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  • @nickers said:

    Running backs dont win super bowls.. QB's and stoudt defenses win championships.. Running backs are a dime a dozen fruit cake.

    Why would the Colts pick a QB @ 1 when it would cause a $hitstorm? Luck may as well pack up and leave right after the draft because drafting QB there would be nothing but a controversy and place more pressure than whats already on him. After a loss or ill timed INT and everyone would be calling for the new QB in town just like you guys do.

    Also, Luck are being paid big money and youre going to add another QB who will make top 5 rookie money.

    The Giants were 29th in rushing last year and the Colts were 24th. Both teams would take Barkley and say thank you Cleveland. The Colts had Al Gore who they will not resign and he will be 35 this May. The Colts are taking Barkley if the Browns dont.

    There is not 1 QB in this draft who is head and shoulders above the rest.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Why would the Colts pick a QB @ 1 when it would cause a $hitstorm? Luck may as well pack up and leave right after the draft because drafting QB there would be nothing but a controversy and place more pressure than whats already on him. After a loss or ill timed INT and everyone would be calling for the new QB in town just like you guys do.

    Also, Luck are being paid big money and youre going to add another QB who will make top 5 rookie money.

    The Giants were 29th in rushing last year and the Colts were 24th. Both teams would take Barkley and say thank you Cleveland. The Colts had Al Gore who they will not resign and he will be 35 this May. The Colts are taking Barkley if the Browns dont.

    There is not 1 QB in this draft who is head and shoulders above the rest.

    Flaw in that thinking- report at the Combine, Giants committed to Eli, will consider a trade down. Assuming the Browns draft their QB @ #1, the Broncos and Jets (if either don't land Cousins) KNOW #2 and #3 are available for a QB. Moving up from #5 or  #6 a few spots won't be cost prohibitive, if they see "the guy" they gotta have there. Entirely possible QBs could come off the board with the first three picks, with New York and the Colts trading down. 

    Regarding the Colts, their OL is a mess, I'd think getting a bodyguard to keep Luck in one piece is a higher priority than a running back. 

  • Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

  • Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    That's the way I see it Cal. For the Giants- Saquon or QBOTF?  Nutso IMHO to think Eli + Saquon + OBJ = deep playoff run. PS Combine chatter is OBJ wants starting QB money, more than Antonio Brown's $17 million a year. 

    Colts? Trade down with Denver or the Jets = pick up an extra second rounder (at least), draft McGlinchey or Brown.  

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    What has Foles done outside of Philly? He was mediocre with the Rams and Chiefs. Paying a high price for him is buying high on fool’s gold.

    Doubtful the Eagles would trade Foles anyway, until they're sure Wentz is 100% or close to it. That won't be until after the draft.

    @hoorta said:

    Doubtful the Eagles would trade Foles anyway, until they're sure Wentz is 100% or close to it. That won't be until after the draft.

    It may not be until December.   Foles is going nowhere.

  • Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    If Rudolph drops to round 2...he could be their guy then....or one of those others that you have been talking about.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    That's the way I see it Cal. For the Giants- Saquon or QBOTF?  Nutso IMHO to think Eli + Saquon + OBJ = deep playoff run. PS Combine chatter is OBJ wants starting QB money, more than Antonio Brown's $17 million a year. 

    Colts? Trade down with Denver or the Jets = pick up an extra second rounder (at least), draft McGlinchey or Brown.  

    @hoorta said:

    That's the way I see it Cal. For the Giants- Saquon or QBOTF?  Nutso IMHO to think Eli + Saquon + OBJ = deep playoff run. PS Combine chatter is OBJ wants starting QB money, more than Antonio Brown's $17 million a year. 

    Colts? Trade down with Denver or the Jets = pick up an extra second rounder (at least), draft McGlinchey or Pace.  

    Pace?  as in Orlando Pace?

  • @hoorta said:

    That's the way I see it Cal. For the Giants- Saquon or QBOTF?  Nutso IMHO to think Eli + Saquon + OBJ = deep playoff run. PS Combine chatter is OBJ wants starting QB money, more than Antonio Brown's $17 million a year. 

    Colts? Trade down with Denver or the Jets = pick up an extra second rounder (at least), draft McGlinchey or Pace.  

    Pace?  as in Orlando Pace?

    @the-gipper said:

    Pace?  as in Orlando Pace?

    My bad Gipper, I meant Orlando Brown  Yup the guy who played for the Browns son.  🙂 I fixed my previous post.  😕  

    Rated one of the top two OTs..   

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/orlando-brown?id=2559896

  • @the-gipper said:

    Pace?  as in Orlando Pace?

    My bad Gipper, I meant Orlando Brown  Yup the guy who played for the Browns son.  🙂 I fixed my previous post.  😕  

    Rated one of the top two OTs..   

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/orlando-brown?id=2559896

    @hoorta said:

    My bad Gipper, I meant Orlando Brown  Yup the guy who played for the Browns son.  🙂 I fixed my previous post.  😕  

    Rated one of the top two OTs..   

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/orlando-brown?id=2559896

    But could he fall to us at the top of round 2?

  • Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    Brady is 41

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Why would the Colts pick a QB @ 1 when it would cause a $hitstorm? Luck may as well pack up and leave right after the draft because drafting QB there would be nothing but a controversy and place more pressure than whats already on him. After a loss or ill timed INT and everyone would be calling for the new QB in town just like you guys do.

    Also, Luck are being paid big money and youre going to add another QB who will make top 5 rookie money.

    The Giants were 29th in rushing last year and the Colts were 24th. Both teams would take Barkley and say thank you Cleveland. The Colts had Al Gore who they will not resign and he will be 35 this May. The Colts are taking Barkley if the Browns dont.

    There is not 1 QB in this draft who is head and shoulders above the rest.

    Flaw in that thinking- report at the Combine, Giants committed to Eli, will consider a trade down. Assuming the Browns draft their QB @ #1, the Broncos and Jets (if either don't land Cousins) KNOW #2 and #3 are available for a QB. Moving up from #5 or  #6 a few spots won't be cost prohibitive, if they see "the guy" they gotta have there. Entirely possible QBs could come off the board with the first three picks, with New York and the Colts trading down. 

    Regarding the Colts, their OL is a mess, I'd think getting a bodyguard to keep Luck in one piece is a higher priority than a running back. 

    @hoorta said:

    Flaw in that thinking- report at the Combine, Giants committed to Eli, will consider a trade down. Assuming the Browns draft their QB @ #1, the Broncos and Jets (if either don't land Cousins) KNOW #2 and #3 are available for a QB. Moving up from #5 or  #6 a few spots won't be cost prohibitive, if they see "the guy" they gotta have there. Entirely possible QBs could come off the board with the first three picks, with New York and the Colts trading down. 

    Regarding the Colts, their OL is a mess, I'd think getting a bodyguard to keep Luck in one piece is a higher priority than a running back. 

    Makes no sense.

    The Giants are a win now franchise and need all kinds of help. Beckam will evidently not be in camp.They are just about guaranteed 2 starters staying put and not trading down. 

  • what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

  • sydS syd

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    @syd said:

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    I think it is just a never say never about anything situation.   If someone came knocking hard for any of the Browns picks...it behooves them to listen...even if they ultimately say no:

  • sydS syd

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    @syd said:

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    Brady is 41

    @boo-fagley said:

    Brady is 41

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    @boo-fagley said:

    Makes no sense.

    The Giants are a win now franchise and need all kinds of help. Beckam will evidently not be in camp.They are just about guaranteed 2 starters staying put and not trading down. 

    As I was saying 🙂 Trade down out of #2 to #5 or #6, and get three starters for the price of two.  Barkley + their second round pick isn't turning them into a "win now" team. 9-7 at best and eke into the playoffs if it all goes perfect? OK. Super Bowl contender? LOL!!!  

    PS- take a look at the Giants 2018 opponents and tell me you see a winning record playing the Saints, Jags, Eagles twice, Falcons and Panthers. Split with the Cowboys and Redskins- that's 8 losses right there. 

  • @syd said:

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think it is just a never say never about anything situation.   If someone came knocking hard for any of the Browns picks...it behooves them to listen...even if they ultimately say no:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Brady is 41

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    @boo-fagley said:

    Makes no sense.

    The Giants are a win now franchise and need all kinds of help. Beckam will evidently not be in camp.They are just about guaranteed 2 starters staying put and not trading down. 

    As I was saying 🙂 Trade down out of #2 to #5 or #6, and get three starters for the price of two.  Barkley + their second round pick isn't turning them into a "win now" team. 9-7 at best and eke into the playoffs if it all goes perfect? OK. Super Bowl contender? LOL!!!  

    PS- take a look at the Giants 2018 opponents and tell me you see a winning record playing the Saints, Jags, Eagles twice, Falcons and Panthers. Split with the Cowboys and Redskins- that's 8 losses right there. 

    @hoorta said:

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

  • @hoorta said:

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

    @lionofbuddha said:

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

    just got a new cook book called How Not To Die and there are some damn good plant based recipes in there so as of now I'm cooking 2-3 times a week outta that book

    edit this is a edit I have also lost a few pounds since using that cook book

  • sydS syd

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think it is just a never say never about anything situation.   If someone came knocking hard for any of the Browns picks...it behooves them to listen...even if they ultimately say no:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

    @syd said:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

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  • @syd said:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

    ya it doe's make a Shmucking difference for a young possible franchise QB coming into the league for their psyche why in the Shmuck would you even want to take a goddamn chance on anything going wrong for the face of the franchise you tell that motherShmucker all along he was their guy (even if it's not true) so you do not Shmuck with their head 

    but for you it's all about the money bet you were a big manziel fan when we drafted him