The Curious Case of Eli Manning
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So much is argued about completion percentages as a main criteria to judge future NFL qb's by.
The fitst pro I looked up for this thread was Eli Manning.
2000 Ole Miss Rebels 52.8
2001 Ole Miss Rebels 63.5
2002 Ole Miss Rebels 58.0
2003 Ole Miss Rebels 62.4
Career 60.8
so, he's a very inaccurate bum, but then he's an accurate star, but then he's a bum, but then he's an accurate star..but that's college.
In the pros:
starting at 2004
48.2
52.8
57.7
56.1
60.3
62.3
62.9
61.0
59.9
2013 57.5*** Odell Beckham Jr gets drafted in 2014, first round, also drafted Weston, OC, second round ***
63.1
62.6
63.0
61.6
Average 59.8So, it seems his numbers fluctuate. What exactly does that mean? He's hopelessly inaccurate? Seems that his percentage changed with the changing cast of characters around him...changing offensive strategies.... etc. Looks like the passing percentages went well above 60 the last four years with the arrival of a top center and Odell Beckham, Jr - WR. Just sayin..... God Bless Ya ! (how did Flugels miss these stats?)
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It seems like you’re trying real goddamn hard to validate your shitty opinion.
No one cares. Josh Allen isn’t good. Just move on.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Remember a lot goes into those numbers, how good is your OL? Running game? WRs? Are you a dink and dunk short passing game or loaded with bombs? Are you always behind and gunning it or just running out the game?
You've got to love numbers!
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It seems like you’re trying real goddamn hard to validate your shitty opinion.
No one cares. Josh Allen isn’t good. Just move on.
It seems like you’re trying real goddamn hard to validate your shitty opinion.
No one cares. Josh Allen isn’t good. Just move on.
isn't about Allen at all. It's about completion percentages of all these qb's in the draft, and what it means.
I'm just rhetorically asking the question.
If you can't comprehend what you read, then have a nice day. If you can't back up your opinion, then STFU.
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It's about Allen, stop. Just, stop.
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It seems like you’re trying real goddamn hard to validate your shitty opinion.
No one cares. Josh Allen isn’t good. Just move on.
isn't about Allen at all. It's about completion percentages of all these qb's in the draft, and what it means.
I'm just rhetorically asking the question.
If you can't comprehend what you read, then have a nice day. If you can't back up your opinion, then STFU.
isn't about Allen at all. It's about completion percentages of all these qb's in the draft, and what it means.
I'm just rhetorically asking the question.
If you can't comprehend what you read, then have a nice day. If you can't back up your opinion, then STFU.
Just stop.
It's bad enough you trying to sell us that the reason you hate Rosen isn't because he ragged on your Orange Messiah... Now you are trying to tell us this isn't you trying to validate your Josh Allen man-crush with this "random" post about completion percentage? Shenanigans.
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it is NOT about Allen. It's about asking the question, presenting it accurately, then watching as a few people divert and complain because they can't defend their position on completion percentages of the qbs in the draft, like tc.
On principle, what explanation defending completion percentages being so high on the criteria bandwagon is there?
The completion percentage is being applied to every qb in this draft. Try to answer the question, and stop bitching, and frantically changing the subject.
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Cal, you are using one of the most polarizing QBs as an example haha. Eli has not been the picture of consistency throughout his career.
Accurate in college doesn’t guarantee success. But inaccuracy tends to never go away when the windows get tighter. There are a few exceptions but they do not represent the vast majority who wash out because inaccuracy plagues them. Browns fans have seen this movie. It sucks.
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That's legit. I can go with that. It's an anomaly that Eli got Beckham, which opened his windows quite a bit, often.
I wish Allen didn't have the accuracy problem, we'll see how it goes. I'm glad he did better that first half,
or we'd have a senior bowl thread on fire. Wentz was incredibly accurate - too bad he wasn't picked.
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The stats seem to be skewed by his early career numbers. Odell may have helped raise his percentage by half a point at the most, but it’s hard to say for sure that’s why.
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it is NOT about Allen. It's about asking the question, presenting it accurately, then watching as a few people divert and complain because they can't defend their position on completion percentages of the qbs in the draft, like tc.
On principle, what explanation defending completion percentages being so high on the criteria bandwagon is there?
The completion percentage is being applied to every qb in this draft. Try to answer the question, and stop bitching, and frantically changing the subject.
it is NOT about Allen. It's about asking the question, presenting it accurately, then watching as a few people divert and complain because they can't defend their position on completion percentages of the qbs in the draft, like tc.
On principle, what explanation defending completion percentages being so high on the criteria bandwagon is there?
The completion percentage is being applied to every qb in this draft. Try to answer the question, and stop bitching, and frantically changing the subject.
Mannings completion % was higher this 3 - 13 season than both seasons when the Giants won the Super Bowl.
The great Johnny Football had a 70% completions rate in college. These guys think that the QB is like your ace pitcher that you can throw out there for 16 games and he alone can bring home the W.
BTW, the Giants were 9 - 7 and 10 - 6 and won the Lombardi. The Browns are not the Giants but with a few good moves and picks 8 - 8 is not out of the question.
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So he went from an average 60.8 in college to lower pct in the NFL. Thank you for posting a case that doesn't help the case of a guy going 56% in college.
So he went from an average 60.8 in college to lower pct in the NFL. Thank you for posting a case that doesn't help the case of a guy going 56% in college.
Brady got better in the NFL and so did Brees.
Favre was a ... 54.5 passer in college https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/brett-favre-1.html Allen is better.
Let the chimps feces throwing begin.
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Cal, you are using one of the most polarizing QBs as an example haha. Eli has not been the picture of consistency throughout his career.
Accurate in college doesn’t guarantee success. But inaccuracy tends to never go away when the windows get tighter. There are a few exceptions but they do not represent the vast majority who wash out because inaccuracy plagues them. Browns fans have seen this movie. It sucks.
Accurate in college doesn’t guarantee success. But inaccuracy tends to never go away when the windows get tighter. There are a few exceptions but they do not represent the vast majority who wash out because inaccuracy plagues them. Browns fans have seen this movie. It sucks.
Exactly what I've been saying all along.
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So he went from an average 60.8 in college to lower pct in the NFL. Thank you for posting a case that doesn't help the case of a guy going 56% in college.
So he went from an average 60.8 in college to lower pct in the NFL. Thank you for posting a case that doesn't help the case of a guy going 56% in college.
you conveniently ignore the years. 4 yrs vs 13 ? yrs. Thank you for cherry picking.
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So he went from an average 60.8 in college to lower pct in the NFL. Thank you for posting a case that doesn't help the case of a guy going 56% in college.
Brady got better in the NFL and so did Brees.
Favre was a ... 54.5 passer in college https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/brett-favre-1.html Allen is better.
Let the chimps feces throwing begin.
Brady got better in the NFL and so did Brees.
Favre was a ... 54.5 passer in college https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/brett-favre-1.html Allen is better.
Let the chimps feces throwing begin.
You are right. Favre's, Brady, and Brees' cases do indeed help Allen's.
But let's comment some things on those cases: It took 3 years to Brees to become the player we know he is, Brady played thanks to Bledsoe getting injured and Favre's resume in Atlanta is, per Wikipedia, 'He only attempted four passes in his career at Atlanta, was intercepted twice, and completed none of them. Favre took one other snap, which resulted in a sack for an eleven-yard loss.'
Moreover, all those three players weren't picked in first round (Brees #32, Favre #33, Brady #199). Neither of them were the first QB picked.
Favre was chosen the 3rd QB in a defensive draft and also had an incredible arm and holds the record for the longest playing streak. He was tough as nails.
You can make a case that a players accuracy can improve in the pros, but either it is in the fewest of cases, or it takes HOFers to achieve that feat. That's why I don't want to draft Allen with either #1 or #4 (and those are the picks where I would accept getting a QB this draft), because there are many more things that can go wrong in that case that if you draft someone more ready. If we were talking about drafting him on second round, I wouldn't mind.
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This is completely different than the Curious Case of The Dog in the Night.
The Dog did nothing in the night....and that was significant.
Here...there is nothing done here either, but is no significance.
(Also...Trivia question: Cal takes the name of this thread from a literary source...and adapts it....name that source)
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This is completely different than the Curious Case of The Dog in the Night.
The Dog did nothing in the night....and that was significant.
Here...there is nothing done here either, but is no significance.
(Also...Trivia question: Cal takes the name of this thread from a literary source...and adapts it....name that source)
This is completely different than the Curious Case of The Dog in the Night.
The Dog did nothing in the night....and that was significant.
Here...there is nothing done here either, but is no significance.
(Also...Trivia question: Cal takes the name of this thread from a literary source...and adapts it....name that source)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. I don't know the writer. Wikipedia says Scott Fitzgerald.
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