NFL.com's Pre-Combine grades are out...

[TexasAg1969]

@ghoolie said:

Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1   #1   no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.

Ah wait just a minute there cowboy. This thing confirms for you that Barkley is the best with his 7.5 score?   OK fine and dandy.

But Garrett had a score last year confirmed in the combine of 7.63.  But that was a bad pick?

I think math school is calling. They want their degree back.

[Mark O]

@texasag1969 said:

Ah wait just a minute there cowboy. This thing confirms for you that Barkley is the best with his 7.5 score?   OK fine and dandy.

But Garrett had a score last year confirmed in the combine of 7.63.  But that was a bad pick?

I think math school is calling. They want their degree back.

Don't confuse the troll with facts.   Or better advice...don't even respond to his nonsense.   He's an attention whore....ignore it.

[Dutch Oven]

@calfoxwc said:

and seems overgraded due to popularity in the media.

This is impressive in its stupidity, even for you cal. Well done.

[mjp28]

AH-HA just as I thought even Darnold barely breaks the 7.0 mark in this so-so quarterback class, PLEASE sign some decent offseason FA QB and pick some stud first round players Barkley + __________ . (or two defense? OL + defense? )

Yes I know it's an early report card but just do it right.......baby!

.......edit add, the more I look at this class, the top candidates:

7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability (1 barely )

6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter (3 barely)

It would be a crime to blow two top 4 picks on any of them.

GO BROWNS 2019!

[LogicIsForSquares]

Barkley’s comparison is Barry.Fu-cking. Sanders. They are on acid.

Last year they made Bo Jackson as the comparison for Fournette..

[hoorta]

@ghoolie said:

Highest rated player...... Barkley...................... #1   #1   no brainer. Save for the Browns. They will indeed FukCK up another draft.

Last year... highest rated player Garrett. So STFU.   last year or so your hero Lynch bust-o. 6.17,  hurt &sucks. 

When we do screw up another draft, get back to me Tom, you aint got a crystal ball. 

[PoeticG]

Saquon's post combine numbers will put him in the 9.4 range

[Nero]

@mjp28 said:

AH-HA just as I thought even Darnold barely breaks the 7.0 mark in this so-so quarterback class, PLEASE sign some decent offseason FA QB and pick some stud first round players Barkley + __________ . (or two defense? OL + defense? )

Yes I know it's an early report card but just do it right.......baby!

.......edit add, the more I look at this class, the top candidates:

7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability (1 barely )

6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter (3 barely)

It would be a crime to blow two top 4 picks on any of them.

GO BROWNS 2019!

I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does. 

If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE. 

I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.

[mjp28]

@nero said:

I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does. 

If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE. 

I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.

I kind of had reservations all season, the emphasis kept shifting from quarterback to quarterback with no real clear #1, 2 maybe 3 remember when JT Barrett was considered a possible top 3 or 5 QB? I just don't think it's a stellar bunch -but- if the BROWNS don't land a starting quarterback they will be almost forced into spending their #1 or 4 or who knows some kind of a deal to land a QB plus another pick.

Then what a rookie and Kizer running the show. 

Still a little early but Darnold might end up in a BROWNS jersey afterall. 

[TexasAg1969]

@logicisforsquares said:

Last year they made Bo Jackson as the comparison for Fournette..

Bo Jackson? Seriously?

I really liked Fornette and thought he would be a good pro, but I got to see Bo Jackson live against my Aggies in the Cotton Bowl. I have not seen anyone like that before or since. Fornette has his power and a 5th gear, but Jackson had some serious speed that on a couple of plays made our very fast defense look like they were swimming in molasses. Fornette had a 4.51 40 at the combine. Jackson says he had a 4.13 and refutes he ran 4.12 as others claim. Now that is just plain world class speed.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=14869826

[Dutch Oven]

@mjp28 said:

I kind of had reservations all season, the emphasis kept shifting from quarterback to quarterback with no real clear #1, 2 maybe 3 remember when JT Barrett was considered a possible top 3 or 5 QB? I just don't think it's a stellar bunch -but- if the BROWNS don't land a starting quarterback they will be almost forced into spending their #1 or 4 or who knows some kind of a deal to land a QB plus another pick.

Then what a rookie and Kizer running the show. 

Still a little early but Darnold might end up in a BROWNS jersey afterall. 

J.T. Barrett, in no universe known to man, has ever been considered a top 3 to 5 NFL prospect. That's just silly mjp.

Skipping QB again would be idiotic.

[mjp28]

@dutch-oven said:

J.T. Barrett, in no universe known to man, has ever been considered a top 3 to 5 NFL prospect. That's just silly mjp.

Skipping QB again would be idiotic.

I'm talking about during all of the Buckeyes games when the Bucks and moreover JT was setting every BIG TEN record in existence some by HUGE margins including breaking all of the once considered untouchable Drew Brees passing numbers.

Some of it of course was being a starter so long plus he was the captain more than any other Buckeye EVER. 

BESIDES I LIKED IT! 

........oh and skipping the wasted QB pick at #1 or 4 would only happen if they did NOT sign a starter, not looking too promising now. Looks like the rookie & Kiz show in 2018. 

[The Gipper]

@hoorta said:

Here ya go...  

GRADE       TITLE

9.00-10    Once-in-lifetime player

8.00-9.00  Perennial All-Pro

7.50-7.99  Future All-Pro

7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl to All-Pro Ability

6.50-6.99 Good NFL Starter with Pro Bowl Potential

6.00-6.49 Chance to become good NFL starter

5.70-5.99 Could become early NFL starter

5.30-5.69 Backup or eventual starter

5.15-5.29  Developmental prospect or special teams potential

5.01-5.14  Back end of the roster

5.00-  50/50 Chance of making the roster

PS Garrett was graded 7.63, Kizer 5.78, Po will be upset Barkley isn't at least 9.0   

At 7.5 though...Barkley does receive the highest grade in this system. But...essentially no on in this draft...per these scores...is anything more than a possible Pro Bowl player.

You can Google X-player nfl grade and get answers 

What was Tom Brady? 

[The Gipper]

@sd_tom said:

So they should take this highest graded player,  but Garrett was a horrible pick even though he was the highest graded player? 

Makes perfect sense 

Per the above, I see that Garrett was rated higher than anyone at all in this draft, right? 

[The Gipper]

@poeticg said:

Saquon's post combine numbers will put him in the 9.4 range

This is a stupid post...but it does bring up one question:

Does this system do a regrade after the combine?

[The Gipper]

@nero said:

I don't agree on that. I repeat: I think the QBs from this draft were so hyped last year, that they didn't live up to the hype. But NOBODY does. 

If they are %100 right on their grades, they would still be way better QBs than any of the ones the Browns had since '99 (maybe Derek Anderson would have a 5 grade?). Say what you want, but not having a major hole in the QB position is HUGE. 

I don't want to upgrade my rushing game from solid to stellar if we don't upgrade first our QB position from very bad to at least acceptable. And make no mistake, this draft is the way to upgrade the QB position, there's no savior coming from the FA or a trade.

How do these QBs compare to last year's  top group of QBs in grades.

I have said all along that I believe it is possible that last year may in fact have been the superior class of QBs.  How do they compare?

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

Bo Jackson? Seriously?

I really liked Fornette and thought he would be a good pro, but I got to see Bo Jackson live against my Aggies in the Cotton Bowl. I have not seen anyone like that before or since. Fornette has his power and a 5th gear, but Jackson had some serious speed that on a couple of plays made our very fast defense look like they were swimming in molasses. Fornette had a 4.51 40 at the combine. Jackson says he had a 4.13 and refutes he ran 4.12 as others claim. Now that is just plain world class speed.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=14869826

You have not seen anyone like Bo Jackson before or since.......but I have.  Before anyway.   Wanna take a guess who I am talking about.  Remember how old I am.

[Nero]

@the-gipper said:

How do these QBs compare to last year's  top group of QBs in grades.

I have said all along that I believe it is possible that last year may in fact have been the superior class of QBs.  How do they compare?

I haven't found it, but I remember that the top ranked was at most 5.9 or something like that.

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

You have not seen anyone like Bo Jackson before or since.......but I have.  Before anyway.   Wanna take a guess who I am talking about.  Remember how old I am.

Bo knows how to play anything and at a high level, best all around athlete I've ever seen. 

Strangly Bo and I had/have the same/similar hip problem his through trama mine through infection the top of the femur.

Avascular necrosis (AVN) of the femoral head is a pathologic process that results from interruption of blood supply to the bone. AVN of the hip is poorly understood, but this process is the final common pathway of traumatic or nontraumatic factors that compromise the already precarious circulation of the femoral head. Femoral head ischemia results in the death of marrow and osteocytes and usually results in the collapse of the necrotic segment.

......That's where our physical comparisons end. 

[The Gipper]

@nero said:

I haven't found it, but I remember that the top ranked was at most 5.9 or something like that.

That is not how I remember it....in fact, I though Trubisky had been like the highest rated coming out since Luck...or something.