Hall of Fame Finalists
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Interesting that you have at least two of those four who had off the field issues. I thought that according to some here, it is impossible to be a good NFL player with that going on.
I always thought Jerry Kramer was the key to their whole offense in running that OL on pulling guard sweeps. Should have been first in IMO.
And how come the King of Stickum, Lester the Molester Hayes, is not yet in the HOF?
Maybe because once he was prohibited from using the stickum.....he wasn't very good. I don't know if it was the fact that stickum made him good....or if it was a psychological crutch for him where he lost it when that crutch was taken away.
Maybe because once he was prohibited from using the stickum.....he wasn't very good. I don't know if it was the fact that stickum made him good....or if it was a psychological crutch for him where he lost it when that crutch was taken away.
Purely psychological. He actually was a very good player, but he had that stuff gobbed even on his socks so he could get more during a game. Take away the crutch and he lost confidence. Funny that the gloves they use now are just about as effective as stickum was then, except of course for the Browns.
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Gloves only help if you catch with your hands.... whereas stickum helped anywhere it was.
Freddy Bilitnikoff(?) loved him some stickum, too.
Still trying to wrap my head around Lester Hayes... the 2nd best CB in Raider history behind the very great HoFer, Mark Haynes... not being very good....
Nope...
Can't do it...
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The Vote for the Hall of Fame is scheduled for tomorrow.
Of all the candidates....only Everson Walls has a connection with the Browns. He played here the last 2 years of his career...1992/93.
Should we be pulling for him?
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Ray Lewis LBTerrell Owens WRRandy Moss WR\Allan Faneca OL*****************************************
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Steve Hutchinson OL
Brian Urlacher LB
Tony Boselli OL
Isaac Bruce WR
Egerrin James RB
John Lynch DB
*** YEP! ***
Brian Dawkins DB
Joe Jacoby OL
Kevin Mawae Ol
Ty Law DB
Everson Walls DB
Jerry Kramer
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I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?
I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?
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Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
In:
- Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
- Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
- Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
- Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.
Honorable mentions...
- Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
- Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.
From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...
- Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
- Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.
From the Contributor List:
- Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...
In:
- Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
- Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
- Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
- Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.
Honorable mentions...
- Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
- Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.
From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...
- Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
- Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.
From the Contributor List:
- Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...
Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him... Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure.
I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?
Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction.
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In:
- Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
- Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
- Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
- Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.
Honorable mentions...
- Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
- Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.
From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...
- Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
- Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.
From the Contributor List:
- Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...
Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him... Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure.
I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?
Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction.
Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him... Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure.
Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction.
These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!
EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!
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Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him... Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure.
Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction.
These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!
EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!
These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!
EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!
Hardest hitter ever? Certainly in the conversation. "Every time he hit you he tried to put you in the cemetery, not the hospital."
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I still can't believe Don Coryell isn't in the HoF and now not even a finalist
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In:
- Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
- Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
- Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
- Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.
Honorable mentions...
- Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
- Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.
From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...
- Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
- Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.
From the Contributor List:
- Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...
Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him... Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure.
I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?
Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction.
Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games.
These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was....
Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.
How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?
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Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...
Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...
He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.
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Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...
He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.
He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.
ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Not sure if they were related. Brazile was a beast in the late 70's and early 80's. Type of outside guy that could play in a 4-3 or 3-4 strongside. He could blitz, cover, and hit like a tank.
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He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.
ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..
ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..
The guy that most people mixed him up with was Bobo Brazil.
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Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games.
These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was....
Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.
How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?
Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.
How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?
30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus.
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Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.
How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?
30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus.
30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus.
There'll never be another Butkus.. Nitshcke and Huff are about the closest...Bounaconti Was pretty stallwart , too...
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