Alex smith
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Well thanks to the Titans, Smith is now available.
But what will the asking price be Ag?
But what will the asking price be Ag?
Of course by draft time, KC will be asking for a 1st round pick just as Belicheck with Jimmy G. Why not, When ya have No 1st round pick,why not ask for the Moon. KC will be looking at teams later in the draft such as Buffalo/Jags/Zona teams a QB away with ageing veterans rosters to jump at Alex. Lets just say after pick 22, is their a QB on the board better than Alex that can start Now?..This time Elway won't be jumping for guys like Paxton Lynch..and no, KC will not trade Alex in division but will have no complaints asking for a 1st..We sit at #33 & what else? maybe KC's offer?????(Reid's plan was moving Hogan to KC PS..that poker chip is in the pot imo)
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That Colin Kaepernick fellow is still sitting around doing jack Sh!t and could probably be signed for a dollar fifty. I don't like all the racially and politically charged nonsense that's come in the wake of his protest but I hear he used to be a decent football player once upon a time.
That Colin Kaepernick fellow is still sitting around doing jack Sh!t and could probably be signed for a dollar fifty. I don't like all the racially and politically charged nonsense that's come in the wake of his protest but I hear he used to be a decent football player once upon a time.
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That Colin Kaepernick fellow is still sitting around doing jack Sh!t and could probably be signed for a dollar fifty. I don't like all the racially and politically charged nonsense that's come in the wake of his protest but I hear he used to be a decent football player once upon a time.
That Colin Kaepernick fellow is still sitting around doing jack Sh!t and could probably be signed for a dollar fifty. I don't like all the racially and politically charged nonsense that's come in the wake of his protest but I hear he used to be a decent football player once upon a time.
If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
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That Colin Kaepernick fellow is still sitting around doing jack Sh!t and could probably be signed for a dollar fifty. I don't like all the racially and politically charged nonsense that's come in the wake of his protest but I hear he used to be a decent football player once upon a time.
If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
You might feel this way, but I can guarantee this would be an epic constant fight on here if Kaepernick was signed by the Browns.
He should have a NFL job, I have a hard time believing there are 64+ better QBs in the NFL.
I just don't want to see the circus it would start on here, plus he's not a good fit IMO. I want Kizer as the #3, Rosen or Darnold as the backup, and Alex Smith/ Teddy Twatwater/Case Keenum/Sam Bradford/Tyrod Taylor/AJ McCarron as the starter.
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If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
You might feel this way, but I can guarantee this would be an epic constant fight on here if Kaepernick was signed by the Browns.
He should have a NFL job, I have a hard time believing there are 64+ better QBs in the NFL.
I just don't want to see the circus it would start on here, plus he's not a good fit IMO. I want Kizer as the #3, Rosen or Darnold as the backup, and Alex Smith/ Teddy Twatwater/Case Keenum/Sam Bradford/Tyrod Taylor/AJ McCarron as the starter.
You might feel this way, but I can guarantee this would be an epic constant fight on here if Kaepernick was signed by the Browns.
He should have a NFL job, I have a hard time believing there are 64+ better QBs in the NFL.
I just don't want to see the circus it would start on here, plus he's not a good fit IMO . I want Kizer as the #3, Rosen or Darnold as the backup, and Alex Smith/ Teddy Twatwater/Case Keenum/Sam Bradford/Tyrod Taylor/AJ McCarron as the starter.
Oh yeah the media spotlight would be really on Cleveland and for more than the 0-16 thing. Who knows it might be good for local business, might even sell a few more BROWNS game tickets.
As a starting Quarterback who knows might be a stopgap until the next draft day rookie savior is ready to put in the breech and fire into live action. More drama in Cleveland.
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Alex Smith led the NFL in quarterback rating this season, and so far he looks every bit the part.
I'm firmly in the camp that the Browns NOT take a QB with the first pick in the draft. Rather, I'd prefer that they acquire a true NFL-caliber quarterback by, well, getting a current NFL quarterback. Smith via trade, or Cousins via free agency, either works for me.
If the Browns do pick up one of those two it provides Dorsey with flexibility to trade down for more picks or, my preference, stay put and draft blue chip studs at #1 and #4.
Alex Smith led the NFL in quarterback rating this season, and so far he looks every bit the part.
I'm firmly in the camp that the Browns NOT take a QB with the first pick in the draft. Rather, I'd prefer that they acquire a true NFL-caliber quarterback by, well, getting a current NFL quarterback. Smith via trade, or Cousins via free agency, either works for me.
If the Browns do pick up one of those two it provides Dorsey with flexibility to trade down for more picks or, my preference, stay put and draft blue chip studs at #1 and #4.
I like or Kirk cousins if available
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That Colin Kaepernick fellow is still sitting around doing jack Sh!t and could probably be signed for a dollar fifty. I don't like all the racially and politically charged nonsense that's come in the wake of his protest but I hear he used to be a decent football player once upon a time.
If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
A young team struggling to learn how to win needs to minimize distractions. Haslam doesn't appear to be the brightest bulb, but I' sure even he learned from the Johnny disaster.
Can you imagine all the media swarming in to Cleveland, to cover Kaepernick? No thanks.
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Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
- Offer Philly’s second for Smith.
- Sign two veteran WR’s, preferably a true slot and a solid #2.
- Play the Giants off the Broncos for the #1 pick. Send it to NYG for #2, 2018 second-round pick + 2019 third round pick. If they don’t bite, send it to Denver for #5 and a 2019 first + 2018 second.
Take Minkah with the first pick, Darnold with the second.
It’s easy as pie and all very doable.
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Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
- Offer Philly’s second for Smith.
- Sign two veteran WR’s, preferably a true slot and a solid #2.
- Play the Giants off the Broncos for the #1 pick. Send it to NYG for #2, 2018 second-round pick + 2019 third round pick. If they don’t bite, send it to Denver for #5 and a 2019 first + 2018 second.
Take Minkah with the first pick, Darnold with the second.
It’s easy as pie and all very doable.
Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
- Offer Philly’s second for Smith.
- Sign two veteran WR’s, preferably a true slot and a solid #2.
- Play the Giants off the Broncos for the #1 pick. Send it to NYG for #2, 2018 second-round pick + 2019 third round pick. If they don’t bite, send it to Denver for #5 and a 2019 first + 2018 second.
Take Minkah with the first pick, Darnold with the second.
It’s easy as pie and all very doable.
Giants won't trade a thing since they are likely to be ok with either QB @ #2. And if you trade out with Denver, Darnold won't be there @ #4 or 5. Just not logical for either event to happen, but especially the latter.
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I am skeptical that Alex Smith comes here. Hue has a hard-on for McCarron and I think that's who the Browns will target as their veteran QB, since Haslam seems intent on keeping Hue happy. Haslam is putting a ton of pressure on the FO to find a QB so the Browns will use the #1 pick on a QB. I like Mayfield but I think the Browns will either go Rosen or Darnold, hopefully they won't go Allen but who knows what they'll do. Hopefully Fitzpatrick will still be there at #4, secondary needs serious help if Williams insists on blitzing and having 1 on 1 coverage in the secondary.
Remember when Kessler was setting rookie records for a Browns QB? seems like ages ago, he could have been the Browns version of Alex Smith had they stuck with him. Too bad the Browns suck at developing QBs and insist on throwing guys out there for trial by fire. Browns need a guy who can coach himself, since he won't be getting any good coaching here. Kizer has the maturity and the work ethic but those panicky situations where he tries to do too much have ruined his rookie season, best case scenario = kizer makes a huge turnaround and calms down, earns the starting position so we don't have to watch McCarron show why he couldn't beat out Dalton or another year of rookie mistakes from the #1 draft pick.
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I am skeptical that Alex Smith comes here. Hue has a hard-on for McCarron and I think that's who the Browns will target as their veteran QB, since Haslam seems intent on keeping Hue happy. Haslam is putting a ton of pressure on the FO to find a QB so the Browns will use the #1 pick on a QB. I like Mayfield but I think the Browns will either go Rosen or Darnold, hopefully they won't go Allen but who knows what they'll do. Hopefully Fitzpatrick will still be there at #4, secondary needs serious help if Williams insists on blitzing and having 1 on 1 coverage in the secondary.
Remember when Kessler was setting rookie records for a Browns QB? seems like ages ago, he could have been the Browns version of Alex Smith had they stuck with him. Too bad the Browns suck at developing QBs and insist on throwing guys out there for trial by fire. Browns need a guy who can coach himself, since he won't be getting any good coaching here. Kizer has the maturity and the work ethic but those panicky situations where he tries to do too much have ruined his rookie season, best case scenario = kizer makes a huge turnaround and calms down, earns the starting position so we don't have to watch McCarron show why he couldn't beat out Dalton or another year of rookie mistakes from the #1 draft pick.
I am skeptical that Alex Smith comes here.
He's under contract for the 2018 season.
If the Browns make a trade with Kansas City for Smith, he wouldn't have any choice.
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Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
- Offer Philly’s second for Smith.
- Sign two veteran WR’s, preferably a true slot and a solid #2.
- Play the Giants off the Broncos for the #1 pick. Send it to NYG for #2, 2018 second-round pick + 2019 third round pick. If they don’t bite, send it to Denver for #5 and a 2019 first + 2018 second.
Take Minkah with the first pick, Darnold with the second.
It’s easy as pie and all very doable.
Giants won't trade a thing since they are likely to be ok with either QB @ #2. And if you trade out with Denver, Darnold won't be there @ #4 or 5. Just not logical for either event to happen, but especially the latter.
Giants won't trade a thing since they are likely to be ok with either QB @ #2. And if you trade out with Denver, Darnold won't be there @ #4 or 5. Just not logical for either event to happen, but especially the latter.
They’ll prefer one or the other. That’s what good front offices and coaching staffs do, they don’t just go “meh, we’ll take whoever”, especially when the QB’s have different skillsets. Whether that’s Rosen or Darnold is yet to be decided, but you can bet it will be one or the other.
I also don’t buy Rosen/Darnold #1/#2. Not when there’s two other QB’s poised to have strong combines and interviews. A QB needy team will fall in love with Allen and a team will fall in love with Mayfield and that will take two teams out of contention as tradeup possibilities.
The only issue is that one of those teams could be Denver, with Allen. Elway likes big arms.
Regardless, I don’t believe it will be a 1/2 QB year.
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I'm all for Smith or Cousins.
KC would save $17 million in cap space by releasing Smith and the full $22 million if they can trade him before his bonus kicks in.
If we get Smith, we still draft a QB at #1, and he sits 2-4 years.
If we get Cousins (odds are much lower), then we don't HAVE to take a QB at 1 bc Kirk would be our starter for 5+ years possibly. The only benefit to still drafting a QB at 1 would be, if all goes well, we shouldn't have another opportunity to draft this high.
Man... an awful lot of retreads being bandied about here.
If we get Smith, we still draft a QB at #1, and he sits 2-4 years.
4? Sit all the way thru the rookie contract and then play in the 5th year option?
It's two tops... and even then you are looking at drafting another QB just in case.
Actually the key question is what will Dorsey be willing to give up. He did bring him in to KC for an early second and a conditional mid-rounder according to this article. I don't know who those turned out to be or where in the mid rounds they gave up the pick.
I'm also not sure if KC has cap problems that will require then to drop Smith anyway. Heard rumors but don't know the particulars.
About the right price...
And, yes, KC has serious cap issues...
2018 Total Cap Liabilities: $185,916,155 - Top 51: $180,109,232 - Team Cap Space: ($4,824,812) as in they are almost $5mm in the hole for 2018. -
If he'd be willing to sign for a reasonable price than by all means. As a fan of team is 1-31 I really don't care about kneeling, I'll take some victories and then worry about how they look. Michael Vick is on TV and what he did was a thousand times worse. Do we still talk about Crows twitter rants? The Cleveland Browns need good football players.
A young team struggling to learn how to win needs to minimize distractions. Haslam doesn't appear to be the brightest bulb, but I' sure even he learned from the Johnny disaster.
Can you imagine all the media swarming in to Cleveland, to cover Kaepernick? No thanks.
A young team struggling to learn how to win needs to minimize distractions. Haslam doesn't appear to be the brightest bulb, but I' sure even he learned from the Johnny disaster.
Can you imagine all the media swarming in to Cleveland, to cover Kaepernick? No thanks.
Let the swarm. Nothing distracting the team this year or last, 1-31.
I think we've allowed the media to run wild concerning Kaep, just check the numbers and compare them to Cleveland's jesus. I'll grant that the game has moved more in the passing direction but there were QBs like Marino, Montana, Moon, Elway etc. who lit people up in the 80s & 90s.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KaepCo00.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KosaBe00.htm
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Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
- Offer Philly’s second for Smith.
- Sign two veteran WR’s, preferably a true slot and a solid #2.
- Play the Giants off the Broncos for the #1 pick. Send it to NYG for #2, 2018 second-round pick + 2019 third round pick. If they don’t bite, send it to Denver for #5 and a 2019 first + 2018 second.
Take Minkah with the first pick, Darnold with the second.
It’s easy as pie and all very doable.
Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
Completely agree on Cousins... he has money, he'll go after rings and that likely sends him to JAX.
Let the swarm. Nothing distracting the team this year or last, 1-31.
I have no issues with Kaep other than I can't see him being a part of the solution.
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I don't want to trade anything of value. If we can overpay one of these bums great. I'd rather take a quarterback at number one and another one in the second round than to trade the second round pick.
WSS
So you're saying that Alex Smith isn't worth as much as Kizer?
I'd take Alex Smith, #1, #4 & #33 and give up #35.
So you're saying that Alex Smith isn't worth as much as Kizer?
I'd take Alex Smith, #1, #4 & #33 and give up #35.
Not sure I'm following you. You would give 1 and 4 and 33 to get Alex Smith?
I will trade them Kizer straight up.
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F U C K Kaep.
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Man... an awful lot of retreads being bandied about here.
If we get Smith, we still draft a QB at #1, and he sits 2-4 years.
4? Sit all the way thru the rookie contract and then play in the 5th year option?
It's two tops... and even then you are looking at drafting another QB just in case.
Actually the key question is what will Dorsey be willing to give up. He did bring him in to KC for an early second and a conditional mid-rounder according to this article. I don't know who those turned out to be or where in the mid rounds they gave up the pick.
I'm also not sure if KC has cap problems that will require then to drop Smith anyway. Heard rumors but don't know the particulars.
About the right price...
And, yes, KC has serious cap issues...
2018 Total Cap Liabilities: $185,916,155 - Top 51: $180,109,232 - Team Cap Space: ($4,824,812) as in they are almost $5mm in the hole for 2018.And, yes, KC has serious cap issues...
2018 Total Cap Liabilities: $185,916,155 - Top 51: $180,109,232 - Team Cap Space: ($4,824,812) as in they are almost $5mm in the hole for 2018.Their GM must have been really good...
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Cousins won’t come here, save for us offering him like $40m a year. We can forget about that happening.
Completely agree on Cousins... he has money, he'll go after rings and that likely sends him to JAX.
Let the swarm. Nothing distracting the team this year or last, 1-31.
I have no issues with Kaep other than I can't see him being a part of the solution.
Completely agree on Cousins... he has money, he'll go after rings and that likely sends him to JAX.
I have no issues with Kaep other than I can't see him being a part of the solution.
After watching the Jags- Bills game please scratch Bortles and Taylor off as QBs you want to see on the Browns....
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Completely agree on Cousins... he has money, he'll go after rings and that likely sends him to JAX.
I have no issues with Kaep other than I can't see him being a part of the solution.
After watching the Jags- Bills game please scratch Bortles and Taylor off as QBs you want to see on the Browns....
After watching the Jags- Bills game please scratch Bortles and Taylor off as QBs you want to see on the Browns....
That game set the game of football back 100 years, yes?
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