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  • Rosen is a better NFL prospect then Mayfield. IMO

    Mayfield is a great college QB  but his skills in college are not going to transfer to the NFL as well as Rosen’s skills will 

    @browns149 said:

    Rosen is a better NFL prospect then Mayfield. IMO

    Mayfield is a great college QB  but his skills in college are not going to transfer to the NFL as well as Rosen’s skills will 

    True, and not true. Mayfield has outstanding intangibles - leadership, love for the game...but he's made some mistakes off the field. He's apologized.

    Rosen has outstanding physical passing stats and abilities, but lacks what Mayfield has. Teammates LOVE Josh Allen, and Mayfield, and others. Rosen, "der". not so much at all. The mistakes he has made off the field- he doesn't apologize for - he's not going to. Rules, People.... don't matter to him - he's rich and privileged. I just don't buy his act.

  • "League sources"

    Translation - "Horseshi t"           

    Wouldn't pay it any mind.

  • Intangibles are great but they don’t complete passes from the pocket. Running around playing street ball works in college. And that’s why guys love playing with him

    But in the pros the Qb needs to win from the pocket FIRST. And I think Rosen is much better at that 

  • Can’t always get what you want cupcake.

  • screw you faggot you're coming to Cleveland.  Make the Browns Great Again!

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    You seem to be personally offended that not everyone thinks Mayfield is a better prospect than Rosen.

    I'm just dumbfounded that very few people on the board think character is a concern with Rosen, yet hate Mayfield mainly because of character.

    @stillmotion said:

    I'm just dumbfounded that very few people on the board think character is a concern with Rosen, yet hate Mayfield mainly because of character.

    Actually many people have commented that they don't care for Mayfield because of his character AND that he's short, plays in a crap league known for producing inflated QB stats and has a decent but unspectacular skill set.

    You keep ignoring that second part so you can keep trotting out your "WHY IS ROSEN GETTING A PASS ON HIS CHARACTER"? so somehow your boy Baker is some kind of martyr on this board.

  • Yet, a Jeff George and Ryan Leaf had outstanding stats and great passing. But their lack of character was their ruination, and embarrassment to their teams. Nobody knows if rosen is that bad...but the question is there - the red flag glows. The Browns can NOT afford to take the chance. Brady Quinn was a real good pocket passer in college.., and he wasn't a big arrogantprick, and didn't make it for other reasons. Matt Leinart was a pure pocket passer.....

    Everybody knows Mayfield has a few character concerns...do they represent a permanent lack of character, or just a little wild college immaturity? Rosen has character concerns, and it seems it goes permanent right down to the core and he doesn't care what anybody thinks.

  • It will be interesting to compare the boards response to this vs their response to Bridgewater

  • @stillmotion said:

    I'm just dumbfounded that very few people on the board think character is a concern with Rosen, yet hate Mayfield mainly because of character.

    Actually many people have commented that they don't care for Mayfield because of his character AND that he's short, plays in a crap league known for producing inflated QB stats and has a decent but unspectacular skill set.

    You keep ignoring that second part so you can keep trotting out your "WHY IS ROSEN GETTING A PASS ON HIS CHARACTER"? so somehow your boy Baker is some kind of martyr on this board.

    @dutch-oven said:

    You keep ignoring that second part so you can keep trotting out your "WHY IS ROSEN GETTING A PASS ON HIS CHARACTER"? so somehow your boy Baker is some kind of martyr on this board.

    actually, he doesn't suck near as much as you think he does. Because he's Brees height, you hate him too, but you ignore everything he's done and that he's going to win the national championship while rosen sits in his hot tub, tweeting about how he won't enter the draft if the Browns take him.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    You keep ignoring that second part so you can keep trotting out your "WHY IS ROSEN GETTING A PASS ON HIS CHARACTER"? so somehow your boy Baker is some kind of martyr on this board.

    actually, he doesn't suck near as much as you think he does. Because he's Brees height, you hate him too, but you ignore everything he's done and that he's going to win the national championship while rosen sits in his hot tub, tweeting about how he won't enter the draft if the Browns take him.

    @stillmotion said:

    actually, he doesn't suck near as much as you think he does. Because he's Brees height, you hate him too, but you ignore everything he's done and that he's going to win the national championship while rosen sits in his hot tub, tweeting about how he won't enter the draft if the Browns take him.

    Saying he's an inferior prospect than Rosen is "he doesn't suck near as much as you think he does" in your mind? Is that how debate works with you? Completely twist what other people say to fit your agenda? Fascinating.

    I'm sorry I do not like the guy you are infatuated with as much as you do. It happens sometimes still.

  • I think Rosen will be a better pro then Mayfield. 

    It has nothing to do with character for me. It has to do with his size and skills

    They both have off the field stuff. And the skills are better with Rosen. So  that’s why  I like Rosen better

    Plus Mayfield plays against defenses that inflate Qb stats. 

  • @stillmotion said:

    actually, he doesn't suck near as much as you think he does. Because he's Brees height, you hate him too, but you ignore everything he's done and that he's going to win the national championship while rosen sits in his hot tub, tweeting about how he won't enter the draft if the Browns take him.

    Saying he's an inferior prospect than Rosen is "he doesn't suck near as much as you think he does" in your mind? Is that how debate works with you? Completely twist what other people say to fit your agenda? Fascinating.

    I'm sorry I do not like the guy you are infatuated with as much as you do. It happens sometimes still.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sorry I do not like the guy you are infatuated with as much as you do. It happens sometimes still.

    Rosen's the better QB prospect and I think we've all said or stated that. However, I'd argue that Mayfield is a good prospect based on the skills he has.

  • Josh Rosen literally said nothing. Jesus Christ people, try for more than 10 second to critically read something.

  • Josh Rosen literally said nothing. Jesus Christ people, try for more than 10 second to critically read something.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Josh Rosen literally said nothing. Jesus Christ people, try for more than 10 second to critically read something.

    He did say he wanted to play for the giants. He also said he didn't want to play for the Browns.

    He said it privately, but he did say it. Schefter is not the type of dude to make Sheet up.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/21863509/josh-rosen-prefers-new-york-giants-cleveland-browns-hesitate-enter-draft-cleveland-commits-him

  • If Hue is still here, I wouldn’t blame ANY Qb from wanting to NOT play here

    Hue is the WORST HEAD COACH OF ALL-TIME

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Josh Rosen literally said nothing. Jesus Christ people, try for more than 10 second to critically read something.

    He did say he wanted to play for the giants. He also said he didn't want to play for the Browns.

    He said it privately, but he did say it. Schefter is not the type of dude to make Sheet up.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/21863509/josh-rosen-prefers-new-york-giants-cleveland-browns-hesitate-enter-draft-cleveland-commits-him

    @stillmotion said:

    He did say he wanted to play for the giants. He also said he didn't want to play for the Browns.

    He said it privately, but he did say it. Schefter is not the type of dude to make Sheet up.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/21863509/josh-rosen-prefers-new-york-giants-cleveland-browns-hesitate-enter-draft-cleveland-commits-him

    Honestly dude just Shmucking stop, you're being an extreme detriment to the board. Be objective and realize this garbage comes out and is rarely true. Remember when Darnold wasn't going to come out, reported by schefter for the same reason? You also remember how Darnold said that wasn't true? There's no downside to reporting a rumor, which is all this is.

    We get it, you don't like the guy. But report and comment on objective reporting, do better.

  • @stillmotion said:

    He did say he wanted to play for the giants. He also said he didn't want to play for the Browns.

    He said it privately, but he did say it. Schefter is not the type of dude to make Sheet up.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/21863509/josh-rosen-prefers-new-york-giants-cleveland-browns-hesitate-enter-draft-cleveland-commits-him

    Honestly dude just Shmucking stop, you're being an extreme detriment to the board. Be objective and realize this garbage comes out and is rarely true. Remember when Darnold wasn't going to come out, reported by schefter for the same reason? You also remember how Darnold said that wasn't true? There's no downside to reporting a rumor, which is all this is.

    We get it, you don't like the guy. But report and comment on objective reporting, do better.

    @jrb12711 said:

    We get it, you don't like the guy. But report and comment on objective reporting, do better.

    lol i was just stating facts dude. Schefter is a legitimate source. 

    I can't fathom why you can't accept that :

    A.) Rosen is quite possibly an a$$hole 

    B.) Rosen said he didn't want to play for the Browns

    We all know he's the best QB prospect, but like I said, he'll probably pull an Elway.

  • Why would any kid want to play for the browns? But hey fgts, if the giants want to give us eli plus their next two drafts.....we get our vet qb plus one of the other top qb's in this draft

  • What a F U C K stick.

    @topdawg31 said:

    What a F U C K stick.

    What he(or darnold) wants is not particularly relevant.  There is a CBA and draft and it is what it is.  We are going to take one of them #1 and they'll just have to deal.