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  • The football scouting expert has spoken. So it shall be

    @mld-woody said:

    The football scouting expert has spoken. So it shall be

    How's your boy Peppers doing, might I ask?

  • @mld-woody said:

    The football scouting expert has spoken. So it shall be

    How's your boy Peppers doing, might I ask?

    @tiamat63 said:

    How's your boy Peppers doing, might I ask?

    I think he's lining up offsides as we speak.

  • @mld-woody said:

    The football scouting expert has spoken. So it shall be

    How's your boy Peppers doing, might I ask?

    @tiamat63 said:

    How's your boy Peppers doing, might I ask?

    Doing what he can considering he's played 35 yards off the LOS and learning a new position. Hopefully he can get closer to the LOS next year.

    I mean, unless you're scouting says differently. I'd hate to disagree. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    How's your boy Peppers doing, might I ask?

    Doing what he can considering he's played 35 yards off the LOS and learning a new position. Hopefully he can get closer to the LOS next year.

    I mean, unless you're scouting says differently. I'd hate to disagree. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Doing what he can considering he's played 35 yards off the LOS and learning a new position. Hopefully he can get closer to the LOS next year.

    I mean, unless you're scouting says differently. I'd hate to disagree. 

    Up until this point, understand, I had ZERO issue with you.      But your incessant belief that I 'HATE' UM players and thus my opinion on them has no validity - by your own admission of my "OSU BIAS!!!!" has brought this disdain for my posts on every player I offer up my thoughts on after watching.

    You could line Peppers up near the nacho bitch in the stands, guess Shmucking what? - He's STILL going to take a shitty angle.  Like I said he would.   He still looks to tackle with his head down.  Actually that seems to be a symptom of most of our DB's so I can't fault him on his own for that.          I remember pointing out that he had an above NCAA average for missed tackle percentage while at UM (playing a more weakside backer role) and your rebuttal was "when you're in position to make more tackles, you miss more"...  paying no mind to the percentage part.

    I bet you'll get a menstrual when I don't offer up Mo Hurst has a sure-fire top 10 pick.     (Though I am starting to like Rashuan Gary)    I know, I know... "OSU BIAS!!!!!"         

    Keep singing that same song on recycle about "scouting" meanwhile  my posts have more football substance, detail and support because I put in time to not only watch, but to understand what I'm seeing. 

  • 1) you aren't the main OSU bias culprit

    2) that's not the rebuttal I gave

    3) you can say what you want about Mo, and I may or may not disagree

    4) Gary is a beast

    5) You can not like what I post for whatever you see fit. I don't like the posts where you act like the end all be all on scouting for players. 

    6) Damn, you really blew up there

  • @mld-woody said:

    Doing what he can considering he's played 35 yards off the LOS and learning a new position. Hopefully he can get closer to the LOS next year.

    I mean, unless you're scouting says differently. I'd hate to disagree. 

    Up until this point, understand, I had ZERO issue with you.      But your incessant belief that I 'HATE' UM players and thus my opinion on them has no validity - by your own admission of my "OSU BIAS!!!!" has brought this disdain for my posts on every player I offer up my thoughts on after watching.

    You could line Peppers up near the nacho bitch in the stands, guess Shmucking what? - He's STILL going to take a shitty angle.  Like I said he would.   He still looks to tackle with his head down.  Actually that seems to be a symptom of most of our DB's so I can't fault him on his own for that.          I remember pointing out that he had an above NCAA average for missed tackle percentage while at UM (playing a more weakside backer role) and your rebuttal was "when you're in position to make more tackles, you miss more"...  paying no mind to the percentage part.

    I bet you'll get a menstrual when I don't offer up Mo Hurst has a sure-fire top 10 pick.     (Though I am starting to like Rashuan Gary)    I know, I know... "OSU BIAS!!!!!"         

    Keep singing that same song on recycle about "scouting" meanwhile  my posts have more football substance, detail and support because I put in time to not only watch, but to understand what I'm seeing. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Keep singing that same song on recycle about "scouting" meanwhile  my posts have more football substance because I put in time to not only watch, but to understand what I'm seeing. 

    I'm sure I'll run into opinions tia has that I disagree with, but in a sea of "HUE SUCKS KIZER SUCKS" posts, actually reading posts that are nuanced and thought-out, with reasons for why he feels the way he does , is refreshing. 

  • And Jackson throws his third interception today. Man, this hasn't been a great bowl season for QBs coming out in general.

    How big is Lamar? He looks like he's 6'0 and 190lbs soaking wet.

  • That was... Strange.

    Looked like a bad throw. But Jackson reacted like the WR did something wrong.

  • had a chance to win the game in the closing minutes and OUCH throws a Horrible pick

  • Holy Sheet, where'd Louisville's OL go?

    Jackson has an arm though. Just a little flick gets it downfield

  • We need Mississippi States head coach though 

  • Jackson is on the hook for 2 of those picks, but the last one was on the WR. I really don't know if the draft has the answer to out QB problem at this point.

  • Jackson is on the hook for 2 of those picks, but the last one was on the WR. I really don't know if the draft has the answer to out QB problem at this point.

    @louisville-slugger said:

    , but the last one was on the WR. 

    good call,after rewind live speed.#5 WR Dawkins runs lazy route,almost like Dawkins was trying to cut on iced turf. if full speed receiver should be cross db's face where Lamar placed it     

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    , but the last one was on the WR. 

    good call,after rewind live speed.#5 WR Dawkins runs lazy route,almost like Dawkins was trying to cut on iced turf. if full speed receiver should be cross db's face where Lamar placed it     

    @gumby73 said:

    good call,after rewind live speed.#5 WR Dawkins runs lazy route,almost like Dawkins was trying to cut on iced turf. if full speed receiver should be cross db's face where Lamar placed it     

    You could see it based on how Jackson reacted 

  • 1) you aren't the main OSU bias culprit

    2) that's not the rebuttal I gave

    3) you can say what you want about Mo, and I may or may not disagree

    4) Gary is a beast

    5) You can not like what I post for whatever you see fit. I don't like the posts where you act like the end all be all on scouting for players. 

    6) Damn, you really blew up there

    @mld-woody said:

    1) you aren't the main OSU bias culprit

    I have still yet to see where you can accuse me of said bias. Hell, you can't even say it was about my calling Michael Thomas the best WR in the draft.  That clearly ended up being very true.    My bias is towards quality football players.  The one time I've seen you go over the moon for somebody, it just so happened to be Jabrill.  You said he was an "elite athlete" that would be a playmaker for the Browns.  I argued otherwise and backed up what I said with examples.   You then ran home to the "OSU bias".        

    I said he would be at best a gadget offensive player and above average return man.     He hasn't even been the latter.  He's damn near dead last in return average.  

    2) that's not the rebuttal I gave                 

    - Pretty sure I have it screen shotted.   Here it is, verbatim

    " It is worth noting that Peppers gets into a position to make a tackle on plays most players would not, therefore even if he misses those tackles, it still disrupts the offense/ball carrier."

    So... yep.  Pretty much "if he's forced to tackle then he'll miss more" in paraphrasing.  

    3) you can say what you want about Mo, and I may or may not disagree

    We'll find out soon then.

    4) Gary is a beast

    So far, no disagreement here.  

    5) You can not like what I post for whatever you see fit. I don't like the posts where you act like the end all be all on scouting for players. 

    I only do that when people posts such whacky Sheet on clearly flawed players without any type of substance to support their argument that doesn't include what you seen me calling cowpoop on in the Mayfield thread.   I.E.  "WINNER, LEADER, STATS, HEISMAN"!!!

    6) Damn, you really blew up there

    I haven't even begun to peak.  

  • You paraphrased what I said incorrectly. 

    I understand how math and statistics work. I get percentages.

    I'm saying I saw Peppers knife through two players on WR screens, bubbles, etc to get to the ball carrier and disrupt the play. A lot of times he was diving or still had a blocker on him, meaning it was a difficult tackle to make. Most other DBs are just getting blocked there and not getting to the ball carrier. So does it count as a missed tackle? I guess. But it's still a net positive for the defense. That's what I said.

    Not to mention Williams has been complimentary of Peppers tackling ability.

  • You paraphrased what I said incorrectly. 

    I understand how math and statistics work. I get percentages.

    I'm saying I saw Peppers knife through two players on WR screens, bubbles, etc to get to the ball carrier and disrupt the play. A lot of times he was diving or still had a blocker on him, meaning it was a difficult tackle to make. Most other DBs are just getting blocked there and not getting to the ball carrier. So does it count as a missed tackle? I guess. But it's still a net positive for the defense. That's what I said.

    Not to mention Williams has been complimentary of Peppers tackling ability.

    @mld-woody said:

    You paraphrased what I said incorrectly. 

    I understand how math and statistics work. I get percentages.

    I'm saying I saw Peppers knife through two players on WR screens, bubbles, etc to get to the ball carrier and disrupt the play. A lot of times he was diving or still had a blocker on him, meaning it was a difficult tackle to make. Most other DBs are just getting blocked there and not getting to the ball carrier. So does it count as a missed tackle? I guess. But it's still a net positive for the defense. That's what I said.

    Not to mention Williams has been complimentary of Peppers tackling ability.

    He has too seeing as he's the one that beat his fists on the table in support of drafting him.    Straight coaches pick.  

  • @mld-woody said:

    You paraphrased what I said incorrectly. 

    I understand how math and statistics work. I get percentages.

    I'm saying I saw Peppers knife through two players on WR screens, bubbles, etc to get to the ball carrier and disrupt the play. A lot of times he was diving or still had a blocker on him, meaning it was a difficult tackle to make. Most other DBs are just getting blocked there and not getting to the ball carrier. So does it count as a missed tackle? I guess. But it's still a net positive for the defense. That's what I said.

    Not to mention Williams has been complimentary of Peppers tackling ability.

    He has too seeing as he's the one that beat his fists on the table in support of drafting him.    Straight coaches pick.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    He has too seeing as he's the one that beat his fists on the table in support of drafting him.    Straight coaches pick.  

    Then our talk at the auto show mattered more than I jokingly thought... Lol

    But do you at least get the point I was trying to make regarding the tackles? Peppers is one of the only prospects you could hear people praise his tackling and then have someone else say it's terrible. You'd think it would be pretty straightforward

  • @tiamat63 said:

    He has too seeing as he's the one that beat his fists on the table in support of drafting him.    Straight coaches pick.  

    Then our talk at the auto show mattered more than I jokingly thought... Lol

    But do you at least get the point I was trying to make regarding the tackles? Peppers is one of the only prospects you could hear people praise his tackling and then have someone else say it's terrible. You'd think it would be pretty straightforward

    @mld-woody said:

    Then our talk at the auto show mattered more than I jokingly thought... Lol

    But do you at least get the point I was trying to make regarding the tackles? Peppers is one of the only prospects you could hear people praise his tackling and then have someone else say it's terrible. You'd think it would be pretty straightforward

    There's a difference.           His willingness to get his nose dirty blowing up screens and attacking the LOS is one thing.  His ability to secure tackles and to take proper angles has been and will continue to be another story.     

    I know what you mean, but I still think you believed a bit of what you said in regards to how I interpreted it.  

  • Two FGs the second half-not good. But if Jackson stays and gets to pick, guess who he falls in love with? RG IV.