Camp Barkley #1 Overall
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I likeee his top mock. Question Tour, Fitzpatrick or Chubb @ #4?
Not there yet, h... but right now I lean Fitz or trade down.
Am still really confused on why Alex would still follow Dorsey to Browns? Money won't talk loud for Alex like Cousins this season, but as Pats & Jimmy G...KC's trade partner will..
Because trade is the route to securing Alex's services.
If he wants to play, he'd have no say...
Rumble, young man, rumble!
Because trade is the route to securing Alex's services.
If he wants to play, he'd have no say...
Rumble, young man, rumble!
rumble or restructure a year to stay a Chiefs back-up
. listening to Andy & Alex from yesterday I'd say he's gone. It will cost a 3rd(he's 34) but KC sits like 22 in 2nd round with no 1st..I'd guess it would properly also cost a swapping team trade in 2nd round to fall to KC's pick at lucky #22🥷.(#54)why trade him in conference? that would be like 7 teams, to Browns, it would be like Santa Reid giving Alex a jail sentence (ha/Ho) if Cousin or Eli goes? but that leaves the other Team in Red..the Alex sweepstakes winner is Arizona Cardinals.. maybe..for January that's my guess..Boooooo! ...(ok Barkley I'll get out of your way)
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Won’t matter if Hue is coaching. They will go 0-16 again
BINGO
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There was some question about Voch Lombardi's comments on Barkley's blocking.
I decided to rewatch the videos and actually listen more closely... I did say videos, because one was a quick look and the other was a fuller draft analysis.
Here, I'll let you listen for yourselves.
This upper one is from last off season.
IMO- Barkley became much better and more consistent as a blocker last season.
Rushing - A++
Receiving A
Returning A
Pass Blocking B+
Passing A- lol, Come on he was like 2 for 2 and a TD or something
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The draft is very hard to predict.
But the Browns are not taking Barkley #1.
Not hard to predict if you are predicting the Browns. They always throw their 1st round picks away.
They won't take Barkley at #1, but they'll take a homosexual Cowboy fan at #1? LMAO@ The Browns.
Barkley is THE pick of the draft. If the Browns are stupid enough to pass om him at #1, they won't get a chance at #4
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The draft is very hard to predict.
But the Browns are not taking Barkley #1.
Not hard to predict if you are predicting the Browns. They always throw their 1st round picks away.
They won't take Barkley at #1, but they'll take a homosexual Cowboy fan at #1? LMAO@ The Browns.
Barkley is THE pick of the draft. If the Browns are stupid enough to pass om him at #1, they won't get a chance at #4
Not hard to predict if you are predicting the Browns. They always throw their 1st round picks away.
They won't take Barkley at #1, but they'll take a homosexual Cowboy fan at #1? LMAO@ The Browns.
Barkley is THE pick of the draft. If the Browns are stupid enough to pass om him at #1, they won't get a chance at #4
that's Ok running backs are dime a dozen. or you missed out on this thread? Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson weren't drafted #1 overall. Damn the Browns really missed out there... Trent Richardson got drafted #3 overall, and blown out knee Ki Jana Carter #1. wow- I'm so not excited to take a guy at a position that hasn't been drafted #1 overall in the past 20 years.
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Not hard to predict if you are predicting the Browns. They always throw their 1st round picks away.
They won't take Barkley at #1, but they'll take a homosexual Cowboy fan at #1? LMAO@ The Browns.
Barkley is THE pick of the draft. If the Browns are stupid enough to pass om him at #1, they won't get a chance at #4
that's Ok running backs are dime a dozen. or you missed out on this thread? Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson weren't drafted #1 overall. Damn the Browns really missed out there... Trent Richardson got drafted #3 overall, and blown out knee Ki Jana Carter #1. wow- I'm so not excited to take a guy at a position that hasn't been drafted #1 overall in the past 20 years.
that's Ok running backs are dime a dozen. or you missed out on this thread? Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson weren't drafted #1 overall. Damn the Browns really missed out there... Trent Richardson got drafted #3 overall, and blown out knee Ki Jana Carter #1. wow- I'm so not excited to take a guy at a position that hasn't been drafted #1 overall in the past 20 years.
You are NEVER crazy about taking pkaymakers. You want to block your way to the fukcing SB. We don't need play makers we have assets.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
that's Ok running backs are dime a dozen. or you missed out on this thread? Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson weren't drafted #1 overall. Damn the Browns really missed out there... Trent Richardson got drafted #3 overall, and blown out knee Ki Jana Carter #1. wow- I'm so not excited to take a guy at a position that hasn't been drafted #1 overall in the past 20 years.
You are NEVER crazy about taking pkaymakers. You want to block your way to the fukcing SB. We don't need play makers we have assets.
You are NEVER crazy about taking pkaymakers. You want to block your way to the fukcing SB. We don't need play makers we have assets.
I love playmakers- especially the biggest ones of all- a franchise QB. So who are the starting running backs for the Eagles and Patriots? Bet you a beer you can't tell me without looking.
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that's Ok running backs are dime a dozen. or you missed out on this thread? Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson weren't drafted #1 overall. Damn the Browns really missed out there... Trent Richardson got drafted #3 overall, and blown out knee Ki Jana Carter #1. wow- I'm so not excited to take a guy at a position that hasn't been drafted #1 overall in the past 20 years.
You are NEVER crazy about taking pkaymakers. You want to block your way to the fukcing SB. We don't need play makers we have assets.
You are NEVER crazy about taking pkaymakers. You want to block your way to the fukcing SB. We don't need play makers we have assets.
He was talking about taking a QB #1 overall. Do you not consider a QB a play maker?
I mean...you have grumbled about the Browns not drafting playmakers...yet in the last several years they have drafted all of the following in the first round:
QBs Quinn, Weeden, Manziel
RB Richardson
WR Coleman
TE Njoku
What you mean to say is that "I applaud the Browns for taking what seemed to be playmakers...yet I acknowledge that the choices they have made for playmakers have been busts".
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So that's the PoG and Ghoolie kiss of death.
That makes Barkley a hard pass anywhere in the 1st then.
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So that's the PoG and Ghoolie kiss of death.
That makes Barkley a hard pass anywhere in the 1st then.
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You are NEVER crazy about taking pkaymakers. You want to block your way to the fukcing SB. We don't need play makers we have assets.
He was talking about taking a QB #1 overall. Do you not consider a QB a play maker?
I mean...you have grumbled about the Browns not drafting playmakers...yet in the last several years they have drafted all of the following in the first round:
QBs Quinn, Weeden, Manziel
RB Richardson
WR Coleman
TE Njoku
What you mean to say is that "I applaud the Browns for taking what seemed to be playmakers...yet I acknowledge that the choices they have made for playmakers have been busts".
He was talking about taking a QB #1 overall. Do you not consider a QB a play maker?
I mean...you have grumbled about the Browns not drafting playmakers...yet in the last several years they have drafted all of the following in the first round:
QBs Quinn, Weeden, Manziel
RB Richardson
WR Coleman
TE Njoku
What you mean to say is that "I applaud the Browns for taking what seemed to be playmakers...yet I acknowledge that the choices they have made for playmakers have been busts".
Dude, NOBODY WANTED QUINN, MANZIEL AND WEEDEN. Don't be a jackoff. THe fact that the Browns took someone high does not mean they took premium playmakers. The fukcking list of people they passed on is the problem.
You are a goddamned moron. You think the Browns get a pass for taking Quinn? Dude, NOBODY was jumping on that turd. The Browns are a laughing stock. COLEMAN? COLEMAN? ROTFLMAO.................. COLEMAN is your example of the Browns going after play makers? How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Seriously?
They take homosexual Garrett at #1, but could have had Bosa, a year earlier, for less? Get the Fukck out of here with your impotent analytical apologies. They Browns draft schidt. Garrett, Coleman, both schidt. Totally wasted draft picks.
The Browns DO NOT PARTICIPATE in drafting the top playmakers. Who TF do you take Coleman over Doctson? What next? " Ooh, I have a chance to take Jennifer Lopez on a date..........but I am going to take Whoopie Goldturd..................... I mean, she is just as popular....................... so yea.............. I choose Whoopie.
THat is your dumb asss fukcing logic, just because the Browns take someone at a certain position does not have any correlation to whether the guy is an impact player or not.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Hey Jackoffs, you didn't like Ben, Petersen, Julio Jones, Goff, , Wentz, and last year Trubisky. We passed on Watt, Bosa, and Doctson.
BUT BUT BUT................... we got a Zumba instructor, and Corey Coleslaw.
If the Browns do not take Barkley at #1, a smarter team will tke him at #2, and the Browns will AGAIN be a laughing stock letting the top player go to another team.
There will be a QB available at 4, and the Browns can package Joe THomas and the #4 to move up and get Mayfield, or whoever they want. Barkley, won't be around.
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Hey Jackoffs, you didn't like Ben, Petersen, Julio Jones, Goff, , Wentz, and last year Trubisky. We passed on Watt, Bosa, and Doctson.
BUT BUT BUT................... we got a Zumba instructor, and Corey Coleslaw.
If the Browns do not take Barkley at #1, a smarter team will tke him at #2, and the Browns will AGAIN be a laughing stock letting the top player go to another team.
There will be a QB available at 4, and the Browns can package Joe THomas and the #4 to move up and get Mayfield, or whoever they want. Barkley, won't be around.
Hey Jackoffs, you didn't like Ben, Petersen, Julio Jones, Goff, , Wentz, and last year Trubisky. We passed on Watt, Bosa, and Doctson.
BUT BUT BUT................... we got a Zumba instructor, and Corey Coleslaw.
If the Browns do not take Barkley at #1, a smarter team will tke him at #2, and the Browns will AGAIN be a laughing stock letting the top player go to another team.
There will be a QB available at 4, and the Browns can package Joe THomas and the #4 to move up and get Mayfield, or whoever they want. Barkley, won't be around.
Don't presume us fans are as ignorant as the Front office has been. I wanted Ben, Wentz, and along with Gipper- Trubisky. Didn't want- or like any of the #22 QB busts. For the record, "it's a sin if we draft Quinn."
Like us fans have any say what the FO is going to do? All I can do is hope Dorsey & Wolfe do a better job of assessing talent than their predesessors.
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The noise from the pulpit is kind of loud, especially coming from a guy that hailed Paxton Shmucking Lynch as the future.
Oh, I already know - "He's an athlete that hasn't gotten his fair shot yet".
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He was talking about taking a QB #1 overall. Do you not consider a QB a play maker?
I mean...you have grumbled about the Browns not drafting playmakers...yet in the last several years they have drafted all of the following in the first round:
QBs Quinn, Weeden, Manziel
RB Richardson
WR Coleman
TE Njoku
What you mean to say is that "I applaud the Browns for taking what seemed to be playmakers...yet I acknowledge that the choices they have made for playmakers have been busts".
Dude, NOBODY WANTED QUINN, MANZIEL AND WEEDEN. Don't be a jackoff. THe fact that the Browns took someone high does not mean they took premium playmakers. The fukcking list of people they passed on is the problem.
You are a goddamned moron. You think the Browns get a pass for taking Quinn? Dude, NOBODY was jumping on that turd. The Browns are a laughing stock. COLEMAN? COLEMAN? ROTFLMAO.................. COLEMAN is your example of the Browns going after play makers? How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Seriously?
They take homosexual Garrett at #1, but could have had Bosa, a year earlier, for less? Get the Fukck out of here with your impotent analytical apologies. They Browns draft schidt. Garrett, Coleman, both schidt. Totally wasted draft picks.
The Browns DO NOT PARTICIPATE in drafting the top playmakers. Who TF do you take Coleman over Doctson? What next? " Ooh, I have a chance to take Jennifer Lopez on a date..........but I am going to take Whoopie Goldturd..................... I mean, she is just as popular....................... so yea.............. I choose Whoopie.
THat is your dumb asss fukcing logic, just because the Browns take someone at a certain position does not have any correlation to whether the guy is an impact player or not.
Dude, NOBODY WANTED QUINN, MANZIEL AND WEEDEN. Don't be a jackoff. THe fact that the Browns took someone high does not mean they took premium playmakers. The fukcking list of people they passed on is the problem.
You are a goddamned moron. You think the Browns get a pass for taking Quinn? Dude, NOBODY was jumping on that turd. The Browns are a laughing stock. COLEMAN? COLEMAN? ROTFLMAO.................. COLEMAN is your example of the Browns going after play makers? How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Seriously?
They take homosexual Garrett at #1, but could have had Bosa, a year earlier, for less? Get the Fukck out of here with your impotent analytical apologies. They Browns draft schidt. Garrett, Coleman, both schidt. Totally wasted draft picks.
The Browns DO NOT PARTICIPATE in drafting the top playmakers. Who TF do you take Coleman over Doctson? What next? " Ooh, I have a chance to take Jennifer Lopez on a date..........but I am going to take Whoopie Goldturd..................... I mean, she is just as popular....................... so yea.............. I choose Whoopie.
THat is your dumb asss fukcing logic, just because the Browns take someone at a certain position does not have any correlation to whether the guy is an impact player or not.
ALL of the guys that the Browns drafted: TR, Weeden, Coleman, Quinn, JMZ etc. ALL of them would have been drafted by someone within likely 5 picks of where the Browns took them.
I realize that you likely pay not one moment of attention to the draft ratings, the Mock Drafts, etc. ...but the fact is EVERY one of the "skill" players the Browns selected were basically unanimously rated to have been taken about precisely where they were taken.
The reason these picks did not turn out is because these players flopped. If they had not flopped for the Browns...they would have flopped for someone else. Its just that the Browns have the unlucky streak of taking these flops. Just because this level of analysis is above your level of comprehension doesn't mean the Browns didn't make the effort. E.g. of why you have no clue: you mention Josh Doctson. You apparently pay no attention to anything: Doctson has basically been a bigger flop than Coleman. He has caught 37 passes in two years. As for nobody wanting somebody...you have been all over Lynch's nutsack....yet he is simply another Quinn, Weeden.JMZ. So, no. You have zero credibility.
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Hey Jackoffs, you didn't like Ben, Petersen, Julio Jones, Goff, , Wentz, and last year Trubisky. We passed on Watt, Bosa, and Doctson.
BUT BUT BUT................... we got a Zumba instructor, and Corey Coleslaw.
If the Browns do not take Barkley at #1, a smarter team will tke him at #2, and the Browns will AGAIN be a laughing stock letting the top player go to another team.
There will be a QB available at 4, and the Browns can package Joe THomas and the #4 to move up and get Mayfield, or whoever they want. Barkley, won't be around.
Don't presume us fans are as ignorant as the Front office has been. I wanted Ben, Wentz, and along with Gipper- Trubisky. Didn't want- or like any of the #22 QB busts. For the record, "it's a sin if we draft Quinn."
Like us fans have any say what the FO is going to do? All I can do is hope Dorsey & Wolfe do a better job of assessing talent than their predesessors.
Don't presume us fans are as ignorant as the Front office has been. I wanted Ben, Wentz, and along with Gipper- Trubisky. Didn't want- or like any of the #22 QB busts. For the record, "it's a sin if we draft Quinn."
Like us fans have any say what the FO is going to do? All I can do is hope Dorsey & Wolfe do a better job of assessing talent than their predesessors.
Yes, I wanted Trubisky...and I wanted Bosa. I didn't pull for Wentz...because I wanted Bosa. So I was not favoring any of those QBs over any other.
As far as going for Ben R and Julio Jones....I don't remember where I stood on them. And that is just his revisionist history claiming that he wanted those guys. I do remember thinking that the year after BR...when we had like Dilfer or Garcia at QB that I thought we needed a QB...and I thought that a kid from Cal should be given a serious look. Of course, he didn't get picked until #24...and then spent 3 years on the bench behind Brett Favre.
And I am not sure who he means when he says Peterson. Patrick? Adrian?
It is ironic though...that the two posters on the exteme end of the spectrum both want the same guy.
But...I don't know about that guy....and for the #4 spot....I would rather see a playmaker......on defense.
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The noise from the pulpit is kind of loud, especially coming from a guy that hailed Paxton Shmucking Lynch as the future.
Oh, I already know - "He's an athlete that hasn't gotten his fair shot yet".
The noise from the pulpit is kind of loud, especially coming from a guy that hailed Paxton Shmucking Lynch as the future.
Oh, I already know - "He's an athlete that hasn't gotten his fair shot yet".
It's not quite time yet, but getting pretty close, with Elway scouting every top QB that's going to be in the draft this year- including asking for and getting Mayfield and Allen for the Senior Bowl. "Can't stay healthy & when he is can't beat out Siemian or our reject Osweiler" Paxton is about done in Denver.
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Dude, NOBODY WANTED QUINN, MANZIEL AND WEEDEN. Don't be a jackoff. THe fact that the Browns took someone high does not mean they took premium playmakers. The fukcking list of people they passed on is the problem.
You are a goddamned moron. You think the Browns get a pass for taking Quinn? Dude, NOBODY was jumping on that turd. The Browns are a laughing stock. COLEMAN? COLEMAN? ROTFLMAO.................. COLEMAN is your example of the Browns going after play makers? How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Seriously?
They take homosexual Garrett at #1, but could have had Bosa, a year earlier, for less? Get the Fukck out of here with your impotent analytical apologies. They Browns draft schidt. Garrett, Coleman, both schidt. Totally wasted draft picks.
The Browns DO NOT PARTICIPATE in drafting the top playmakers. Who TF do you take Coleman over Doctson? What next? " Ooh, I have a chance to take Jennifer Lopez on a date..........but I am going to take Whoopie Goldturd..................... I mean, she is just as popular....................... so yea.............. I choose Whoopie.
THat is your dumb asss fukcing logic, just because the Browns take someone at a certain position does not have any correlation to whether the guy is an impact player or not.
ALL of the guys that the Browns drafted: TR, Weeden, Coleman, Quinn, JMZ etc. ALL of them would have been drafted by someone within likely 5 picks of where the Browns took them.
I realize that you likely pay not one moment of attention to the draft ratings, the Mock Drafts, etc. ...but the fact is EVERY one of the "skill" players the Browns selected were basically unanimously rated to have been taken about precisely where they were taken.
The reason these picks did not turn out is because these players flopped. If they had not flopped for the Browns...they would have flopped for someone else. Its just that the Browns have the unlucky streak of taking these flops. Just because this level of analysis is above your level of comprehension doesn't mean the Browns didn't make the effort. E.g. of why you have no clue: you mention Josh Doctson. You apparently pay no attention to anything: Doctson has basically been a bigger flop than Coleman. He has caught 37 passes in two years. As for nobody wanting somebody...you have been all over Lynch's nutsack....yet he is simply another Quinn, Weeden.JMZ. So, no. You have zero credibility.
The reason these picks did not turn out is because these players flopped. If they had not flopped for the Browns...they would have flopped for someone else. Its just that the Browns have the unlucky streak of taking these flops. Just because this level of analysis is above your level of comprehension doesn't mean the Browns didn't make the effort. E.g. of why you have no clue: you mention Josh Doctson. You apparently pay no attention to anything: Doctson has basically been a bigger flop than Coleman. He has caught 37 passes in two years. As for nobody wanting somebody...you have been all over Lynch's nutsack....yet he is simply another Quinn, Weeden.JMZ. So, no. You have zero credibility.
Exactly Gip Quinn and Weeden got second chances with other teams- and they flopped there too...
Booger talks out of both sides of his mouth- has already claimed Garrett & Coleman are busts, but Lynch "needs more time"
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The noise from the pulpit is kind of loud, especially coming from a guy that hailed Paxton Shmucking Lynch as the future.
Oh, I already know - "He's an athlete that hasn't gotten his fair shot yet".
The noise from the pulpit is kind of loud, especially coming from a guy that hailed Paxton Shmucking Lynch as the future.
Oh, I already know - "He's an athlete that hasn't gotten his fair shot yet".
Similar to Kevin Hogan. Yet we ride Deshone Kizer's bum azz to a perfect 0-16 record. smh
Browns, don't be a bitch and be scared by dogma, own this moment and bring back the run game to Cleveland.
Tretter is okay but I'm not the biggest fan. What do you think of Price in the 2nd to lay the groundwork for the top rushing/receiving duo in the NFL. Barkley and Gordon 2018 Superstars!
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Dude, NOBODY WANTED QUINN, MANZIEL AND WEEDEN. Don't be a jackoff. THe fact that the Browns took someone high does not mean they took premium playmakers. The fukcking list of people they passed on is the problem.
You are a goddamned moron. You think the Browns get a pass for taking Quinn? Dude, NOBODY was jumping on that turd. The Browns are a laughing stock. COLEMAN? COLEMAN? ROTFLMAO.................. COLEMAN is your example of the Browns going after play makers? How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Seriously?
They take homosexual Garrett at #1, but could have had Bosa, a year earlier, for less? Get the Fukck out of here with your impotent analytical apologies. They Browns draft schidt. Garrett, Coleman, both schidt. Totally wasted draft picks.
The Browns DO NOT PARTICIPATE in drafting the top playmakers. Who TF do you take Coleman over Doctson? What next? " Ooh, I have a chance to take Jennifer Lopez on a date..........but I am going to take Whoopie Goldturd..................... I mean, she is just as popular....................... so yea.............. I choose Whoopie.
THat is your dumb asss fukcing logic, just because the Browns take someone at a certain position does not have any correlation to whether the guy is an impact player or not.
ALL of the guys that the Browns drafted: TR, Weeden, Coleman, Quinn, JMZ etc. ALL of them would have been drafted by someone within likely 5 picks of where the Browns took them.
I realize that you likely pay not one moment of attention to the draft ratings, the Mock Drafts, etc. ...but the fact is EVERY one of the "skill" players the Browns selected were basically unanimously rated to have been taken about precisely where they were taken.
The reason these picks did not turn out is because these players flopped. If they had not flopped for the Browns...they would have flopped for someone else. Its just that the Browns have the unlucky streak of taking these flops. Just because this level of analysis is above your level of comprehension doesn't mean the Browns didn't make the effort. E.g. of why you have no clue: you mention Josh Doctson. You apparently pay no attention to anything: Doctson has basically been a bigger flop than Coleman. He has caught 37 passes in two years. As for nobody wanting somebody...you have been all over Lynch's nutsack....yet he is simply another Quinn, Weeden.JMZ. So, no. You have zero credibility.
ALL of the guys that the Browns drafted: TR, Weeden, Coleman, Quinn, JMZ etc. ALL of them would have been drafted by someone within likely 5 picks of where the Browns took them.
I realize that you likely pay not one moment of attention to the draft ratings, the Mock Drafts, etc. ...but the fact is EVERY one of the "skill" players the Browns selected were basically unanimously rated to have been taken about precisely where they were taken.
The reason these picks did not turn out is because these players flopped. If they had not flopped for the Browns...they would have flopped for someone else. Its just that the Browns have the unlucky streak of taking these flops. Just because this level of analysis is above your level of comprehension doesn't mean the Browns didn't make the effort. E.g. of why you have no clue: you mention Josh Doctson. You apparently pay no attention to anything: Doctson has basically been a bigger flop than Coleman. He has caught 37 passes in two years. As for nobody wanting somebody...you have been all over Lynch's nutsack....yet he is simply another Quinn, Weeden.JMZ. So, no. You have zero credibility.
NOBODY was taking Weedone at close to 30 years old with a first round draft pick and probably not with a second either...
We still should have taken Trent and built the team up around Colt. We would have been better off. And the next QB that walked through the door would have been better off, that next QB could have been Derek Carr...
I guess some people just don't have the vison. When I buy this team, we'll build a dynasty better than the Patriots.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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