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    Ray Lewis LB

    Terrell Owens WR

    Randy Moss WR\

    Allan Faneca OL

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    *** Maybe ***

    Steve Hutchinson OL

    Brian Urlacher LB

    Tony Boselli OL

    Isaac Bruce WR

    Egerrin James RB

    John Lynch DB

    *** YEP! ***

    Brian Dawkins DB

    Joe Jacoby OL

    Kevin Mawae Ol

    Ty Law DB

    Everson Walls DB

    Jerry Kramer

  • I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

    @wargograw said:

    I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

  • Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...

  • In:

    • Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
    • Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
    • Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
    • Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.

    Honorable mentions...

    • Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
    • Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.

    From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...

    • Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
    • Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.

    From the Contributor List:

    • Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...

    @tour2ma said:

    In:

    • Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
    • Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
    • Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
    • Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.

    Honorable mentions...

    • Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
    • Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.

    From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...

    • Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
    • Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.

    From the Contributor List:

    • Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

    @wargograw said:

    I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

    Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    In:

    • Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
    • Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
    • Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
    • Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.

    Honorable mentions...

    • Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
    • Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.

    From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...

    • Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
    • Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.

    From the Contributor List:

    • Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

    @wargograw said:

    I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

    Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

    @hoorta said:

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

    Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

    These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember  the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!

    EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!

  • @hoorta said:

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

    Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

    These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember  the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!

    EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!

    @nickers said:

    These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember  the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!

    EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!

    Hardest hitter ever? Certainly in the conversation. "Every time he hit you he tried to put you in the cemetery, not the hospital."

  • I still can't believe Don Coryell isn't in the HoF and now not even a finalist 

  • @tour2ma said:

    In:

    • Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
    • Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
    • Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
    • Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.

    Honorable mentions...

    • Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
    • Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.

    From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...

    • Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
    • Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.

    From the Contributor List:

    • Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

    @wargograw said:

    I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

    Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

    @hoorta said:

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games.

    @nickers said:

    These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was....

    Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.

    How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?

  • Butkus, Nitchke and others were great old(er) stars back in the day but R.Lewis was pretty good....and on a great D, remember that too.

    So hard to compare generations but interesting chit-chat. 

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  • I would have taken Hutchinson over Urlacher, otherwise good class. Surprised Kramer never made it in as a senior nominee before.

    Z

  • Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...

    @nickers said:

    Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...

    He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.

  • @nickers said:

    Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...

    He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.

    @the-gipper said:

    He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.

    ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..

  • Not sure if they were related. Brazile was a beast in the late 70's and early 80's. Type of outside guy that could play in a 4-3 or 3-4 strongside. He could blitz, cover, and hit like a tank.

  • @the-gipper said:

    He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.

    ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..

    @nickers said:

    ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..

    The guy that most people mixed him up with was Bobo Brazil.

  • @hoorta said:

    Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games.

    @nickers said:

    These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was....

    Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.

    How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?

    @tour2ma said:

    Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.

    How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?

    30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.

    How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?

    30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus. 

    @hoorta said:

    30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus. 

    There'll never be another Butkus.. Nitshcke and Huff are about the closest...Bounaconti Was pretty stallwart , too...

  • @hoorta said:

    30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus. 

    There'll never be another Butkus.. Nitshcke and Huff are about the closest...Bounaconti Was pretty stallwart , too...

    @nickers said:

    There'll never be another Butkus.. Nitshcke and Huff are about the closest...Bounaconti Was pretty stallwart , too...

    I should have added- Butkus was the Jim Brown at his position....   

  • Bill Brasky.

  • Butkus is hard to beat. Nitshcke, Lanier, Carson, Lambert, Nobis, Seau and Ray Ray are all tough along with a few others....but Butkus before his knees gave out was a destroyer. Only player that made veteran offensive players piss their pants looking over the line of scrimmage.