Joe Covets Kirk .....
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What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter.
What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter.
You could not say he was not brave....took more hits than a rock drummers snare drum
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So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
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What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter.
Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.
Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.
Precisely.
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So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
Josh Managed games better than anyone else we have had.
Something to remember: a big part of the problem and why Josh could not win games here two years ago: Hue Jackson was his coach/OC. In his time with the Jets he proved he could win with a modicum of an NFL caliber coach.
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What's up with people wanting Josh McCown? He was just on our team, playing under Hue Jackson, and he was awful. Sure he played ok for the jets but that must have been a system thing because he has played for a long time and he has shown he's not a starter.
Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.
Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.
You're Shmucking tripping on something.
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So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
Josh Managed games better than anyone else we have had.
Something to remember: a big part of the problem and why Josh could not win games here two years ago: Hue Jackson was his coach/OC. In his time with the Jets he proved he could win with a modicum of an NFL caliber coach.
Josh Managed games better than anyone else we have had.
Something to remember: a big part of the problem and why Josh could not win games here two years ago: Hue Jackson was his coach/OC. In his time with the Jets he proved he could win with a modicum of an NFL caliber coach.
That and getting helicoptered into next month in that goalline collision.
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Because he's an excellent mentor for young talent, and he's a proven veteran to fill in whenever needed. it's not about him being the best QB available, it's about being affordable and able to get the new guys up to speed quickly. Kizer would'be been much better having Josh there to start the first several games.
You're Shmucking tripping on something.
You're Shmucking tripping on something.
I'm tripping on my giant cack every time I take a leak.
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You have a cack? What the Shmuck is a cack? A c u n t?
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So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.
Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger.
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Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
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Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
Save a LOT of money with little or no drop off in talent/production...SIGN AJ!!! (just one old man's opinion)
Mike
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So it doesn't matter that he sucks, because he takes a beating? That doesn't compute with me. I want a guy that can atleast manage a game. Pay me 8 million a season and I'll get my head kicked in a handful of games a season.
Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.
Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger.
Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.
Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger.
I get that my opinion of Lamar isn't popular but to say McCown was anything but trash is ridiculous. McCown has been backup quality at best his entire career
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Josh McCown sucked when he was here and Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft.
Your QB analysis is, interesting, to say the least Slugger.
I get that my opinion of Lamar isn't popular but to say McCown was anything but trash is ridiculous. McCown has been backup quality at best his entire career
I get that my opinion of Lamar isn't popular but to say McCown was anything but trash is ridiculous. McCown has been backup quality at best his entire career
In 2015, he threw for over 2100 yards, with 12 TDs and 4 Ints starting about half the season. Had a 93.3 QB rating.
He battled injuries the next season, throwing for 6 TDS and 6 Ints, with a mediocre 73ish QB rating.
Trash? That's just silly.
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I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
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I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
Refresh my memory, but were you the person who was arguing with me that Alex Smith is garbage? (I honestly don't remember who I had that debate with...)
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Jets proved what Browns could not give Josh in just 1 season. Better team coaching, team disapline, with better receiver core & a defense that won time of possession.. QB play is a big part but other phases of game matter..
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Save a LOT of money with little or no drop off in talent/production...SIGN AJ!!! (just one old man's opinion)
Mike
I'm all for exploring possibilities with AJ.. He piques my interest.. Based on the limited film on him I have seen.. He looks impressive... And deserves a shot.. IMHO.
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Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
IMO Cousins is better than any of the top QBs in this draft will ever be. Plus I'm not willing to wait a couple of seasons for a QB drafted this year to be ready to lead the Browns offense. I want wins, and I want them NOW.
Acquiring Cousins adds a legitimate NFL QB to the Browns' roster - something that they haven't enjoyed in recent memory. Cousins would be their QB for at least five years, lending stability to the most important position. Finally, grabbing him before the draft provides incredible flexibility to the Browns' draft strategy.
I want to see the Browns relevant again. I don't care what it costs - it's not my money. The money is there to be SPENT to improve the team, not saved for a rainy day.
Give Joe what he wants. Get Cousins at any cost.
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