Cousins would "seriously consider" the Browns
-
I don't know ... as a Redskins fan, I think you guys would be better off going with Alex Smith and drafting someone at either #1 or #4. I like Cousins and want him back, and obviously money isn't an issue with the Browns ... but if your GM thinks any of these QBs in the draft can be the next "top QB" ... get that guy and sit him behind Smith for a year v. going with Cousins, who is very good, but not elite.
Unless you guys think you should go Barkley + Fitzpatrick at 1 & 4. Can't really go wrong either way.
-
I don't know ... as a Redskins fan, I think you guys would be better off going with Alex Smith and drafting someone at either #1 or #4. I like Cousins and want him back, and obviously money isn't an issue with the Browns ... but if your GM thinks any of these QBs in the draft can be the next "top QB" ... get that guy and sit him behind Smith for a year v. going with Cousins, who is very good, but not elite.
Unless you guys think you should go Barkley + Fitzpatrick at 1 & 4. Can't really go wrong either way.
I don't know ... as a Redskins fan, I think you guys would be better off going with Alex Smith and drafting someone at either #1 or #4. I like Cousins and want him back, and obviously money isn't an issue with the Browns ... but if your GM thinks any of these QBs in the draft can be the next "top QB" ... get that guy and sit him behind Smith for a year v. going with Cousins, who is very good, but not elite.
Unless you guys think you should go Barkley + Fitzpatrick at 1 & 4. Can't really go wrong either way.
As of today, I'd sign 2 WRs in FA (not necessarily both top tier, but at least one), then Smith, QB with the #1 (I'd be happy with either Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield), and Fitzpatrick/James with #4.
-
I don't know ... as a Redskins fan, I think you guys would be better off going with Alex Smith and drafting someone at either #1 or #4. I like Cousins and want him back, and obviously money isn't an issue with the Browns ... but if your GM thinks any of these QBs in the draft can be the next "top QB" ... get that guy and sit him behind Smith for a year v. going with Cousins, who is very good, but not elite.
Unless you guys think you should go Barkley + Fitzpatrick at 1 & 4. Can't really go wrong either way.
As of today, I'd sign 2 WRs in FA (not necessarily both top tier, but at least one), then Smith, QB with the #1 (I'd be happy with either Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield), and Fitzpatrick/James with #4.
As of today, I'd sign 2 WRs in FA (not necessarily both top tier, but at least one), then Smith, QB with the #1 (I'd be happy with either Darnold, Rosen or Barkley), and Fitzpatrick/James with #4.
Barkley would be a horrible QB...
-
I don't know ... as a Redskins fan, I think you guys would be better off going with Alex Smith and drafting someone at either #1 or #4. I like Cousins and want him back, and obviously money isn't an issue with the Browns ... but if your GM thinks any of these QBs in the draft can be the next "top QB" ... get that guy and sit him behind Smith for a year v. going with Cousins, who is very good, but not elite.
Unless you guys think you should go Barkley + Fitzpatrick at 1 & 4. Can't really go wrong either way.
I don't know ... as a Redskins fan, I think you guys would be better off going with Alex Smith and drafting someone at either #1 or #4. I like Cousins and want him back, and obviously money isn't an issue with the Browns ... but if your GM thinks any of these QBs in the draft can be the next "top QB" ... get that guy and sit him behind Smith for a year v. going with Cousins, who is very good, but not elite.
Unless you guys think you should go Barkley + Fitzpatrick at 1 & 4. Can't really go wrong either way.
Skipping a chance at taking a top QB in the draft (AGAIN) and taking a RB actually is wrong.
-
Barkley would be a horrible QB...
Well, PoG is winning the battle and is brainwashing us and making us post about Barkley even if we don't want to! Lol.
-
I don’t think Barkley falls to #4 but I don’t think there’s anything wrong going Barkley at #1 and taking a QB at #4. Giants take Darnold and maybe the Jets trade up for Rosen but you still get your choice of Jackson/Allen/Mayfield at #4 in a “worst case” scenario. But with Jackson/Allen/Mayfield all there I could see teams standing pat and not trading up to #3, giving the Browns Rosen.
-
I do subscribe to the camp that stud RBs can be had in R2/3 ... so a QB/FS combo there at 1/4 followed by an RB at 33 is just as logical if not the way to go.
-
I don’t think Barkley falls to #4 but I don’t think there’s anything wrong going Barkley at #1 and taking a QB at #4. Giants take Darnold and maybe the Jets trade up for Rosen but you still get your choice of Jackson/Allen/Mayfield at #4 in a “worst case” scenario. But with Jackson/Allen/Mayfield all there I could see teams standing pat and not trading up to #3, giving the Browns Rosen.
I don’t think Barkley falls to #4 but I don’t think there’s anything wrong going Barkley at #1 and taking a QB at #4. Giants take Darnold and maybe the Jets trade up for Rosen but you still get your choice of Jackson/Allen/Mayfield at #4 in a “worst case” scenario. But with Jackson/Allen/Mayfield all there I could see teams standing pat and not trading up to #3, giving the Browns Rosen.
IMO, your worst case scenario of taking Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen or Baker Mayfield is terrifying. (Specifically Jackson or Allen at #4).
Like this is what gets Dorsey and Co. fired a few years from now terrifying.
-
I do subscribe to the camp that stud RBs can be had in R2/3 ... so a QB/FS combo there at 1/4 followed by an RB at 33 is just as logical if not the way to go.
I do subscribe to the camp that stud RBs can be had in R2/3 ... so a QB/FS combo there at 1/4 followed by an RB at 33 is just as logical if not the way to go.
at #33, add in the mix that if the #2 or #3 LT drops to us we may need to start taking JT's replacement..Tour have ya worked up your last canidate after Orlando Brown worth considering at #33? CB's & Tackle seem like a light draft class
-
I do subscribe to the camp that stud RBs can be had in R2/3 ... so a QB/FS combo there at 1/4 followed by an RB at 33 is just as logical if not the way to go.
at #33, add in the mix that if the #2 or #3 LT drops to us we may need to start taking JT's replacement..Tour have ya worked up your last canidate after Orlando Brown worth considering at #33? CB's & Tackle seem like a light draft class
at #33, add in the mix that if the #2 or #3 LT drops to us we may need to start taking JT's replacement..Tour have ya worked up your last canidate after Orlando Brown worth considering at #33?
The way I see it is you "easily" get 4 starters with 1 - 4 - 33 - 35 ... obviously FA can impact this. But all the picks in the 3rd and 4th round should be seen as depth/contributors at the very least but not necessarily immediate impact guys. QB - FS - RB - OT would be how I'd draw it up. I think you can address CB & WR in free agency for immediate impacts then draft their depth in the 3rd and 4th. And if you somehow managed to add Bell in FA if he gets out of Pittsburgh then even better. I do think having so much young talent and cap space will allow a true BPA approach to the draft.
-
Why would you spend a third of your salary cap on a barely competitive QB? His career record is average. His performance in primetime games sucks. His arm is average. Poor in the redzone. He's all stats with NO results. He gets the Browns to 8-8 maybe. Pass.
-
I don’t think Barkley falls to #4 but I don’t think there’s anything wrong going Barkley at #1 and taking a QB at #4. Giants take Darnold and maybe the Jets trade up for Rosen but you still get your choice of Jackson/Allen/Mayfield at #4 in a “worst case” scenario. But with Jackson/Allen/Mayfield all there I could see teams standing pat and not trading up to #3, giving the Browns Rosen.
I don’t think Barkley falls to #4 but I don’t think there’s anything wrong going Barkley at #1 and taking a QB at #4. Giants take Darnold and maybe the Jets trade up for Rosen but you still get your choice of Jackson/Allen/Mayfield at #4 in a “worst case” scenario. But with Jackson/Allen/Mayfield all there I could see teams standing pat and not trading up to #3, giving the Browns Rosen.
I don't believe you wait till #4 to take your choice of what is left of the QBs, the Browns have to know which QB they want take him at #1 then let the cards fall at #4
-
Why would you spend a third of your salary cap on a barely competitive QB? His career record is average. His performance in primetime games sucks. His arm is average. Poor in the redzone. He's all stats with NO results. He gets the Browns to 8-8 maybe. Pass.
Why would you spend a third of your salary cap on a barely competitive QB? His career record is average. His performance in primetime games sucks. His arm is average. Poor in the redzone. He's all stats with NO results. He gets the Browns to 8-8 maybe. Pass.
So hes a player who can come in and win us 8 games (potentially getting us into the playoffs), that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I can't believe there are so many browns fans on here that are like ," I don't want him, he only wins 8 games a season". Are you guys forgettng it usually takes 3 seasons for us to get 8 wins?
If you don't think he's a top 10-12 QB who isnt going to have us contending for the playoffs, I understand not wanting to pay that money. I don't know what makes you think that but I get it
-
Why would you spend a third of your salary cap on a barely competitive QB? His career record is average. His performance in primetime games sucks. His arm is average. Poor in the redzone. He's all stats with NO results. He gets the Browns to 8-8 maybe. Pass.
So hes a player who can come in and win us 8 games (potentially getting us into the playoffs), that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I can't believe there are so many browns fans on here that are like ," I don't want him, he only wins 8 games a season". Are you guys forgettng it usually takes 3 seasons for us to get 8 wins?
If you don't think he's a top 10-12 QB who isnt going to have us contending for the playoffs, I understand not wanting to pay that money. I don't know what makes you think that but I get it
So hes a player who can come in and win us 8 games (potentially getting us into the playoffs), that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I can't believe there are so many browns fans on here that are like ," I don't want him, he only wins 8 games a season". Are you guys forgettng it usually takes 3 seasons for us to get 8 wins?
If you don't think he's a top 10-12 QB who isnt going to have us contending for the playoffs, I understand not wanting to pay that money. I don't know what makes you think that but I get it
Are you even listening to what several Redskins fans are saying? You've set the bar too low, if 8 wins is your goal. Looks like you're ready to have a parade for that level of mediocrity. For example, 50 miles south of Dayton where Dandy Andy Dalton (with a stellar supporting cast- there's a good comparison) is just barely good enough to make the playoffs, and go one and done. I want better than that.To pay Kirk that kind of money, I want Rodgers, Brady, Rothlisberger good. Reports from Washington- sorry to bust your bubble- say Cousins isn't in that league- though he's probably going to get paid like he is.
-
Redskins fans are stuck. Like you for so long we just wanted stability and a good option. We now have that ... and hes good and made us consistent. We were so bad the past 2 years from the lack of draft picks and this year had a ton of injuries so it’s hard to say whether it’s Cousins or the team. We are now bored with .500 and want “the next step” and whether that includes cousins or not ... no one knows. Cousins very well could be elite with talent around him. He just hasn’t had much to work with in DC.
-
So hes a player who can come in and win us 8 games (potentially getting us into the playoffs), that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I can't believe there are so many browns fans on here that are like ," I don't want him, he only wins 8 games a season". Are you guys forgettng it usually takes 3 seasons for us to get 8 wins?
If you don't think he's a top 10-12 QB who isnt going to have us contending for the playoffs, I understand not wanting to pay that money. I don't know what makes you think that but I get it
Are you even listening to what several Redskins fans are saying? You've set the bar too low, if 8 wins is your goal. Looks like you're ready to have a parade for that level of mediocrity. For example, 50 miles south of Dayton where Dandy Andy Dalton (with a stellar supporting cast- there's a good comparison) is just barely good enough to make the playoffs, and go one and done. I want better than that.To pay Kirk that kind of money, I want Rodgers, Brady, Rothlisberger good. Reports from Washington- sorry to bust your bubble- say Cousins isn't in that league- though he's probably going to get paid like he is.
Are you even listening to what several Redskins fans are saying? You've set the bar too low, if 8 wins is your goal. Looks like you're ready to have a parade for that level of mediocrity. For example, 50 miles south of Dayton where Dandy Andy Dalton (with a stellar supporting cast- there's a good comparison) is just barely good enough to make the playoffs, and go one and done. I want better than that.To pay Kirk that kind of money, I want Rodgers, Brady, Rothlisberger good. Reports from Washington- sorry to bust your bubble- say Cousins isn't in that league- though he's probably going to get paid like he is.
I never said he was in that league, but he is a top 10-12 guy and he can get us to the playoffs.
We're a rebuilding team and the bar is too low? What if our draft pick sucks? Alex Smith isn't going to make this team much better. So we suffer for 3 more years instead of watching a competent offense.
We have talent in this team, and we should get a ton more this off-season. Cousins could make us contenders in the AFCN with in a year or 2. I'm tired of Cleveland being the laughing stock of the NFL. Let's bring in the best talent available and win some games
-
Redskins fans are stuck. Like you for so long we just wanted stability and a good option. We now have that ... and hes good and made us consistent. We were so bad the past 2 years from the lack of draft picks and this year had a ton of injuries so it’s hard to say whether it’s Cousins or the team. We are now bored with .500 and want “the next step” and whether that includes cousins or not ... no one knows. Cousins very well could be elite with talent around him. He just hasn’t had much to work with in DC.
Redskins fans are stuck. Like you for so long we just wanted stability and a good option. We now have that ... and hes good and made us consistent. We were so bad the past 2 years from the lack of draft picks and this year had a ton of injuries so it’s hard to say whether it’s Cousins or the team. We are now bored with .500 and want “the next step” and whether that includes cousins or not ... no one knows. Cousins very well could be elite with talent around him. He just hasn’t had much to work with in DC.
No kidding. There are very few quarterbacks in the league that can rise a substandard team to a playoff team. And a playoff team is usually pretty damn good no matter which quarterback is under Center as long as he's decent. Look at the Eagles the Vikings and the Jaguars.
I don't doubt that Kirk Cousins could be competent it's just that I don't want to skip on a top prospect to get him here.
WSS
-
Redskins fans are stuck. Like you for so long we just wanted stability and a good option. We now have that ... and hes good and made us consistent. We were so bad the past 2 years from the lack of draft picks and this year had a ton of injuries so it’s hard to say whether it’s Cousins or the team. We are now bored with .500 and want “the next step” and whether that includes cousins or not ... no one knows. Cousins very well could be elite with talent around him. He just hasn’t had much to work with in DC.
No kidding. There are very few quarterbacks in the league that can rise a substandard team to a playoff team. And a playoff team is usually pretty damn good no matter which quarterback is under Center as long as he's decent. Look at the Eagles the Vikings and the Jaguars.
I don't doubt that Kirk Cousins could be competent it's just that I don't want to skip on a top prospect to get him here.
WSS
I don't doubt that Kirk Cousins could be competent it's just that I don't want to skip on a top prospect to get him here.
WSS
There’s only so many elite talents. If you think Rosen or Darnold can elevate to be a Top 3-5 QB you just draft them and have them for “cheap” for 5 years. If you’re not sure, Cousins is at least a known commodity to a certain extent and is only 28.
If you put Cousins on the Jags, Vikings or Broncos they all would likely have been SB contenders.
I will say, given how bad the Skins defense has been the last 3 years ... and how awful our offensive weapons were this year ... Cousins needs to get a ton of credit. He certainly didn’t elevate the team to playoff caliber but he was close, and the team was ravaged by injuries and he didn’t have a legit 1 or 2 WR. Like I said, I think he can get a team to the title but he won’t “carry” anyone. He makes a bad team .500 ... and would make a decent team playoff caliber. Just hard to say how high his ceiling will be.
-
Cousins is a goody two-shoes nerd who's too soft to win a big game. Make him the highest paid player? No way. Dude folds under pressure. He doesn't have the "it" factor to justify a massive payday. Nice guys get stepped on. He's a nice guy.
-
Are you even listening to what several Redskins fans are saying? You've set the bar too low, if 8 wins is your goal. Looks like you're ready to have a parade for that level of mediocrity. For example, 50 miles south of Dayton where Dandy Andy Dalton (with a stellar supporting cast- there's a good comparison) is just barely good enough to make the playoffs, and go one and done. I want better than that.To pay Kirk that kind of money, I want Rodgers, Brady, Rothlisberger good. Reports from Washington- sorry to bust your bubble- say Cousins isn't in that league- though he's probably going to get paid like he is.
I never said he was in that league, but he is a top 10-12 guy and he can get us to the playoffs.
We're a rebuilding team and the bar is too low? What if our draft pick sucks? Alex Smith isn't going to make this team much better. So we suffer for 3 more years instead of watching a competent offense.
We have talent in this team, and we should get a ton more this off-season. Cousins could make us contenders in the AFCN with in a year or 2. I'm tired of Cleveland being the laughing stock of the NFL. Let's bring in the best talent available and win some games
I never said he was in that league, but he is a top 10-12 guy and he can get us to the playoffs.
We're a rebuilding team and the bar is too low? What if our draft pick sucks? Alex Smith isn't going to make this team much better. So we suffer for 3 more years instead of watching a competent offense.
We have talent in this team, and we should get a ton more this off-season. Cousins could make us contenders in the AFCN with in a year or 2. I'm tired of Cleveland being the laughing stock of the NFL. Let's bring in the best talent available and win some games
Obviously you weren't listening when I directed a comment in your direction. You want wins- any wins- and screw the long term consequences.
Regarding top 10-12 guys so is Alex Smith. Man- you just want Cousins so bad, you can't even see there's other options out there. Cousins is not significantly better than Smith, and sorry if you're totally in denial about that. Smith can get us to the same place- without the long term commitment.
Two years of Smith- $45 million max. Cousins $95 million guaranteed minimum- for the same level of talent. You just flunked accounting 101.
+++ Apparently you're afraid we're going to mess up another #1 overall QB pick.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login