourty did on covering Allen. He had some major stops, and Allen is crazy good. Kizer missed throws all game and held onto the ball too long. 

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                This just in... The Browns D is neither perfect nor even the best in the league!

                @stillmotion said:

                Kizer missed throws all game and or held onto the ball too long. 

                FIFY... can't do both. 😉

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                • GhoolieG Ghoolie

                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Was that the cleveland eagles?

                  Did you know that during the second world war when men and materials were in short supply, the Browns and the Eagles combined into one football team? It's true. They were called the Cleagles.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @ghoolie said:

                  Did you know that during the second world war when men and materials were in short supply, the Browns and the Eagles combined into one football team? It's true. They were called the Cleagles.

                  That was quite a feat....considering the Browns were not even founded until after WWII.

                  Or, maybe they were some kind of secret weapon....not revealed until after the war.   Maybe they were part of Project Blue Book.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    Kizer missed throws all game and or held onto the ball too long. 

                    FIFY... can't do both.

                    He can and he did....just not on the same play

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                      Kizer missed throws all game and or held onto the ball too long. 

                      FIFY... can't do both.

                      He can and he did....just not on the same play

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                      stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Kizer missed throws all game and or held onto the ball too long. 

                      FIFY... can't do both.

                      He can and he did....just not on the same play

                      I didn’t say that bro, Tour did, I said the original statement. 

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                        @roach said:

                        No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

                        they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

                        @clevfan4life said:

                        they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

                        No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

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                          Nice start today D

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            Sucks major butt in crunch time.

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                              Coverage schemes were ridiculous, and on top of that no scheme covers for the fact that McCourty played worse than a UDFA allowing Hundley to have a perfect rating when throwing to whoever he was covering.

                              Browns had the lowest pressure rating of any team in the NFL yesterday.. scheme also can't cover for that. Williams did his best by blitzing to create - but again he simply doesn't have the players. 

                              The weakness is talent at all levels of the D, not some magic elixir..

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