All bullsht aside now, does football belong in clev?
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Anyone who thinks the Browns couldn't move is wrong. Of course they could. Way bigger markets with warmer climates are out there.
Anyone who thinks the Browns couldn't move is wrong. Of course they could. Way bigger markets with warmer climates are out there.
Your a Shmucking idiot if you think soYour a Shmucking idiot if you think so
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Anyone who thinks the Browns couldn't move is wrong. Of course they could. Way bigger markets with warmer climates are out there.
I don't think there are that many bigger markets out there. And how many will be willing to pony up the 1 billion dollars to build a new stadium? Not as many as you think.
I don't think there are that many bigger markets out there. And how many will be willing to pony up the 1 billion dollars to build a new stadium? Not as many as you think.
There are no bigger markets – none none in America they do not have an NFL team. Unless you want to send them to Toronto or London or some cowpoop place like that noThere are no bigger markets – none none in America they do not have an NFL team. Unless you want to send them to Toronto or London or some cowpoop place like that no
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@boo-fagley said:
It would be a travesty not to have NFL in Cleveland.
A TRAVESTY? For whom? Fans in what city? What state? Who, other than the 50% of fans in NE Ohio who are not Steeler fans would this be a travesty to?
Seriously? Who in the USA would give a flying phuck if the Browns were moved and renamed? you guys live in a fantasy world. It's like President trump put a wall around this board and most of you idiots can't see out. If you cannot see that Lerner and Haslam have greatly devalued the Browns brand to the point that 31 other owners, advertisers and financiers are not concerned, then you really are simpletons.
Go ahead, complain, protest, get mad that someone "dares" to suggest that this team is now in play. But it IS in play. The NFL is all about the NFL, it is all about money, and the powers that be are not going to let an ever-dwindling group of self-important fans put a stranglehold on the organization's profits.
You guys once again believe we are FINALLY poised to move forward, but we are not. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He has already been bent over by Haslam to accept Hue Jackson. What NFL team would keep this turd? Yet, it is HASLAM who chooses the Head Coach, NOT the supposed football genius. No GM with any level of determination to win would take a job in Cleveland given the owner decides who the coach is.
You think IF next year we fire Hue, all of a sudden Haslam is going to change his style, back off and say, Okay Dorkey...YOU pick the HC? Not a fauking chance. Haslam is a nincompoop and the other owners give him dumb advice, which he and Lerner both followed.
You think Haslam is going to force Hue...but not force his will on the 2018 draft? YOu are fukcking simpletons. The Browns will not win 3 games in 2018. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher who came to Cleveland just like Policy, Holmgren, Sewage and Sashi did, to get a free ride on the most gullible franchise in the history of the NFL.
A TRAVESTY? For whom? Fans in what city? What state? Who, other than the 50% of fans in NE Ohio who are not Steeler fans would this be a travesty to?
Seriously? Who in the USA would give a flying phuck if the Browns were moved and renamed? you guys live in a fantasy world. It's like President trump put a wall around this board and most of you idiots can't see out. If you cannot see that Lerner and Haslam have greatly devalued the Browns brand to the point that 31 other owners, advertisers and financiers are not concerned, then you really are simpletons.
Go ahead, complain, protest, get mad that someone "dares" to suggest that this team is now in play. But it IS in play. The NFL is all about the NFL, it is all about money, and the powers that be are not going to let an ever-dwindling group of self-important fans put a stranglehold on the organization's profits.
You guys once again believe we are FINALLY poised to move forward, but we are not. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He has already been bent over by Haslam to accept Hue Jackson. What NFL team would keep this turd? Yet, it is HASLAM who chooses the Head Coach, NOT the supposed football genius. No GM with any level of determination to win would take a job in Cleveland given the owner decides who the coach is.
You think IF next year we fire Hue, all of a sudden Haslam is going to change his style, back off and say, Okay Dorkey...YOU pick the HC? Not a fauking chance. Haslam is a nincompoop and the other owners give him dumb advice, which he and Lerner both followed.
You think Haslam is going to force Hue...but not force his will on the 2018 draft? YOu are fukcking simpletons. The Browns will not win 3 games in 2018. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher who came to Cleveland just like Policy, Holmgren, Sewage and Sashi did, to get a free ride on the most gullible franchise in the history of the NFL.
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Anyone who thinks the Browns couldn't move is wrong. Of course they could. Way bigger markets with warmer climates are out there.
Your a Shmucking idiot if you think soYour a Shmucking idiot if you think so
Your a Shmucking idiot if you think soYour a Shmucking idiot if you think so
You okay dude?
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I don't see the NFL ever allowing the franchise to move again, but if I had season tickets those things would be cancelled. I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure not 1 cent of my money goes their way while Hue is still coaching.
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I'd go if it was in S.A. because they have a new 80 and 85 mph legal straight shot on 130 Toll Road from Georgetown to I-10 just east of SA. Just start them in the Alamodome and go from there when ready. And BTW no sane person drives to Jerryworld from anywhere S of Austin to see the boys. More likely to Steal fans from the Texans.
I'd go if it was in S.A. because they have a new 80 and 85 mph legal straight shot on 130 Toll Road from Georgetown to I-10 just east of SA. Just start them in the Alamodome and go from there when ready. And BTW no sane person drives to Jerryworld from anywhere S of Austin to see the boys. More likely to Steal fans from the Texans.
Alamodome is a great place for a football game, honestly.
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I'd go if it was in S.A. because they have a new 80 and 85 mph legal straight shot on 130 Toll Road from Georgetown to I-10 just east of SA. Just start them in the Alamodome and go from there when ready. And BTW no sane person drives to Jerryworld from anywhere S of Austin to see the boys. More likely to Steal fans from the Texans.
Alamodome is a great place for a football game, honestly.
Alamodome is a great place for a football game, honestly.
I'm sure it is....but I doubt any NFL teams are going to move there because of how old it is. Any team relocating is going to want a shiny new stadium with lots of luxury boxes and restaurants and all that bull shit so they can rake in more money. Jerry World set the bar and now each team is going to want one of them if they move to a new city.
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All of u are missing the point, these players hate playing in and for cleveland. They dont want to come here. Those that do play such half asses football im not even sure they play the same game. Srsly i know we've all switched over to the late games after watching the browns turd it up, and those games just look different. Watching two competent teams play against each other u can see how sht moves differently in those games. Its like the browns play ncaafb 1.5
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This ought to be updated...T
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They absolutley should get this sh*tshow out of Cleveland...They have got to be costing the NFL tons of money...Other NFL owners probably cringe when they see them on the schedule...yes, it's an automatic win for any other team, but they are losing so much in parking, consession, and ticket sales...due to the Browns...The NFL needs a commitee of NFL minds to get something going for this organization of NFL sewage...It's downright criminal, what they are doing to the NFL and the people of Cleveland who have to pay to wathc such a sorry excuse for an NFL team.....Jump across the Lake and play in Toronto...they would love to have an NFL team and I think it would be good for the NFL ..
there ya go...
problem solved..!
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All of u are missing the point, these players hate playing in and for cleveland. They dont want to come here. Those that do play such half asses football im not even sure they play the same game. Srsly i know we've all switched over to the late games after watching the browns turd it up, and those games just look different. Watching two competent teams play against each other u can see how sht moves differently in those games. Its like the browns play ncaafb 1.5
All of u are missing the point, these players hate playing in and for cleveland. They dont want to come here. Those that do play such half asses football im not even sure they play the same game. Srsly i know we've all switched over to the late games after watching the browns turd it up, and those games just look different. Watching two competent teams play against each other u can see how sht moves differently in those games. Its like the browns play ncaafb 1.5
Come on now, I'd say you're correct in a few cases, like Bowe, Britt recently, probably Johnny as well. The big name FAs, yes, they're avoiding Cleveland until things improve.
It looks to my simple brain that Duke, Ogbah, Garrett, Higgins, #73, Kirksey, Peppers, DeValve, Njoku want to play hard, and want to play here. I'd throw Kizer in there too. These young guys just aren't winning, but I'd say they are just as passionate as a Dolphin, Steeler, Patriot, whatever team. I've been critical of Corey Coleman but at least he looked like he cared Sunday after his stone hands let him down.
Losing is making all of us fans bitter. Let's not turn on each other. Cleveland is a great football city.
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All of u are missing the point, these players hate playing in and for cleveland. They dont want to come here. Those that do play such half asses football im not even sure they play the same game. Srsly i know we've all switched over to the late games after watching the browns turd it up, and those games just look different. Watching two competent teams play against each other u can see how sht moves differently in those games. Its like the browns play ncaafb 1.5
Come on now, I'd say you're correct in a few cases, like Bowe, Britt recently, probably Johnny as well. The big name FAs, yes, they're avoiding Cleveland until things improve.
It looks to my simple brain that Duke, Ogbah, Garrett, Higgins, #73, Kirksey, Peppers, DeValve, Njoku want to play hard, and want to play here. I'd throw Kizer in there too. These young guys just aren't winning, but I'd say they are just as passionate as a Dolphin, Steeler, Patriot, whatever team. I've been critical of Corey Coleman but at least he looked like he cared Sunday after his stone hands let him down.
Losing is making all of us fans bitter. Let's not turn on each other. Cleveland is a great football city.
Come on now, I'd say you're correct in a few cases, like Bowe, Britt recently, probably Johnny as well. The big name FAs, yes, they're avoiding Cleveland until things improve.
It looks to my simple brain that Duke, Ogbah, Garrett, Higgins, #73, Kirksey, Peppers, DeValve, Njoku want to play hard, and want to play here. I'd throw Kizer in there too. These young guys just aren't winning, but I'd say they are just as passionate as a Dolphin, Steeler, Patriot, whatever team. I've been critical of Corey Coleman but at least he looked like he cared Sunday after his stone hands let him down.
Losing is making all of us fans bitter. Let's not turn on each other. Cleveland is a great football city.
Bob,
Very well said.Thank you.
Mike
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The cleveland browns should stop pretending to be the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns are dead. They are the Baltimore Ravens. The cleveland browns should suspend football operations, change the name and colors and resume as an entirely new team.
Gallagher II sucked, Sammy Hagar sucked and the cleveland browns suck.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
All of u are missing the point, these players hate playing in and for cleveland. They dont want to come here. Those that do play such half asses football im not even sure they play the same game. Srsly i know we've all switched over to the late games after watching the browns turd it up, and those games just look different. Watching two competent teams play against each other u can see how sht moves differently in those games. Its like the browns play ncaafb 1.5
All of u are missing the point, these players hate playing in and for cleveland. They dont want to come here. Those that do play such half asses football im not even sure they play the same game. Srsly i know we've all switched over to the late games after watching the browns turd it up, and those games just look different. Watching two competent teams play against each other u can see how sht moves differently in those games. Its like the browns play ncaafb 1.5
Don't be a fuhucking idiot. It is not "Cleveland" that they may not want to play for....it is this HC, this owner. (and we have no clue about the new GM)
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They absolutley should get this sh*tshow out of Cleveland...They have got to be costing the NFL tons of money...Other NFL owners probably cringe when they see them on the schedule...yes, it's an automatic win for any other team, but they are losing so much in parking, consession, and ticket sales...due to the Browns...The NFL needs a commitee of NFL minds to get something going for this organization of NFL sewage...It's downright criminal, what they are doing to the NFL and the people of Cleveland who have to pay to wathc such a sorry excuse for an NFL team.....Jump across the Lake and play in Toronto...they would love to have an NFL team and I think it would be good for the NFL ..
there ya go...
problem solved..!
They absolutley should get this sh*tshow out of Cleveland...They have got to be costing the NFL tons of money...Other NFL owners probably cringe when they see them on the schedule...yes, it's an automatic win for any other team, but they are losing so much in parking, consession, and ticket sales...due to the Browns...The NFL needs a commitee of NFL minds to get something going for this organization of NFL sewage...It's downright criminal, what they are doing to the NFL and the people of Cleveland who have to pay to wathc such a sorry excuse for an NFL team.....Jump across the Lake and play in Toronto...they would love to have an NFL team and I think it would be good for the NFL ..
there ya go...
problem solved..!
Fuhuck you and your one fuhucking post.
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The cleveland browns should stop pretending to be the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns are dead. They are the Baltimore Ravens. The cleveland browns should suspend football operations, change the name and colors and resume as an entirely new team.
Gallagher II sucked, Sammy Hagar sucked and the cleveland browns suck.
The cleveland browns should stop pretending to be the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns are dead. They are the Baltimore Ravens. The cleveland browns should suspend football operations, change the name and colors and resume as an entirely new team.
Gallagher II sucked, Sammy Hagar sucked and the cleveland browns suck.
Then go the fuyuck off and be a fuyucking Ravens fans you squishy pussy.
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Typical cowpoop response. I get it you're willing to be a bitch and let the memory of the browns become a joke. I'm personally pretty disgusted with what the browns have become.
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Typical cowpoop response. I get it you're willing to be a bitch and let the memory of the browns become a joke. I'm personally pretty disgusted with what the browns have become.
Typical cowpoop response. I get it you're willing to be a bitch and let the memory of the browns become a joke. I'm personally pretty disgusted with what the browns have become.
Yes, so am I.....but I am not stupidly willing to play idiotic games with their legacy. e.g. for 40 years the Steelers were the completed dregs of the league as a football team. That was also fairly much the case with the Pats for a 30 year period. Are they both jokes? The Saints were garbage for 30-40 years. A number of the so called premier teams of this league had long stints of suckitude. So, just because we are in a bad turn...does not mean this will last forever. So...don't be stupid by talking about things like moving the team or renaming it. Other teams have actually done both...so fuhuck that.
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They absolutley should get this sh*tshow out of Cleveland...They have got to be costing the NFL tons of money...Other NFL owners probably cringe when they see them on the schedule...yes, it's an automatic win for any other team, but they are losing so much in parking, consession, and ticket sales...due to the Browns...The NFL needs a commitee of NFL minds to get something going for this organization of NFL sewage...It's downright criminal, what they are doing to the NFL and the people of Cleveland who have to pay to wathc such a sorry excuse for an NFL team.....Jump across the Lake and play in Toronto...they would love to have an NFL team and I think it would be good for the NFL ..
there ya go...
problem solved..!
Fuhuck you and your one fuhucking post.
Fuhuck you and your one fuhucking post.
ahh, spoken like a true Cleeliner!!!
Well, I'd post more if this joke of an NFL team did anything worth posting about over the last few years...1 post is all ya need when the team goes 1-31 for a 2 year season...there ain't much to post about...but now that I see it pisses you off...you can expect to see many more post from me...
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Fuhuck you and your one fuhucking post.
ahh, spoken like a true Cleeliner!!!
Well, I'd post more if this joke of an NFL team did anything worth posting about over the last few years...1 post is all ya need when the team goes 1-31 for a 2 year season...there ain't much to post about...but now that I see it pisses you off...you can expect to see many more post from me...
ahh, spoken like a true Cleeliner!!!
Well, I'd post more if this joke of an NFL team did anything worth posting about over the last few years...1 post is all ya need when the team goes 1-31 for a 2 year season...there ain't much to post about...but now that I see it pisses you off...you can expect to see many more post from me...
Here is hoping that your one post will be the nadir of your participation on here.....but somehow I suspect it will not be.
Besides....you know little about human nature, apparently. Ask the mods here.....this board gets far more run when the Browns are shite likely than if they are good. If you were really looking for pollyannas to blow rainbow fairy dust up your arse, arseling...I suggest you have come to the wrong place.
(and what is a Cleeliner?)
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