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  • @the-gipper said:

    Pace?  as in Orlando Pace?

    My bad Gipper, I meant Orlando Brown  Yup the guy who played for the Browns son.  🙂 I fixed my previous post.  😕  

    Rated one of the top two OTs..   

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/orlando-brown?id=2559896

    @hoorta said:

    My bad Gipper, I meant Orlando Brown  Yup the guy who played for the Browns son.  🙂 I fixed my previous post.  😕  

    Rated one of the top two OTs..   

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/orlando-brown?id=2559896

    But could he fall to us at the top of round 2?

  • Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    Brady is 41

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Why would the Colts pick a QB @ 1 when it would cause a $hitstorm? Luck may as well pack up and leave right after the draft because drafting QB there would be nothing but a controversy and place more pressure than whats already on him. After a loss or ill timed INT and everyone would be calling for the new QB in town just like you guys do.

    Also, Luck are being paid big money and youre going to add another QB who will make top 5 rookie money.

    The Giants were 29th in rushing last year and the Colts were 24th. Both teams would take Barkley and say thank you Cleveland. The Colts had Al Gore who they will not resign and he will be 35 this May. The Colts are taking Barkley if the Browns dont.

    There is not 1 QB in this draft who is head and shoulders above the rest.

    Flaw in that thinking- report at the Combine, Giants committed to Eli, will consider a trade down. Assuming the Browns draft their QB @ #1, the Broncos and Jets (if either don't land Cousins) KNOW #2 and #3 are available for a QB. Moving up from #5 or  #6 a few spots won't be cost prohibitive, if they see "the guy" they gotta have there. Entirely possible QBs could come off the board with the first three picks, with New York and the Colts trading down. 

    Regarding the Colts, their OL is a mess, I'd think getting a bodyguard to keep Luck in one piece is a higher priority than a running back. 

    @hoorta said:

    Flaw in that thinking- report at the Combine, Giants committed to Eli, will consider a trade down. Assuming the Browns draft their QB @ #1, the Broncos and Jets (if either don't land Cousins) KNOW #2 and #3 are available for a QB. Moving up from #5 or  #6 a few spots won't be cost prohibitive, if they see "the guy" they gotta have there. Entirely possible QBs could come off the board with the first three picks, with New York and the Colts trading down. 

    Regarding the Colts, their OL is a mess, I'd think getting a bodyguard to keep Luck in one piece is a higher priority than a running back. 

    Makes no sense.

    The Giants are a win now franchise and need all kinds of help. Beckam will evidently not be in camp.They are just about guaranteed 2 starters staying put and not trading down. 

  • what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

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    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    @syd said:

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    I think it is just a never say never about anything situation.   If someone came knocking hard for any of the Browns picks...it behooves them to listen...even if they ultimately say no:

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    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    @syd said:

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Eli is going to be 37, I think. So, look to the Giants to draft a qb to develop. Geno Smith is behind him,

    and ...well, that isn't going to happen with Gino.

    Brady is 41

    @boo-fagley said:

    Brady is 41

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    @boo-fagley said:

    Makes no sense.

    The Giants are a win now franchise and need all kinds of help. Beckam will evidently not be in camp.They are just about guaranteed 2 starters staying put and not trading down. 

    As I was saying 🙂 Trade down out of #2 to #5 or #6, and get three starters for the price of two.  Barkley + their second round pick isn't turning them into a "win now" team. 9-7 at best and eke into the playoffs if it all goes perfect? OK. Super Bowl contender? LOL!!!  

    PS- take a look at the Giants 2018 opponents and tell me you see a winning record playing the Saints, Jags, Eagles twice, Falcons and Panthers. Split with the Cowboys and Redskins- that's 8 losses right there. 

  • @syd said:

    what i do not understand is this why would Dorsey say that he would be willing to trade the first overall pick I mean i can see the 4th but not the 1st 

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think it is just a never say never about anything situation.   If someone came knocking hard for any of the Browns picks...it behooves them to listen...even if they ultimately say no:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Brady is 41

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    @boo-fagley said:

    Makes no sense.

    The Giants are a win now franchise and need all kinds of help. Beckam will evidently not be in camp.They are just about guaranteed 2 starters staying put and not trading down. 

    As I was saying 🙂 Trade down out of #2 to #5 or #6, and get three starters for the price of two.  Barkley + their second round pick isn't turning them into a "win now" team. 9-7 at best and eke into the playoffs if it all goes perfect? OK. Super Bowl contender? LOL!!!  

    PS- take a look at the Giants 2018 opponents and tell me you see a winning record playing the Saints, Jags, Eagles twice, Falcons and Panthers. Split with the Cowboys and Redskins- that's 8 losses right there. 

    @hoorta said:

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

  • @hoorta said:

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

    @lionofbuddha said:

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

    just got a new cook book called How Not To Die and there are some damn good plant based recipes in there so as of now I'm cooking 2-3 times a week outta that book

    edit this is a edit I have also lost a few pounds since using that cook book

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    Always have your ears open. I would think every team is willing to hear about their picks. No fault in listening.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think it is just a never say never about anything situation.   If someone came knocking hard for any of the Browns picks...it behooves them to listen...even if they ultimately say no:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

    @syd said:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

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  • @syd said:

    and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

    ya it doe's make a Shmucking difference for a young possible franchise QB coming into the league for their psyche why in the Shmuck would you even want to take a goddamn chance on anything going wrong for the face of the franchise you tell that motherShmucker all along he was their guy (even if it's not true) so you do not Shmuck with their head 

    but for you it's all about the money bet you were a big manziel fan when we drafted him

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    I am sure a kid who got picked number one in the NFL draft will be deeply emotionally scarred by predraft smokescreen talk....

    ya it doe's make a Shmucking difference for a young possible franchise QB coming into the league for their psyche why in the Shmuck would you even want to take a goddamn chance on anything going wrong for the face of the franchise you tell that motherShmucker all along he was their guy (even if it's not true) so you do not Shmuck with their head 

    but for you it's all about the money bet you were a big manziel fan when we drafted him

    @syd said:

    ya it doe's make a Shmucking difference for a young possible franchise QB coming into the league for their psyche why in the Shmuck would you even want to take a goddamn chance on anything going wrong for the face of the franchise you tell that motherShmucker all along he was their guy (even if it's not true) so you do not Shmuck with their head 

    but for you it's all about the money bet you were a big manziel fan when we drafted him

    You think these kids don’t know how the game has to be played predraft? Kids are so savvy now that they are skipping bowl games to not risk draft status.

    Not quite sure where Manziel fits into your autistic screeching but no I wasn’t a fan at all.

  • @hoorta said:

     Heard on ESPN yesterday-  "Brady is a unicorn".   

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

    @lionofbuddha said:

    He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

    Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

    Our caveman ancestors would disagree with that notion.  

  • @boo-fagley said:

    You draft Barkley at # 1

    Then the QB of the future at # 4

    I see what you're saying, but if you're the BROWNS of ALL the teams in the league, you simply can't take a chance on not getting the QB you have rated the highest.  There's simply no excuse, when you have the #1 and the #4 picks, NOT to draft the guy you have ranked ahead of everybody.  We're the Browns, the team above all others that have been absolutely TORTURED by the QB position, and now we have the #1 pick, a chance to take whoever we want, and we need to grab the guy we like the best.  

    Think about what happens if we take Saquon first overall.  That leaves two picks before our #4.  Two chances for other teams to either draft the QB we like the best or make an insane trade with a team who wants to move up to draft one.  Does Saquon look like a crazy-awesome prospect?  Would he immediately help us score points?  Heck yes, but NOTHING matters until you get the QB position right, and NO team knows that more than the Browns!  We can pick whichever QB we want, and nothing can change that.  We have the first pick and we literally get to select who we WANT.  We don't get cute, we don't try to maximize our draft capital and trade down, we don't draft a RB #1, and if Saquon is available at #4, then we look at drafting him, but if it's me, I take Minkah Fitzpatrick all day.  Look at the RB's who were drafted after the first round last year and still did great.  Kareem Hunt?  Kamara?  Dorsey will find our stud RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, he's done it before.  

    Baker Mayfield should be drafted #1, and the ONLY other guy I'd be ok with is Rosen.  Oh, and if we draft Josh Allen, I will comb the planet to find an experimental "Total Recall" procedure and have the doctor implant memories of me being a Patriots fan because Allen looks like a complete JOKE to me.  He's Paxton Lynch 2.0, and I have NO IDEA why he's getting a pass on his horrible accuracy and terrible numbers.  

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I see what you're saying, but if you're the BROWNS of ALL the teams in the league, you simply can't take a chance on not getting the QB you have rated the highest.  There's simply no excuse, when you have the #1 and the #4 picks, NOT to draft the guy you have ranked ahead of everybody.  We're the Browns, the team above all others that have been absolutely TORTURED by the QB position, and now we have the #1 pick, a chance to take whoever we want, and we need to grab the guy we like the best.  

    Think about what happens if we take Saquon first overall.  That leaves two picks before our #4.  Two chances for other teams to either draft the QB we like the best or make an insane trade with a team who wants to move up to draft one.  Does Saquon look like a crazy-awesome prospect?  Would he immediately help us score points?  Heck yes, but NOTHING matters until you get the QB position right, and NO team knows that more than the Browns!  We can pick whichever QB we want, and nothing can change that.  We have the first pick and we literally get to select who we WANT.  We don't get cute, we don't try to maximize our draft capital and trade down, we don't draft a RB #1, and if Saquon is available at #4, then we look at drafting him, but if it's me, I take Minkah Fitzpatrick all day.  Look at the RB's who were drafted after the first round last year and still did great.  Kareem Hunt?  Kamara?  Dorsey will find our stud RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, he's done it before.  

    Baker Mayfield should be drafted #1, and the ONLY other guy I'd be ok with is Rosen.  Oh, and if we draft Josh Allen, I will comb the planet to find an experimental "Total Recall" procedure and have the doctor implant memories of me being a Patriots fan because Allen looks like a complete JOKE to me.  He's Paxton Lynch 2.0, and I have NO IDEA why he's getting a pass on his horrible accuracy and terrible numbers.  

    With RB's like Guice, Michel, Penny... I'd rather get the QB #1 and Fitzpatrick #4. If they don't take a QB #1, some other team can trade up like last year and take the QB the Browns might've been planning on being there at #4. 

    Yeah, Barkley can return kickoffs and so can Penny. Penny set the NCAA record. I don't think either will be doing that in the NFL much if they're the bell cow. 

  • @logicisforsquares said:

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    this is why i said you may be a manziel fan all about the bucks huh ?

  • @syd said:

    ya it doe's make a Shmucking difference for a young possible franchise QB coming into the league for their psyche why in the Shmuck would you even want to take a goddamn chance on anything going wrong for the face of the franchise you tell that motherShmucker all along he was their guy (even if it's not true) so you do not Shmuck with their head 

    but for you it's all about the money bet you were a big manziel fan when we drafted him

    You think these kids don’t know how the game has to be played predraft? Kids are so savvy now that they are skipping bowl games to not risk draft status.

    Not quite sure where Manziel fits into your autistic screeching but no I wasn’t a fan at all.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    You think these kids don’t know how the game has to be played predraft? Kids are so savvy now that they are skipping bowl games to not risk draft status.

    Not quite sure where Manziel fits into your autistic screeching but no I wasn’t a fan at all.

    Shmuck draft status what the hell doe's that even mean (except from a paycheck) i'm Shmucking talking about how a franchise views you how you are set up to succeed as a 1st round qb draft pick and you sure as hell do not start off the process saying that you are not enamored with or will be listening to offers for the 1st pick

    sorry you do not get it

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    You think these kids don’t know how the game has to be played predraft? Kids are so savvy now that they are skipping bowl games to not risk draft status.

    Not quite sure where Manziel fits into your autistic screeching but no I wasn’t a fan at all.

    Shmuck draft status what the hell doe's that even mean (except from a paycheck) i'm Shmucking talking about how a franchise views you how you are set up to succeed as a 1st round qb draft pick and you sure as hell do not start off the process saying that you are not enamored with or will be listening to offers for the 1st pick

    sorry you do not get it

    @syd said:

    Shmuck draft status what the hell doe's that even mean (except from a paycheck) i'm Shmucking talking about how a franchise views you how you are set up to succeed as a 1st round qb draft pick and you sure as hell do not start off the process saying that you are not enamored with or will be listening to offers for the 1st pick

    sorry you do not get it

    If a kid’s psyche can’t handle predraft talk (that happens every year) and needs to be constantly reassured  then playing professional sports may not be for them. Everyone of those kids has an agent who I am sure is giving them the rundown of how it goes. It is a business. 

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    @logicisforsquares said:

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    this is why i said you may be a manziel fan all about the bucks huh ?

    @syd said:

    this is why i said you may be a manziel fan all about the bucks huh ?

    I was inferring that the kid taken at one will be cut so deeply by pre-draft banter that they may have to resort to dabbing their watery eyes with 100 dollar bills.