Cousins would "seriously consider" the Browns
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Glance at teams with QB need and space to accomodate a $30mm/yr QB...
Team Cap
SpaceEffective Cap
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# Active
Cap SpendingDead
Money49ers $113,574,832 $113,574,832 61 $105,419,029 $15,054,569 Browns $109,653,737 $109,653,737 70 $116,984,421 $10,274,802 Jets $72,446,618 $72,446,618 55 $118,713,011 $2,918,337 Vikings $50,163,643 $49,203,643 49 $140,910,744 $654,816 Bills $29,418,581 $29,418,581 52 $141,045,590 $18,719,288 Broncos $26,773,245 $26,773,245 59 $161,069,049 $365,907 BUF and DNV would have to do a little shuffling, but are well within "striking distance".
Teams that would have to do a lot more work include:
Jaguars $16,517,319 $16,517,319 66 $188,606,617 $644,803 Cardinals $8,714,438 $8,714,438 51 $170,213,859 $673,489 Dolphins $7,487,613 $7,487,613 55 $169,304,860 $276,688 If going to a winner is a strong consideration, then the Vikes, Broncos and Jags would have to be the top contenders.
Glance at teams with QB need and space to accomodate a $30mm/yr QB...
Team Cap
SpaceEffective Cap
Space️
# Active
Cap SpendingDead
Money49ers $113,574,832 $113,574,832 61 $105,419,029 $15,054,569 Browns $109,653,737 $109,653,737 70 $116,984,421 $10,274,802 Jets $72,446,618 $72,446,618 55 $118,713,011 $2,918,337 Vikings $50,163,643 $49,203,643 49 $140,910,744 $654,816 Bills $29,418,581 $29,418,581 52 $141,045,590 $18,719,288 Broncos $26,773,245 $26,773,245 59 $161,069,049 $365,907 BUF and DNV would have to do a little shuffling, but are well within "striking distance".
Teams that would have to do a lot more work include:
Jaguars $16,517,319 $16,517,319 66 $188,606,617 $644,803 Cardinals $8,714,438 $8,714,438 51 $170,213,859 $673,489 Dolphins $7,487,613 $7,487,613 55 $169,304,860 $276,688 If going to a winner is a strong consideration, then the Vikes, Broncos and Jags would have to be the top contenders.49ers
49ers already have their guy. Are Jets really much better if at all than Browns if "winning is the goal? Vikings...yes...but will they prefer to stick with what they know in Keenum/the Twat etc.
Bills have what is supposed to be a good defense...so they could be in their with Broncos....but both, as you say, would have to shuffle cap space.
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As the main guy fighting off the salary cap hawks in favor of Cousins, I think I'm out after the Smith trade. Smith netted a 3rd and a premium young corner. You would have to think the redskins are looking at that and thinking they can atleast get a 1st for Cousins, if not more. I would love to have Cousins but if we have to give up a pick in the top 3 rounds I would much rather look at a free agent like Bridgewater. Worse come to worse we start the rookie or we let Kizer take the lumps next year
As the main guy fighting off the salary cap hawks in favor of Cousins, I think I'm out after the Smith trade. Smith netted a 3rd and a premium young corner. You would have to think the redskins are looking at that and thinking they can atleast get a 1st for Cousins, if not more. I would love to have Cousins but if we have to give up a pick in the top 3 rounds I would much rather look at a free agent like Bridgewater. Worse come to worse we start the rookie or we let Kizer take the lumps next year
Washington would have to sign him or give him the 34 million tag to trade him. So there will be no compensation given up to get Captain Kirk except for the exorbitant amounts of money he will demand, worth it or not
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Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.
Where would I sign up?
Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.
Link? Not finding that news anywhere...
JAX was pretty well committed when Bortles just put his wrist under the knife which fully guaranteed his 5th-year-option, 2018 contract. Well played, Mr. Bortles.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Where would I sign up?
Jags extended Bortles so they are out of the running.
Link? Not finding that news anywhere...
JAX was pretty well committed when Bortles just put his wrist under the knife which fully guaranteed his 5th-year-option, 2018 contract. Well played, Mr. Bortles.
Where would I sign up?
Link? Not finding that news anywhere...
JAX was pretty well committed when Bortles just put his wrist under the knife which fully guaranteed his 5th-year-option, 2018 contract. Well played, Mr. Bortles.
Reportedly. So not official, my bad.
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YAWN.
I believe all 3 of the Vikings qb's are free agents this year maybe we can choose from their left overs ?
Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.
Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?
Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?
NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.
Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.
Meanwhile. You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.
Do you hear players objecting to any other city?
But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.
I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.
YAWN.
Idiot fukcking Browns fans going through more mental masturbation....inventing Browns football moves that have abso-Shmucking-lutely no chance of even being considered.....let alone happening.
Seriously, don't you jackoffs get tired pf dping this same.schidt year after year after year?
Is reality that fukcing hard for you to accept?
NOBODY OF ANY TALENT WANTS TO COME TO SCHIDTHOLE cleveland.
Myels Garrett made goddamned video offering fellatio to Jerry Jones to rescue him. A top rated college qb threatened to stay on college rather than come.to schidt hole-land.
Meanwhile. You jackoffs believe Cleveland is a mover-shaker.......top franchise.
Do you hear players objecting to any other city?
But hey..........go ahead.....pretend that Cleveland is a really.cool place. EVERYONE wants to play on Cleveland. LMAO.
I imagine this is why.the Browns continue to draft.schidt like Garrett and Coleman. Top.guys won't play here.
Money talks. Period.
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It's more than money. There's at least 5 teams who can make Cousins one of the highest paid players in the game, and they have enough cap space. Even if they don't, they can still move crap around, cut veterans (sound familiar?), and generate the necessary room to absorb the massive contract. So while money is a giant factor, it doesn't necessarily give US any advantage. I'll just make up some numbers. Say the Browns offer him $24 million a year for 8 years. That's a big effing contract! Surely Cousins would take it, right?! But wait...The New York Jets and Denver Broncos offer $22 million for 8 years. Well, the Browns offered more money, so surely we'll get the prized QB!! I mean, right? RIGHT?!
No. No. No. No. No.....NO. For example, remember that free safety we threw that giant contract at last year? You know, because we DIDN'T HAVE ONE ON THE EFFING ROSTER. We made, by far, the best offer. So surely he accepted it....NOPE. He went to the Ravens. Which is just awesome. Why on earth would he turn down several million dollars A YEAR? Because we're US. We're the worst team in the history of the entire NFL. Let that sink in for a bit. The worst team in the universe doesn't get the prized free agent QB.
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The rewards for being in one freaking wild card game since 1999 (0-1 vs pizzburg yet) and recently going 1-31 ALMOST 0-32 and 0-16 with miserable detroit.
Put the sign out FREE AGENTS WELCOME , and reasonable rates at the Motel 6 with free breakfast.
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The thing is, it's not like Jacksonville was thought of as much better until this season't turnaround.
It can be done.
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The thing is, it's not like Jacksonville was thought of as much better until this season't turnaround.
It can be done.
The thing is, it's not like Jacksonville was thought of as much better until this season't turnaround.
It can be done.
And a great defense to carry them along, came close to JAX going farther than they did. If you looked at the odds only NE was a real prohibitive favorite in this "parity by design" NFL.....give everyone a shot every 5 years, ah, Cleveland and Detroit must be next?
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It's more than money. There's at least 5 teams who can make Cousins one of the highest paid players in the game, and they have enough cap space. Even if they don't, they can still move crap around, cut veterans (sound familiar?), and generate the necessary room to absorb the massive contract. So while money is a giant factor, it doesn't necessarily give US any advantage. I'll just make up some numbers. Say the Browns offer him $24 million a year for 8 years. That's a big effing contract! Surely Cousins would take it, right?! But wait...The New York Jets and Denver Broncos offer $22 million for 8 years. Well, the Browns offered more money, so surely we'll get the prized QB!! I mean, right? RIGHT?!
No. No. No. No. No.....NO. For example, remember that free safety we threw that giant contract at last year? You know, because we DIDN'T HAVE ONE ON THE EFFING ROSTER. We made, by far, the best offer. So surely he accepted it....NOPE. He went to the Ravens. Which is just awesome. Why on earth would he turn down several million dollars A YEAR? Because we're US. We're the worst team in the history of the entire NFL. Let that sink in for a bit. The worst team in the universe doesn't get the prized free agent QB.
Saw Kurt on NFL Live yesterday. He was in MN "for the Super Bowl"
Pretty much toed the same line about money not being the only factor.
When the host asked about his interest in playing for the Vikes, the predominantly Viking crowd went a little crazy.
Say the Browns offer him $24 million a year for 8 years.
Why the low-ball offer?
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Well... appears we are not expecting to sign Cousins...
Scot McCloughan to work for Browns during 2018 draft
The extreme makeover of the Cleveland Browns' scouting department continued Saturday when former Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan joined the organization as a personnel consultant to assist the team in this year's draft, according to league sources.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I sure wish Cousins would come here but I still think Denver or Arizona will get him....maybe Bradford for one year to hold the fort down? You would think sooner or later he could make it through a season and he is accurate....
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I think this was posted earlier in this thread, but it carries more meaning now....
Scot McCloughan on Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins: ‘I don’t see special’
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now.
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I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now.
I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now.
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I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now.
I wonder if we could get foles. He looks pretty legit right now.
Probably not but I guess we have to see how everything plays out, and in that link:
1. Philadelphia Eagles
Why it could happen: This is all about Wentz's recovery. He tore his ACL in December, roughly nine months before the start of the 2018 season. So, Wentz -- a quarterback who relies on his mobility behind the line of scrimmage -- might not be fully healthy in time for the regular season. Just because Adrian Peterson did it doesn't mean Wentz will be able to.
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I think this was posted earlier in this thread, but it carries more meaning now....
Scot McCloughan on Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins: ‘I don’t see special’
I think this was posted earlier in this thread, but it carries more meaning now....
Scot McCloughan on Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins: ‘I don’t see special’
That headline isn’t indicative of what McCloughan said at all.
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Nobody saw "special" when Nick Foles walks into the room... but dude just won the Superbowl against Tom Shmucking Brady!
Maybe QB isn't the end all be all that many on this board want to try and make it out to be.
Wentz is sooo good. The Eagles don't win the Superbowl if Wentz doesn't get injured, period.
It's all about BELIEF and working together as one, trusting each other and fighting for your brothers.
There is no reason that next season it can't be us.
"It's our turn" is the mentality it is going to take to win.
Saying we NEED 2 or 3 more years of being competitive and slow progress is NEVER GOING TO WORK- EVER.
Mentality has to be "NOW OR NEVER"
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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