NFL.com's Pre-Combine grades are out...
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We all get it...you hate Rosen. Drop it. Mark
oh, knock it off. That IS rosen's weaknesses, and warpo sure as heck has a point. Your hero didn't get good reviews in his weaknesses,
and seems overgraded due to popularity in the media. You don't like it, take it up with NFL.COM. I don't like his weaknesses, and they didn't even include all of them. You love him, your problem. It doesn't matter that I have no use for him on my draft list. Allen's weaknesses weren't anything to brag about, either, etc etc for the other qb's. Have a nice day.
You've posted about his weaknesses every single day, multiple times per day. And for what it's worth, I don't love Rosen. If I'm forced to choose one today, I prefer Mayfield. I like him more than boyfriend Allen but I like every QB in this draft more than Allen.
You've posted about his weaknesses every single day, multiple times per day. And for what it's worth, I don't love Rosen. If I'm forced to choose one today, I prefer Mayfield. I like him more than boyfriend Allen but I like every QB in this draft more than Allen.
Not quite true for me Mark. I like Allen better than Lamar Jackson- but not by much...
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You've posted about his weaknesses every single day, multiple times per day. And for what it's worth, I don't love Rosen. If I'm forced to choose one today, I prefer Mayfield. I like him more than boyfriend Allen but I like every QB in this draft more than Allen.
Not quite true for me Mark. I like Allen better than Lamar Jackson- but not by much...
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You've posted about his weaknesses every single day, multiple times per day. Mark
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Nope. I was trying not to repeat myself, so I quit responding to adoring posts and talking about him. He's boring.
I just slipped this morning, because of the grades, and what Warpo correctly observed.
That's all, folks.
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Heard Nelson is one of the best guards to come out of college in years....never seen him play a full game ...dont usually watch Notre Dame
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Thanks. Now please refresh our memories on what the grades mean. And if you have it....how those grades could compare to other draft classes.
If I recall....a certain grade means that the evaluators feel that a guy could be Hall of Fame talent......other grades mean that a guy could be all star talent.....immediate starter.....backup...etc.
I tried to click on what I thought was a link to the grading system...but it did not work.
Now please refresh our memories on what the grades mean.
They just use the Richter Scale.
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Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
So they should take this highest graded player, but Garrett was a horrible pick even though he was the highest graded player?
Makes perfect sense
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Barkley 7.5//Fournette 6.8//Cook 6.2//Mixion 6.0//Kamara 5.9//Hunt 5.5**********Under Barkley, 2 RB's sit at 5.8 & 4 RB's sit at 5.6... man, does Barkley drive a white bronco to The Penn or 6 white horses?
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Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
Ah wait just a minute there cowboy. This thing confirms for you that Barkley is the best with his 7.5 score? OK fine and dandy.
But Garrett had a score last year confirmed in the combine of 7.63. But that was a bad pick?
I think math school is calling. They want their degree back.
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Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
Ah wait just a minute there cowboy. This thing confirms for you that Barkley is the best with his 7.5 score? OK fine and dandy.
But Garrett had a score last year confirmed in the combine of 7.63. But that was a bad pick?
I think math school is calling. They want their degree back.
Ah wait just a minute there cowboy. This thing confirms for you that Barkley is the best with his 7.5 score? OK fine and dandy.
But Garrett had a score last year confirmed in the combine of 7.63. But that was a bad pick?
I think math school is calling. They want their degree back.
Don't confuse the troll with facts. Or better advice...don't even respond to his nonsense. He's an attention whore....ignore it.
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We all get it...you hate Rosen. Drop it. Mark
oh, knock it off. That IS rosen's weaknesses, and warpo sure as heck has a point. Your hero didn't get good reviews in his weaknesses,
and seems overgraded due to popularity in the media. You don't like it, take it up with NFL.COM. I don't like his weaknesses, and they didn't even include all of them. You love him, your problem. It doesn't matter that I have no use for him on my draft list. Allen's weaknesses weren't anything to brag about, either, etc etc for the other qb's. Have a nice day.
and seems overgraded due to popularity in the media.
This is impressive in its stupidity, even for you cal. Well done.
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AH-HA just as I thought even Darnold barely breaks the 7.0 mark in this so-so quarterback class, PLEASE sign some decent offseason FA QB and pick some stud first round players Barkley + __________ . (or two defense? OL + defense? )
Yes I know it's an early report card but just do it right.......baby!
.......edit add, the more I look at this class, the top candidates:
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability (1 barely )
6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter (3 barely)
It would be a crime to blow two top 4 picks on any of them.
GO BROWNS 2019!
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Barkley’s comparison is Barry.Fu-cking. Sanders. They are on acid.
Last year they made Bo Jackson as the comparison for Fournette..
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Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1 #1 no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.
Last year... highest rated player Garrett. So STFU. last year or so your hero Lynch bust-o. 6.17, hurt &sucks.
When we do screw up another draft, get back to me Tom, you aint got a crystal ball.
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Saquon's post combine numbers will put him in the 9.4 range
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AH-HA just as I thought even Darnold barely breaks the 7.0 mark in this so-so quarterback class, PLEASE sign some decent offseason FA QB and pick some stud first round players Barkley + __________ . (or two defense? OL + defense? )
Yes I know it's an early report card but just do it right.......baby!
.......edit add, the more I look at this class, the top candidates:
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability (1 barely )
6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter (3 barely)
It would be a crime to blow two top 4 picks on any of them.
GO BROWNS 2019!
AH-HA just as I thought even Darnold barely breaks the 7.0 mark in this so-so quarterback class, PLEASE sign some decent offseason FA QB and pick some stud first round players Barkley + __________ . (or two defense? OL + defense? )
Yes I know it's an early report card but just do it right.......baby!
.......edit add, the more I look at this class, the top candidates:
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability (1 barely )
6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter (3 barely)
It would be a crime to blow two top 4 picks on any of them.
GO BROWNS 2019!
I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does.
If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE.
I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.
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AH-HA just as I thought even Darnold barely breaks the 7.0 mark in this so-so quarterback class, PLEASE sign some decent offseason FA QB and pick some stud first round players Barkley + __________ . (or two defense? OL + defense? )
Yes I know it's an early report card but just do it right.......baby!
.......edit add, the more I look at this class, the top candidates:
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability (1 barely )
6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter (3 barely)
It would be a crime to blow two top 4 picks on any of them.
GO BROWNS 2019!
I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does.
If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE.
I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.
I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does.
If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE.
I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.
I kind of had reservations all season, the emphasis kept shifting from quarterback to quarterback with no real clear #1, 2 maybe 3 remember when JT Barrett was considered a possible top 3 or 5 QB? I just don't think it's a stellar bunch -but- if the BROWNS don't land a starting quarterback they will be almost forced into spending their #1 or 4 or who knows some kind of a deal to land a QB plus another pick.
Then what a rookie and Kizer running the show.
Still a little early but Darnold might end up in a BROWNS jersey afterall.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Barkley’s comparison is Barry.Fu-cking. Sanders. They are on acid.
Last year they made Bo Jackson as the comparison for Fournette..
Last year they made Bo Jackson as the comparison for Fournette..
Bo Jackson? Seriously?
I really liked Fornette and thought he would be a good pro, but I got to see Bo Jackson live against my Aggies in the Cotton Bowl. I have not seen anyone like that before or since. Fornette has his power and a 5th gear, but Jackson had some serious speed that on a couple of plays made our very fast defense look like they were swimming in molasses. Fornette had a 4.51 40 at the combine. Jackson says he had a 4.13 and refutes he ran 4.12 as others claim. Now that is just plain world class speed.
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I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does.
If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE.
I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.
I kind of had reservations all season, the emphasis kept shifting from quarterback to quarterback with no real clear #1, 2 maybe 3 remember when JT Barrett was considered a possible top 3 or 5 QB? I just don't think it's a stellar bunch -but- if the BROWNS don't land a starting quarterback they will be almost forced into spending their #1 or 4 or who knows some kind of a deal to land a QB plus another pick.
Then what a rookie and Kizer running the show.
Still a little early but Darnold might end up in a BROWNS jersey afterall.
I kind of had reservations all season, the emphasis kept shifting from quarterback to quarterback with no real clear #1, 2 maybe 3 remember when JT Barrett was considered a possible top 3 or 5 QB? I just don't think it's a stellar bunch -but- if the BROWNS don't land a starting quarterback they will be almost forced into spending their #1 or 4 or who knows some kind of a deal to land a QB plus another pick.
Then what a rookie and Kizer running the show.
Still a little early but Darnold might end up in a BROWNS jersey afterall.
J.T. Barrett, in no universe known to man, has ever been considered a top 3 to 5 NFL prospect. That's just silly mjp.
Skipping QB again would be idiotic.
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I kind of had reservations all season, the emphasis kept shifting from quarterback to quarterback with no real clear #1, 2 maybe 3 remember when JT Barrett was considered a possible top 3 or 5 QB? I just don't think it's a stellar bunch -but- if the BROWNS don't land a starting quarterback they will be almost forced into spending their #1 or 4 or who knows some kind of a deal to land a QB plus another pick.
Then what a rookie and Kizer running the show.
Still a little early but Darnold might end up in a BROWNS jersey afterall.
J.T. Barrett, in no universe known to man, has ever been considered a top 3 to 5 NFL prospect. That's just silly mjp.
Skipping QB again would be idiotic.
J.T. Barrett, in no universe known to man, has ever been considered a top 3 to 5 NFL prospect. That's just silly mjp.
Skipping QB again would be idiotic.
I'm talking about during all of the Buckeyes games when the Bucks and moreover JT was setting every BIG TEN record in existence some by HUGE margins including breaking all of the once considered untouchable Drew Brees passing numbers.
Some of it of course was being a starter so long plus he was the captain more than any other Buckeye EVER.
BESIDES I LIKED IT!
........oh and skipping the wasted QB pick at #1 or 4 would only happen if they did NOT sign a starter, not looking too promising now. Looks like the rookie & Kiz show in 2018.
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