The games deliver Ghoolie's lessons
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You are an idiot if you think that. They came up against the best Defense in the NFL. the defense that had the most sacks. They may have gotten their butt handed to them a bit in this game....but they protected him well enough for BR to throw 5 TDs and for 469 yards.
I wish you were right...I wish the Steelers OL sucked swamp water....I wish it was so bad that BR was having his arse handed to him every game...but it is not like that. It is one of the best and best coached OLs in the game.
I hope that their OL coach is enticed to go elsewhere. He is a former HC...and is, I understand, being interviewed for a couple of HC jobs. Lets hope he gets one.
I dont think, I know that youre an idiot.
The Steelers OL and DL used to be one of the best in the NFL and could go toe to toe with any team. Against Jax, Ben threw hail marys and his WRs came down with the ball. The OL is not fine and Pitt has been winning nail biters all season.
The Steelers are not a dominate team in the trenches anymore. They are a soccer team.
I dont think, I know that youre an idiot.
The Steelers OL and DL used to be one of the best in the NFL and could go toe to toe with any team.
one word there fagley one word
STEROIDS
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I dont think, I know that youre an idiot.
The Steelers OL and DL used to be one of the best in the NFL and could go toe to toe with any team.
one word there fagley one word
STEROIDS
one word there fagley one word
STEROIDS
Damn straight Syd Viscous.
Pitt ripped off 4 championships like nothing before the hammer came down.
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Tom.....can you believe they called a pitchout on 4th and the length of Stans peepee? WHo calls plays like that? 9 men in the box, and a pitchout? Parallel to the LOS?
Well said. Even worse, Pitt pulled 1 or 2 linemen that bellied back instead of staying tight to the line of scrimmage (because the right side of their line got pushed back); which caused the RB to belly back as well. You do that to a loaded box with fast LBers and they're going to swarm in right off/behind the fannies of the pulling linemen. This completely closed off any chance for Bell to cut back while the defense pursued, clamped and closed. Couldn't have been any easier for Jax.
It would be fun to see Jax win this whole thing. I don't know if they're balanced enough; but they have LBers and a secondary that matches up well with NE's strengths. Plus they can put heat on the passer and run the ball. Looking forward to this week's games.
Well said. Even worse, Pitt pulled 1 or 2 linemen that bellied back instead of staying tight to the line of scrimmage (because the right side of their line got pushed back); which caused the RB to belly back as well. You do that to a loaded box with fast LBers and they're going to swarm in right off/behind the fannies of the pulling linemen. This completely closed off any chance for Bell to cut back while the defense pursued, clamped and closed. Couldn't have been any easier for Jax.
It would be fun to see Jax win this whole thing. I don't know if they're balanced enough; but they have LBers and a secondary that matches up well with NE's strengths. Plus they can put heat on the passer and run the ball. Looking forward to this week's games.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
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Well said. Even worse, Pitt pulled 1 or 2 linemen that bellied back instead of staying tight to the line of scrimmage (because the right side of their line got pushed back); which caused the RB to belly back as well. You do that to a loaded box with fast LBers and they're going to swarm in right off/behind the fannies of the pulling linemen. This completely closed off any chance for Bell to cut back while the defense pursued, clamped and closed. Couldn't have been any easier for Jax.
It would be fun to see Jax win this whole thing. I don't know if they're balanced enough; but they have LBers and a secondary that matches up well with NE's strengths. Plus they can put heat on the passer and run the ball. Looking forward to this week's games.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
Anything can happen. Maybe the Jags are the next Patriots? They won 12 games this season and a bunch of guys contribute on offense. They are balanced. Bortles just makes plays when they need them. Brady didnt wow anybody in 2001 either.
Seriously about QBs. They make or break you. They make the OL look like the 5 blocks of granite. Not the other way around of the OL making Kizer look like Jim Kelly. Lots of NFL QBs come and go with the physical ability that made them big stars in college. The NFL game is 3 D chess and decision making is as important as a strong arm.
All bets are off on the Browns constant losing and coming in last in 2018 if they land a real QB like Alex Smith and draft a beast. Youre not winning jack squat without a QB in the NFL.
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Want some stats for the past? Or present on how teams win? They are easy to find. The 2 most decorated QBs of ALL TIME were a 3rd and 6th round picks
Who do you consider the most "decorated" QBs of all time? I will take a guess and say you mean Tom Brady and Joe Montana.
Terry Bradshaw is every bit as decorated as Montana, AND a far better QB. You saw what happened to Montana when he didn't have DeBartolo to pay off refs. Montana was a phony. He was over rated and played for the mafia. He couldn't hold Bradshaw's sweaty balls. This is why Hollywood, TV AND the NFL seek Bradshaw out and pay him. Montana is doing Viagra commercials.
So...just to help you out with your point, here you go: Tom Brady #199 overall pick. Joe Montana #82 overall pick. And here is more fuel for you fire: another guy that won 5 titles: #200 overall pick. Mr. Bart Starr.
But, I will give some counterpoint to your theory: The QB that won the most Championships....with 7...was Otto Graham...and he was a #4 overall pick (of the Lions in 1944).
And the other QBs who have won 3 or more titles:
Terry Bradshaw...#1 overall...4 wins
Sid Luckman...#2 overall....4 wins
Troy Aikman....#1 overall....3 wins
John Unitias....#102 overall....3 wins
The other guy that sort of fits is Len Dawson....he won an AFL title, and a Super Bowl...and another AFL title but lost that Super Bowl he was a #5 overall pick.
If you don't go by just titles won...but by how "revered" they are as a QB.... you can also look at:
Peyton Manning #1 overall
John Elway #1 overall
Brett Favre #33 overall
Dan Marino #27 overall
Drew Brees #32 overall
Plus....others who have throw for over 50K yards in their careers....all 2004 guys:
Eli #1
Rivers #4
Ben R. #11.
Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
Tom, Gipper is such a crotchety old fart that he had season tickets during the Otto Graham era. He tailgated out of the back of his Model T.
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Well said. Even worse, Pitt pulled 1 or 2 linemen that bellied back instead of staying tight to the line of scrimmage (because the right side of their line got pushed back); which caused the RB to belly back as well. You do that to a loaded box with fast LBers and they're going to swarm in right off/behind the fannies of the pulling linemen. This completely closed off any chance for Bell to cut back while the defense pursued, clamped and closed. Couldn't have been any easier for Jax.
It would be fun to see Jax win this whole thing. I don't know if they're balanced enough; but they have LBers and a secondary that matches up well with NE's strengths. Plus they can put heat on the passer and run the ball. Looking forward to this week's games.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
you clearly don't value the fat-butt factor..OL coach Scarnicki should get more value in that Pats. coaching staff than he does. 1st quarter, If the Jags DL beats up Pats OL? Jags got a chance. If Jags got to blitz to get to Brady, Gronk will make them pay worse than McDonald last week..Jags got under 4 secs. to Brady or the winning door closes quickly..Jags with Marone is all about winning up front on both sides of ball
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I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
you clearly don't value the fat-butt factor..OL coach Scarnicki should get more value in that Pats. coaching staff than he does. 1st quarter, If the Jags DL beats up Pats OL? Jags got a chance. If Jags got to blitz to get to Brady, Gronk will make them pay worse than McDonald last week..Jags got under 4 secs. to Brady or the winning door closes quickly..Jags with Marone is all about winning up front on both sides of ball
you clearly don't value the fat-butt factor..OL coach Scarnicki should get more value in that Pats. coaching staff than he does. 1st quarter, If the Jags DL beats up Pats OL? Jags got a chance. If Jags got to blitz to get to Brady, Gronk will make them pay worse than McDonald last week..Jags got under 4 secs. to Brady or the winning door closes quickly..Jags with Marone it's all about winning up front on both sides of ball
Gronk may be the key to the Patriots winning another ring and Brady yet another SB MVP.
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Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
Tom, Gipper is such a crotchety old fart that he had season tickets during the Otto Graham era. He tailgated out of the back of his Model T.
Tom, Gipper is such a crotchety old fart that he had season tickets during the Otto Graham era. He tailgated out of the back of his Model T.
Now he carries it on his walker.
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You are an idiot if you think that. They came up against the best Defense in the NFL. the defense that had the most sacks. They may have gotten their butt handed to them a bit in this game....but they protected him well enough for BR to throw 5 TDs and for 469 yards.
I wish you were right...I wish the Steelers OL sucked swamp water....I wish it was so bad that BR was having his arse handed to him every game...but it is not like that. It is one of the best and best coached OLs in the game.
I hope that their OL coach is enticed to go elsewhere. He is a former HC...and is, I understand, being interviewed for a couple of HC jobs. Lets hope he gets one.
I dont think, I know that youre an idiot.
The Steelers OL and DL used to be one of the best in the NFL and could go toe to toe with any team. Against Jax, Ben threw hail marys and his WRs came down with the ball. The OL is not fine and Pitt has been winning nail biters all season.
The Steelers are not a dominate team in the trenches anymore. They are a soccer team.
I dont think, I know that youre an idiot.
The Steelers OL and DL used to be one of the best in the NFL and could go toe to toe with any team. Against Jax, Ben threw hail marys and his WRs came down with the ball. The OL is not fine and Pitt has been winning nail biters all season.
The Steelers are not a dominate team in the trenches anymore. They are a soccer team.
I will accept the opinion of any football expert on who is right...you or me. I say that the Steelers OL is just fine...one of the best in the NFL. You say it sucks.
98% of football experts will take my side.
I wish you were right. I wish the Steelers OL was just suckass. But it isn't. And you are the consensus idiot of America if you think otherwise.
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Well said. Even worse, Pitt pulled 1 or 2 linemen that bellied back instead of staying tight to the line of scrimmage (because the right side of their line got pushed back); which caused the RB to belly back as well. You do that to a loaded box with fast LBers and they're going to swarm in right off/behind the fannies of the pulling linemen. This completely closed off any chance for Bell to cut back while the defense pursued, clamped and closed. Couldn't have been any easier for Jax.
It would be fun to see Jax win this whole thing. I don't know if they're balanced enough; but they have LBers and a secondary that matches up well with NE's strengths. Plus they can put heat on the passer and run the ball. Looking forward to this week's games.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
Yes....Brady is past his prime.....but he is still one of the best likely 2 QBs in the league.
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Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
Tom, Gipper is such a crotchety old fart that he had season tickets during the Otto Graham era. He tailgated out of the back of his Model T.
Tom, Gipper is such a crotchety old fart that he had season tickets during the Otto Graham era. He tailgated out of the back of his Model T.
So....are you putting yourself in the bucket of ignorant arseholes along with Ghoolie?
Are you as Stupid as a Steeler fan? "The world didn't exist before the Steelers started winning" The world didn't exist before the Patriots started winning. Both Franchises were the laughing stock of 2 different leagues for 40 years each.....but those years don't count in your ignorant minds...and nothing counts before they started being winners.
Well....that would be great if we could do that. If nothing before the early 70s counted...then we can then conclude that nothing that Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson etc. etc. Nothing of what they did counts. Good...lets completely diminish the Yankees accomplisments all those years.
Same for Basketball. Nothing counts before the merger with the ABA...... Nothing Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, George Mikan, Oscar Robertson,Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Bob Petit....nothing of their careers counts at all.
Same for hockey....not that I know much about hockey...but a few names like Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard, Stan Mikita...nothing they ever did counted.
You guys are the biggest morons of our generation.
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Want some stats for the past? Or present on how teams win? They are easy to find. The 2 most decorated QBs of ALL TIME were a 3rd and 6th round picks
Who do you consider the most "decorated" QBs of all time? I will take a guess and say you mean Tom Brady and Joe Montana.
Terry Bradshaw is every bit as decorated as Montana, AND a far better QB. You saw what happened to Montana when he didn't have DeBartolo to pay off refs. Montana was a phony. He was over rated and played for the mafia. He couldn't hold Bradshaw's sweaty balls. This is why Hollywood, TV AND the NFL seek Bradshaw out and pay him. Montana is doing Viagra commercials.
So...just to help you out with your point, here you go: Tom Brady #199 overall pick. Joe Montana #82 overall pick. And here is more fuel for you fire: another guy that won 5 titles: #200 overall pick. Mr. Bart Starr.
But, I will give some counterpoint to your theory: The QB that won the most Championships....with 7...was Otto Graham...and he was a #4 overall pick (of the Lions in 1944).
And the other QBs who have won 3 or more titles:
Terry Bradshaw...#1 overall...4 wins
Sid Luckman...#2 overall....4 wins
Troy Aikman....#1 overall....3 wins
John Unitias....#102 overall....3 wins
The other guy that sort of fits is Len Dawson....he won an AFL title, and a Super Bowl...and another AFL title but lost that Super Bowl he was a #5 overall pick.
If you don't go by just titles won...but by how "revered" they are as a QB.... you can also look at:
Peyton Manning #1 overall
John Elway #1 overall
Brett Favre #33 overall
Dan Marino #27 overall
Drew Brees #32 overall
Plus....others who have throw for over 50K yards in their careers....all 2004 guys:
Eli #1
Rivers #4
Ben R. #11.
Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
& When they rename the Super Bowl the World Bowl or Universe Bowl, all those Championships the Steelers won in the 70s will mean as much as Otto's. You'd have to be damn near 50 to even remember them.
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Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
& When they rename the Super Bowl the World Bowl or Universe Bowl, all those Championships the Steelers won in the 70s will mean as much as Otto's. You'd have to be damn near 50 to even remember them.
& When they rename the Super Bowl the World Bowl or Universe Bowl, all those Championships the Steelers won in the 70s will mean as much as Otto's. You'd have to be damn near 50 to even remember them.
75% of people now remember the Steel Curtain as well as they remember the Akron Pros. ..or the Napoleanic Wars.
Now...there was a matchup and names to remember;
Salamanca!
Badajoz!
Trafalgar!
Leipzig!
The Pyramids!
The March to Russia!
The Battle of the Nile!
and, of course, Waterloo!
Nelson! Wellington!
Blucher!
Villanueve!
Field Marshall Ney!
And, of course, Bonaparte himself!
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Tom, Gipper is such a crotchety old fart that he had season tickets during the Otto Graham era. He tailgated out of the back of his Model T.
So....are you putting yourself in the bucket of ignorant arseholes along with Ghoolie?
Are you as Stupid as a Steeler fan? "The world didn't exist before the Steelers started winning" The world didn't exist before the Patriots started winning. Both Franchises were the laughing stock of 2 different leagues for 40 years each.....but those years don't count in your ignorant minds...and nothing counts before they started being winners.
Well....that would be great if we could do that. If nothing before the early 70s counted...then we can then conclude that nothing that Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson etc. etc. Nothing of what they did counts. Good...lets completely diminish the Yankees accomplisments all those years.
Same for Basketball. Nothing counts before the merger with the ABA...... Nothing Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, George Mikan, Oscar Robertson,Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Bob Petit....nothing of their careers counts at all.
Same for hockey....not that I know much about hockey...but a few names like Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard, Stan Mikita...nothing they ever did counted.
You guys are the biggest morons of our generation.
So....are you putting yourself in the bucket of ignorant arseholes along with Ghoolie?
Are you as Stupid as a Steeler fan? "The world didn't exist before the Steelers started winning" The world didn't exist before the Patriots started winning. Both Franchises were the laughing stock of 2 different leagues for 40 years each.....but those years don't count in your ignorant minds...and nothing counts before they started being winners.
Well....that would be great if we could do that. If nothing before the early 70s counted...then we can then conclude that nothing that Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson etc. etc. Nothing of what they did counts. Good...lets completely diminish the Yankees accomplisments all those years.
Same for Basketball. Nothing counts before the merger with the ABA...... Nothing Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, George Mikan, Oscar Robertson,Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Bob Petit....nothing of their careers counts at all.
Same for hockey....not that I know much about hockey...but a few names like Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard, Stan Mikita...nothing they ever did counted.
You guys are the biggest morons of our generation.
What did you guys tailgate with back in yonder days?
Hard cider and squirrel stew.
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So....are you putting yourself in the bucket of ignorant arseholes along with Ghoolie?
Are you as Stupid as a Steeler fan? "The world didn't exist before the Steelers started winning" The world didn't exist before the Patriots started winning. Both Franchises were the laughing stock of 2 different leagues for 40 years each.....but those years don't count in your ignorant minds...and nothing counts before they started being winners.
Well....that would be great if we could do that. If nothing before the early 70s counted...then we can then conclude that nothing that Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson etc. etc. Nothing of what they did counts. Good...lets completely diminish the Yankees accomplisments all those years.
Same for Basketball. Nothing counts before the merger with the ABA...... Nothing Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, George Mikan, Oscar Robertson,Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Bob Petit....nothing of their careers counts at all.
Same for hockey....not that I know much about hockey...but a few names like Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard, Stan Mikita...nothing they ever did counted.
You guys are the biggest morons of our generation.
What did you guys tailgate with back in yonder days?
Hard cider and squirrel stew.
What did you guys tailgate with back in yonder days?
Hard cider and squirrel stew.
We roasted stupid humans. Good thing you were not around. You would have been on the menu.
So....as a "Boston" guy.....are you comfortable with the notion that NOTHING that Bill Russell/Havlicek/Cousy/Bobby Orr/Ted Williams ever did counts for anything?
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So....are you putting yourself in the bucket of ignorant arseholes along with Ghoolie?
Are you as Stupid as a Steeler fan? "The world didn't exist before the Steelers started winning" The world didn't exist before the Patriots started winning. Both Franchises were the laughing stock of 2 different leagues for 40 years each.....but those years don't count in your ignorant minds...and nothing counts before they started being winners.
Well....that would be great if we could do that. If nothing before the early 70s counted...then we can then conclude that nothing that Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson etc. etc. Nothing of what they did counts. Good...lets completely diminish the Yankees accomplisments all those years.
Same for Basketball. Nothing counts before the merger with the ABA...... Nothing Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, George Mikan, Oscar Robertson,Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Bob Petit....nothing of their careers counts at all.
Same for hockey....not that I know much about hockey...but a few names like Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard, Stan Mikita...nothing they ever did counted.
You guys are the biggest morons of our generation.
What did you guys tailgate with back in yonder days?
Hard cider and squirrel stew.
What did you guys tailgate with back in yonder days?
Hard cider and squirrel stew.
So cal, who loves squirrel, is a throwback? Who woulda guessed that?
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I honestly think Brady is past his prime. If he is given time, he is still great. But when he is forced to release quickly, he is very average. I think if JAX goes blitzn happy, they can win. I am sick of NE sick of everyone. SIck of us not having a team that is worthy of our honor and support.
Yes....Brady is past his prime.....but he is still one of the best likely 2 QBs in the league.
Yes....Brady is past his prime.....but he is still one of the best likely 2 QBs in the league.
Yes just like other greats like Peyton Manning, Brett Farve even John Elway they just knew how to win.......baby!
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I didn't say they were yours, but honestly, they don't indicate anything of substance. Any team that has a prolific offense is going to have one of the best defenses in the NFL simply because that defense will play less downs, have the opponent in horrible field position, AND because the opposing O will generally be playing catch up, will be at a disadvantage as to the play selection available.
A great offense makes life easy for the D.
Against a great O today, the Minnesota defense looked like pure schidt; average; not much better than the Browns.
OFFENSE wins championships................................Offense makes the defense.
San Diego Chargers when Fouts/Winslow were on the team still couldn't put together a championship due to their defense. They could put up 40 and lose 44-40. Combination of both is best.
San Diego Chargers when Fouts/Winslow were on the team still couldn't put together a championship due to their defense. They could put up 40 and lose 44-40. Combination of both is best.
heh heh heh....ask dan marino also....
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Otto Graham never won an NFL championship. Never. Not one that stands up to the teams of today. I m sure you can dig up some caveman who won The Fred Flintstone Bowl championship 8 times while wearing a Brontosaurus egg on his head. Stone Age championships mean nothing. The modern era of football started with the SB.
& When they rename the Super Bowl the World Bowl or Universe Bowl, all those Championships the Steelers won in the 70s will mean as much as Otto's. You'd have to be damn near 50 to even remember them.
& When they rename the Super Bowl the World Bowl or Universe Bowl, all those Championships the Steelers won in the 70s will mean as much as Otto's. You'd have to be damn near 50 to even remember them.
The NFL will never expand into Europe, and the rest of the world will never expand its interest in the NFL. The reality is that the NFL is shrinking, and Cleveland is a market that is among the least promising and profitable.
The Steelers tradition of winning is far greater than that of the Browns. In fact, the Browns are one of the least successful franchises of all times. Certianly in the Era of the modern times, they may be THE worst.
The Browns won the NFL title in 1964, but that is the only time, the only championship. All that leather helmet BS means noting. Those guys could have been beaten by a good pick up game squad.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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