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  • Joe has played with 18 different QB's since drafted in 2007..JT has heard draft,develope, bla,bla at QB going into his last year on Browns contract..Dorsey is stuck deciding on a  buy-able 1-2 year bridge QB. Verses Alex & Cousins wanting 3-4 year commitment..Can't blame JT wanting to stay at home in Cleveland if given a real Chance to Win..   

    @gumby73 said:

    Joe has played with 18 different QB's since drafted in 2007..JT has heard draft,develope, bla,bla at QB going into his last year on Browns contract..Dorsey is stuck deciding on a  buy-able 1-2 year bridge QB. Verses Alex & Cousins wanting 3-4 year commitment..Can't blame JT wanting to stay at home in Cleveland if given a real Chance to Win..   

    So....if they sign Josh McCown as the Bridge QB....then Joe would not have to add to the list of QBs he has blocked for. 

    (Or, we could resign current FAs like Derek Anderson, Brandon Weeden, RGIII....etc. etc....the yabos that he has already blocked for that are now FAs...JFF.

  • What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

  • What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

    @louisville-slugger said:

    What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

    Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.

  • What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

    @louisville-slugger said:

    What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

    You could not say he was not brave....took more hits than a rock drummers snare drum

  • So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

    Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.

    @sd_tom said:

    Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.

    Precisely.

  • So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

    @louisville-slugger said:

    So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

    Josh Managed games better than anyone else we have had.

    Something to remember:   a big part of the problem and why Josh could not win games here two years ago:    Hue Jackson was his coach/OC.  In his time with the Jets he proved he could win with a modicum of an NFL caliber coach. 

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter. 

    Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.

    @sd_tom said:

    Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.

    You're Shmucking tripping on something.  

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

    Josh Managed games better than anyone else we have had.

    Something to remember:   a big part of the problem and why Josh could not win games here two years ago:    Hue Jackson was his coach/OC.  In his time with the Jets he proved he could win with a modicum of an NFL caliber coach. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Josh Managed games better than anyone else we have had.

    Something to remember:   a big part of the problem and why Josh could not win games here two years ago:    Hue Jackson was his coach/OC.  In his time with the Jets he proved he could win with a modicum of an NFL caliber coach. 

    That and getting helicoptered into next month in that goalline collision. 

    🙂

  • @sd_tom said:

    Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.

    You're Shmucking tripping on something.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You're Shmucking tripping on something.  

    I'm tripping on my giant cack every time I take a leak.

  • You have a cack?  What the Shmuck is a cack?  A c u n t?

  • So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

    @louisville-slugger said:

    So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

    Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.

    Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger. 

  • AxeA Axe

    I think Joe has more than earned his say.

    @axe said:

    I think Joe has more than earned his say.

    Absolutely.

    As far as a talking head on TV have you ever watched him on those fishing shows? 

  • Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!

  • Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!

    @nickers said:

    Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!

    Save a LOT of money with little or no drop off in talent/production...SIGN AJ!!!  (just one old man's opinion)

    Mike

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.

    Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.

    Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.

    Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger. 

    I get that my opinion of Lamar isn't popular but to say McCown was anything but trash is ridiculous. McCown has been backup quality at best his entire career

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.

    Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger. 

    I get that my opinion of Lamar isn't popular but to say McCown was anything but trash is ridiculous. McCown has been backup quality at best his entire career

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I get that my opinion of Lamar isn't popular but to say McCown was anything but trash is ridiculous. McCown has been backup quality at best his entire career

    In 2015, he threw for over 2100 yards, with 12 TDs and 4 Ints starting about half the season. Had a 93.3 QB rating.

    He battled injuries the next season, throwing for 6 TDS and 6 Ints, with a mediocre 73ish QB rating.

    Trash? That's just silly. 

  • Give Joe what he wants.  It's what's best for the Browns!!!

  • I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner

  • I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner

    Refresh my memory, but were you the person who was arguing with me that Alex Smith is garbage? (I honestly don't remember who I had that debate with...)